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Payton never bought into the triangle. He was pathetic. Malone was hobbled badly for the first 4 games and did not play in the 5th. With the circus that were the Lakers that year, it's amazing they made the finals.
2004 Malone and Payton were not 1996 Malone and Payton...not even close. As for the Kobe shot, it's ignorant to think was the only player in that drama. Those two hated each other the past 5 years, but winning cures everything. When the Pistons started to win I just think all that frustration came to a boil.
Payton never bought into the triangle. He was pathetic. Malone was hobbled badly for the first 4 games and did not play in the 5th. With the circus that were the Lakers that year, it's amazing they made the finals.
Oh, so lets see...
Because they were past their primes, you can't use the argument that that team was stacked.
How come I have repeatedly seen the argument by a few select Laker fans (not saying you) that Duncan's team was stacked in '03 because he had Parker and Ginobili.
The shoe is on the other foot, and that foot is kicking your ass.
who said that?
For everyone saying Vegas has the heat winning it all... Vegas isn't about statistical analysis or PER or blah blah blah.. it's about where the betters are betting.. that's the way odds are made.
When discussing this exact same topic, a few weeks ago
Duncan had a load of help in '03 because of how the players ended up playing in their primes.
lol fail, u lakerfans like 2 praise malone n payton in the spurs/wolves series that year against really good players, then u downplay them 2 against the pistons
talk about hypocrisy
I thought Malone got hurt in WCF but either way no excuses Kobe and the Lakers got beat ...
BTW that years along with 2002 were the tiest Lakers seasons from a team harmony stand-point and though Kobe was a part of it it was not all his blame either ...
Yeah, Drexler retired early because he hated Barkley
Only lakers fans could turn a heat topic into a duncan is topic
The Skunker compels us, Aussie.
tee, hee.
Barkley everywhere.
Charles Barkley does (not) have a gambling problem
By Henry Abbott
Charles Barkley tells GQ (a little PG-13):
Yeah, I like to gamble. And I'm going to keep gambling. And I just have to tell people, if they don't like it, they can kiss my a--. F--- 'em. You know, I quit gambling for a while. But then I was like, 'Why am I quitting gambling? I don't have a problem.'"
When it comes to gambling, Barkley has wrestled with the word "problem." In a May 2006 ESPN report he said:
Barkley said Wednesday on ESPN that he has lost "probably $10 million" gambling, adding, "It is a problem for me."
"My agent has really worked with me to try to get it where I can go and gamble and have fun," he said. "That's easier said than done.
"Do I have a gambling problem? Yeah, I do have a gambling problem but I don't consider it a problem because I can afford to gamble. It's just a stupid habit that I've got to get under control, because it's just not a good thing to be broke after all of these years," he added.
Barkley told ESPN that he's working to solve the problem.
"I gamble too much, I gamble for too much money," he said. "And it's something I have to address ... I am addressing it, that would be the best way to explain it."
Just to recap:
* "I don't have a problem."
* "It is a problem for me."
* "I do have a gambling problem."
* "I don't consider it a problem."
He's exactly right: It's a free country. It's none of our business how he spends his money. He's not asking for any handouts.
I'm sure we almost all follow his line of reasoning there.
But am I convinced he's in control of how he spends his time and money? No. Not at all.
LMAO the 2004 Lakers
great point
Most recent epic failures in the last 10 years:
- 2004 Lakers (Malone+Shaq+Kobe+Payton = failure)
- 2006 Mavericks (backdoor finals sweep)
- 2007 Mavericks (60+ wins = 1st round failure)
- 2008 Lakers (favorites by a mile, end up with nothing LOL Bynum)
- 2011 Heat??
To be fair Barkley was 33 when he went to the Rockets to play with Hakeem and Drexler (who were also past their primes at 34 years of age). After Drexler retired at the end of '98 the Rockets got Pippen as a free agent that year. Barkley never really played with any other superstar while in his prime so it's not really the same as what Lebron, Wade, and Bosh are doing.
Keys to Beating the Heat
1. Protect the Ball
2. Clog the Paint.
3. Double team Lebron and Wade when they have the ball.
The 2004 Lakers even with Malone and Payton not in their primes should have won the NBA championship with that roster but failed to. The reason was Kobe, he kept taking shot after shot and it took the rest of the team out of the game and the team wasn't playing the team ball it takes to win the whole thing. In the NBA finals vs the Pistons they were an amazing defensive team and the Lakers got it good, they self destructed but all the credit goes to Detroit's defense. Of course that helped Kobe Bryant become more of a team player and he now takes shots in the flow of the game rather than force the issue, which against a team like the 2004 Detroit Pistons is a bad idea.
I clearly remember Game 4 especially, Shaq having missed like 2 shots the whole game and snaring boards and in beast mode, yet Kobe still jacking up contested looks.
That's Kobe
No surprise
2010 Spurs - swepted by the lowly Phoenix Suns amid "championship aspirations"
2009 Spurs - Annihilated by the lowly Dallas Mavericks in the 1st round
Yup
Too bad Stern doesnt help us
lol butthurt because he mentioned the Lakers
Unless you can find a post where I said as much, I just can't take you seriously...sorry bro, no hard feelings.
Double teaming one only leaves the other open. Trying to hard to shut down Wade or James also means you're leaving room for Bosh to have a big game.
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