Last game Finals stats of some all-time great players

[history2b]

I have to agree with Midnightpulp pn that one

Most of the time you are harassing me for no reason, but when I'm criticizing someone for bashing your beloved Lakers, all of sudden you are on my side

GTFO

Harassing you? lol.

I believe it's your dumbass following me around not the other way around. Can't take the heat then it would be best to just stay out of the kitchen altogether.

[lefty]

Harassing you? lol.

I believe it's your dumbass following me around not the other way around. Can't take the heat then it would be best to just stay out of the kitchen altogether.

Whatever helps you sleep better

But still, GTFO

[history2b]

Then don't bother posting.

All you Kobe fanboys (yourself, Jam) are turning a simple presentation of stats into something it isn't.

No I'll post because I'm pointing out the transparency of the op.

Exposing you how your chimp brain works is good enough for me.

[history2b]

Whatever helps you sleep better

But still, GTFO

No thanks. I'll continue to post but thanks.

[lefty]

No thanks. I'll continue to post but thanks.

Then GTFI

[midnightpulp]

Are you kidding? 35% FGs is terrible. A five-percent drop is pretty big. As you note, all those elite players saw their FG% drop -- not surprising given fatigue and facing elite defenses playing as hard as they can.

But it's impossible to spin 35% FGs as anything but bad.

Despite that -- Jamstone is absolutely correct. Game 3s are a really big deal and as it so happens Kobe's been pretty great in those games.

Not that bad when you factor in the gravity of the situation. A 5% drop isn't too damaging, comparatively speaking.

And I think Jam overrates Game 3. Many times the team with home court will be up 2-0 and Game 3 will ostensibly be a "throw away" game.

Now if Jam tweaked his argument and qualified it as: "Game 3 when the teams are tied 1-1," then that is indeed a very pivotal game.

[midnightpulp]

No I'll post because I'm pointing out the transparency of the op.

Exposing you how your chimp brain works is good enough for me.

The only thing you exposed is your figurative penis with the hope that Kobe may one day give it a suck.

You would be nowhere to be found if this comparison didn't involve Kobe, or if Kobe came out the best.

But keep trying to hide your motives under a veil of self-righteousness.

[j.dizzle]

LOL pulp getting all angry because Jam decided to do some research also.

[midnightpulp]

LOL pulp getting all angry because Jam decided to do some research also.

Where did I get angry, exactly?

[history2b]

The only thing you exposed is your figurative penis with the hope that Kobe may one day give it a suck.

You would be nowhere to found if this comparison didn't involve Kobe, or if Kobe came out the best.

But keep trying to hide your motives under a veil of self-righteousness.

Never once made a post or remark about Kobe in this entire thread in reference to your stats, lol.

All I did was point out that you are a transparent troll who uses faulty logic and reduces the game down in order to make troll points.

Your insistence on what you believe is my inspiration reveals your true aspiration of the thread. Glass is less transparent.

[midnightpulp]

Never once made a post or remark about Kobe in this entire thread in reference to your stats, lol.

All I did was point out that you are a transparent troll who uses faulty logic and reduces the game down in order to make troll points.

Your insistence on what you believe is my inspiration reveals your true aspiration of the thread. Glass is less transparent.

You know the saying, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..."

And we go all the way back to the ESPN boards with this. Everyone who knows you realizes the love affair you have with Kobe.

[hater]

I got bored too. So I looked at performances of game 3 of the NBA Finals. You see, the last game of the Finals can be deceiving. Take for example if it's a game 4 where one team clearly is better than the other and is up 3-0 in the Finals. Do you take much from the inevitable game 4 stats of players on either team? Now game 3 is almost always pivotal in the Finals. The team is either up 2 games and can drive the final nail in the coffin (generally on the road). Or the team is down 2 games and it's a must-win situation for the team that is down. Or it's 1-1 with a change of venue and game 3 will go a long way in deciding the course of the series. Rather the last game of the series where sometimes the game doesn't have the juice or pressure you might think because of how the rest of the series went, game 3 always has that juice.

That said, let's look at game 3 stats of players in the NBA Finals.

Kobe Bryant 6 games (was injured for game 3 of the 2000 NBA Finals)

29.2 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 4.2 APG, 1.3 SPG, 45.7% FG

Tim Duncan 4 games

17.3 PPG, 11.8 RPG, 4.0 APG, 1.8 BPG, 41.0% FG

Michael Jordan 6 games

30.8 PPG, 5.7 RPG, 5.3 APG, 2.2 SPG, 44.7% FG

Discuss more.

great point. I was thinking the same but IMHO the most important games in a series are in this order:
game 7
game 5
game 2
game 1
game 3
game 4

but of course depending on the circunstance. You'd have to look at every individual series and choose the 2 or 3 most important games of the series.

also another thing to note. I wanna see the performance in games when the player's team is down in the series
1 game down
2 games down
3 games down

[history2b]

You know the saying, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..."

And we go all the way back to the ESPN boards with this. Everyone who knows you realizes the love affair you have with Kobe.

Says a troll who would literally lick Duncan's acehole clean after every dump he takes.... can't take your interpretation any more serious than your ability to understand the game of basketball.

[midnightpulp]

Says a troll who would literally lick Duncan's acehole clean after every dump he takes.... can't take your interpretation any more serious than your ability to understand the game of basketball.

fail for calling an asshole an "acehole."

[MiamiHeat]

JoeJam is full of .

Do the numbers again. He posted incorrect numbers. I just checked them.

Huge Laker/Kobe sucker who types too much.

[midnightpulp]

And for Jam:

(you know I respect you as a poster, so consider any light smack I throw your way, calling you a "Kobe fanboy," etc, as tongue-in-cheek).

Back to your Game 3 argument. Only two Game 3's Kobe played in could really be called, "pivotal." In '04, tied 1-1 headed to the Palace to play your boys, and this past year against the Celtics. Sure, every game in the Finals is "pivotal," but I just don't feel it's quite up there in importance if your team is up 2-0, or even when you're down 0-2).

Kobe's combined stats in those games (FG and PPG, don't feel like adding up the other stats):

20ppg on .326% shooting.

[mindcrime]

Are you kidding? 35% FGs is terrible. A five-percent drop is pretty big. As you note, all those elite players saw their FG% drop -- not surprising given fatigue and facing elite defenses playing as hard as they can.

But it's impossible to spin 35% FGs as anything but bad.

Despite that -- Jamstone is absolutely correct. Game 3s are a really big deal and as it so happens Kobe's been pretty great in those games.

Excluding game 3 of the 2004 finals of course.

4/13 .308FG% 3RB 5AST 11PTS (played 45 minutes)

All of which led to a 88 - 68 ass pounding delivered by the Pistons.

[MiamiHeat]

And for Jam:

(you know I respect you as a poster, so consider any light smack I throw your way, calling you a "Kobe fanboy," etc, as tongue-in-cheek).

no, that. I don't respect him.

He's a -LIAR- and he has shown he is NOT CAPABLE of posting without bias. His posts have agendas in them and he twists up, as evident in this thread.

[midnightpulp]

Oops. Forgot the 01 series against Philly. The Lakers were tied 1-1 going into game 3.

Adjusted:

3 games: 24ppg on 36% shooting.

[MiamiHeat]

midnight, check your PMs

[JamStone]

JoeJam is full of .

Do the numbers again. He posted incorrect numbers. I just checked them.

Huge Laker/Kobe sucker who types too much.

Lol "JoeJam"

[MiamiHeat]

Lol "JoeJam"

having to lie to make an argument

you are ing FAIL

[JamStone]

having to lie to make an argument

you are ing FAIL

Go ahead and post the stats.

Perhaps you miscalculated. Your anger and rage could have resulted in mistakes.

[MiamiHeat]

Go ahead and post the stats.

Perhaps you miscalculated. Your anger and rage could have resulted in mistakes.

You lowered Jordan's FG% and raised Kobe's FG%, you little sucker.


I didn't check the PPG, rebs, steals, maybe someone should check if you tampered with those too.

Nothing you type can be taken seriously.

[DeadlyDynasty]

You lowered Jordan's FG% and raised Kobe's FG%, you little sucker.


I didn't check the PPG, rebs, steals, maybe someone should check if you tampered with those too.

Nothing you type can be taken seriously.