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Keep it up = shoot it when you have the shot
This is the problem that most fans have. I know that you don't mean "keep it up" as Barry producing the same numbers as he did last game, but most fans have that assumption. They see that game and say, see Barry should be averaging 20 ppg. They heard all this talk about Barry being the best FA pickup and assume he will put up crazy numbers all the time. I bet he won't put up crazy numbers next game, but the contribution he will have is that no way do the Suns drop very far away with him. So that thins things out for Duncan. The problem is that once he doesn't put another 20 point game, most of the fans on this site will rip him for being incompetent and that he should be traded. Just remember Barry = 4th option.
Last edited by benjirh; 05-23-2005 at 10:08 AM. Reason: changed a word
Keep it up = shoot it when you have the shot
Keep it up = shoot it when you have the shot and it makes sense.
ive said all season, any shot by Brent Barry is a good shot.shoot it when you have the shot and it makes sense.
Every shot he shoots makes sense in my mind.
KEEP THE AGRESSIVENESS AND JACKIN UP SHOTS!!!!
If you miss some early KEEP SHOOTIN!!!
LMBO!!!!! That is a classic Gerry!You have to love timvp patting himself on the back when Barry has a bad game and saying he was right all along, then patting himself on the back a couple of days later when Barry has an incredible game and saying he was right all along.
Let me guess, you did support Brent Barry, before you rooted against him?
Having the shot by definition makes sense. Of course you will have the odd exception for clock management, etc. -- note that didn't stop Horry and Manu yesterday, however -- but open shots are open shots, and I'm completely comfortable with Barry's taking two 30 footers in 37 seconds when he's got room.
I don't completely disagree with you. What I am saying is that against the suns it is good to take as much time off the clock as possible and slow down the game. No need to just toss up a shot with 17 secs. left just cause the defender isn't right on you. Which I don't see him doing. I just don't want him to start rushing his offense.
hmm...I was excited to finally see Barry kicking ass but does it take poor perimeter defense for Barry to light it up? assuming we end up matching up against Detroit do you expect him to get the same kind of looks?
Yes
Given his history, especially this season, I don't think that's possible. I simply trust the guy's shot. If we won a championship with Jack shooting at the rate and percentage he did -- imagine what we could do with Barry. The shots have been there -- definitely not as much against Seattle but definitely more now. And Barry is doing what he should do -- and the results speak for themselves.I just don't want him to start rushing his offense.
To the extent we saw yesterday, yes. I would expect fewer open looks against Detroit as they can more effectively single-cover Duncan -- though he'll be covered by Rip and might be able to get free if he keeps moving.I was excited to finally see Barry kicking ass but does it take poor perimeter defense for Barry to light it up?
Sorry I will elaborate. I think Prince is a great defensive player, but he won't usually guard Barry. Hamilton is a good defender but not a shutdown perimeter defender. So I think he will get shots. I don't see him scoring 20, but there are times against every team that players get open looks. Even players have open looks against the spurs.
Completely agree. Just out of curiosity, didn't you rip Barry earlier this year? Not trying to start anything, I just thought you were on the "trade Barry" side.
I mostly ripped Barry for passing up open shots, and I always included my opinion that he'd improve. I do appreciate the other things he does on the court, but it's particularly galling to me to see him deny his own shooting talent when it's exactly what this team needed and needs.
I never entertained any thoughts of trading Barry before this season's deadline. In March or April I floated the idea of trading him for a more aggressive shooter in the offseason if he didn't come around.
My bad. I was just curious and surprised with your comments.
I think you'll find the "Anti-Barry" crowd has just been more frustrated than hateful this season. Personally, my expectations for Brent were too high in some areas.
As I announced last week, I have officially given up on Brent. I don't "hate" the guy at all. I've never been against him making a contribution, which I expect to be nothing more than what he did @SEA, and he hasn't done that.
His situation is most unhappy and tragic, imo. His flopped games as a Spur still vastly outweigh his contributions. He can't even make up that deficit by mid-June. That will have to wait until next season.
Of course, any contribution he can make in these playoffs, such as yesterday, is wildly welcome. And I couldn't be happier for the guy.
Bomb Brent Bomb
Go Spurs Go
Not the Suns best shot by far. I only hope we see the Suns best shot before it is over.
I think that was close to the Spurs best shot.
If Barry can keep it up the Spurs will be in good shape to get to the finals. Those two threes he hit were huge.
I'm still interested to see how he will play next year after a full season and offseason of learning Spurs Basketball. Right now, I doubt there's much Barry could be traded for anyway.
Brent does much better when he turns up the intensity knob. The indicators for me are two-fold.
1: When Barry actually tries to score in the middle...those 10-15 footers.
2: When Barry's posture on his 3 Pt. attempts is straight-up and not angling slightly back, he has upped his intensity.
I agree, that was not Phoenix' best shot at all. I knew this would be a win form SA. Phoenix had a huge hangover from Dallas series.
SA has to play just as good to win on Tuesday night.
I was thinking yesterday or Game 5 was going to be the road win.
Tomorrow I already had down as a loss.
"the Spurs best shot."
Hardly. Manu didn't really get his. Nazr can do better, and I didn't feel any real defensive intensity from the Spurs.
The Spurs big risk is that they go absolutely stone cold on offense.
ie, only the Spurs can beat themselves in a 7-game series vs Suns. The Suns don't have the offensve/defensive balance to prevail.
The Spurs also improved to 34-2 when scoring at least 100; they've done it in six of their nine playoff wins. Phoenix is not going to rattle San Antonio like it did Dallas, if for no other reason than the Spurs' basketball IQ is about 100 points higher.
TONY PARKER: Barry came up huge. Two days ago after we won against Seattle he was a little bit down and I talked to him. I told him it's a little bit like Robert last year when he tried so hard to beat the Lakers and I thought Brent did the same thing, he tried too hard. He was not himself. And I told him stay with us, keep shooting you are going to have a huge series against Phoenix because they are going to score a lot of points so we're going to need our bench.
I still think he could have made three layups where he went hard to the basket, got there, and instead made some dangerous passes out to the arc. He was right there and I doubt the defender coming from the weak side could have blocked without fouling. It wasn't fear, because he went in strong. I think he's just being too deferent to our other go-to guys.
But he had a great game overall and if anyone made a breakout difference that gave us a road win and home court advantage, Barry is the one. We expect those great games from Manu, TD and TP. Having one from our 'missing piece' of the puzzle is simply great news.
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