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    I for one welcome our new Orange Speaker...

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    The real good news is that I can stomach a 'state of the union' address now because I don't have to see that smiling and clapping in the background everytime Obama takes a shot at the republicans.
    Yeah, it will be funnier seeing that dip make sour faces when Obama does it now.

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    The real good news is that I can stomach a 'state of the union' address now because I don't have to see that smiling and clapping in the background everytime Obama takes a shot at the republicans.
    If the press conference he gave this morning is any indication I can't stomach watching Obama speak with or without anyone else being around. This mfer simply doesn't get it and god damn we progressives were wrong about this guy.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I wasn't sure which thread to post this in because it literally could go in many but it conveys a thought I really really believe is true and shows why I don't think Pelosi was terrible.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...about-process/

    Nobody Cares About Process
    Urk. I just gave up on the presidential press conference. When Obama declared that Americans rejected Democrats in part because “We were in such a hurry to get things done that we didn’t change how things got done,” I checked out.

    Nobody cares about this stuff — they care about results. Nobody really cares about earmarks; they’re just code for spending less (less on somebody else, of course, not me). Nobody cares about civility and bipartisanship, which in practice are code for Democrats giving in to Republican demands. Nobody cares about parliamentary maneuvers: we can argue about the role of health reform in the election, but I bet not one voter in 50 knows or cares that it was passed using reconciliation (as were the sacred Bush tax cuts we must, must retain).

    If Obama had used fancy footwork and 2 AM sessions to pass a big public works program, and this program had brought unemployment down, Republicans would be screaming about the process — and Democrats would have comfortably held control of Congress. Remember the voter backlash against the way Medicare drug benefits were passed? Neither do I.

    Oh, by the way — nobody cares about the deficit, either.

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    Yeah, it will be funnier seeing that dip make sour faces when Obama does it now.
    Wanna vbookie bet that those comments happen far less often from here on out?


    To be honest, this might make me dislike Obama a little less. I was always of the opinion that one party controlling everything was a bad idea so at least now we have some checks on everything.


    However, the funny thing really is that it doesn't really matter which party is in control, neither of them will do the right thing for our country and I think they've both proven that over the past few decades.

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    The democrats are pussies. They don't have all the answers but the good they could accomplish never gets done because they're ing spineless unlike the GOP. The GOP knows how to get done. Sadly its that usually comes back to us but who the likes the spineless dip more than the guy who can actually go out and get what he wants done DONE.

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    Thats complete and utter bull , btw. If you're a progressive and you hate Nancy Pelosi then you're out of your mind. Any hope you ever had of getting actual progressive legislation passed was through her running of the House?

    You know why the GOP hates Pelosi so much? She ran the House like a GOP speaker would. She got DONE. If Harry Reid was half as effective as her we'd have actual health care legislation and would have gotten a much better Stimulus Bill.

    I could give two s if she congratulates the GOP. She did her job as speaker and she did it well.


    Newsflash. America is not predominantly progressive (i.e. leftist).

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    Did I say it was?

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    Yeah - you want to know why they want to nationalize the regulations? Take one big mfering hint from my posts.
    BS. They want to nationalize regulations so they only need 1 policy form, instead of 30-40 policy forms with a few hundred endorsement variants (trust me, I know how much of a pain in the ass they are and have a good idea how much they cost to maintain).

    State by state regulation of insurance is asinine, and the insurance companies realize that nationalizing it is going to make many more markets more strict than it will loosen the others.

    They don't like the regulations in place in certain states so instead they want to get around them. How about we let the people Montana decide what they want from their policies and we let the people in Texas do the same instead of letting places with high populations run roughshod over smaller states.

    I'm sorry - isn't the GOP supposed to be in favor of states rights? Except when big insurance can benefit, right?
    Blue Cross offers policies across the country, but has to maintain several child companies to deal with insurance regulations in several states. Same with just about every Big Insurance company.

    Big insurance is pretty much the definition of interstate commerce, so the US has cons utional claim to regulate. Plus, I'd love to get rid of all those dumb ass child companies that insurance companies use to play a s game with profits and loss in the US corporate "magic accounting" scheme.

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    If the press conference he gave this morning is any indication I can't stomach watching Obama speak with or without anyone else being around. This mfer simply doesn't get it and god damn we progressives were wrong about this guy.
    Brilliant speech, Barack! Reach out to those who will never like your black ass and alienate everyone who does/once did.

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    The democrats are pussies. They don't have all the answers but the good they could accomplish never gets done because they're ing spineless unlike the GOP. The GOP knows how to get done. Sadly its that usually comes back to us but who the likes the spineless dip more than the guy who can actually go out and get what he wants done DONE.
    That's because the democrats allow for dissenting opinions. If you don't vote the way of the GOP nearly every time, in unison, you are ostracized. The reason the GOP gets done is because the entire party is instructed to go one way with no room for anything other than what they're told to support, with a few notable exceptions.

    Democrats vote far left, middle left, center left, and center right. When these opinions clash, the republicans come in and just vote it down unanimously, without any individual thought or concern. They're like the Borg of politics.

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    "consensus in the house"

    Dems gave lots of concessions, to the point of gutting, on health care and financial reform, and got absolutely nothing back.

    Now the Repugs will continue to gut and defund the rule-writing on health care and financial reform, and The American People will continue to be fleeced.

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    Best one I heard today. Lady said, when Boehner
    assigns Pelosi to the closet where she kept her brooms,
    then she will know the Republicans are serious about
    setting thing straight........

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    The real good news is that I can stomach a 'state of the union' address now because I don't have to see that smiling and clapping in the background everytime Obama takes a shot at the republicans.




    ........and that (see bold) she was.

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    Ding Dong the witch is dead

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    She should man up and congratulate the GOP.. and then fade away..Nice job Nancy you almost singlehandidly handed the Congress to the GOP,,
    Nah, it took her and Obama.

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