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    So lets just agree to try to stop both parties from doing it.
    Uh... were we opposed to such an arrangement before we made our agreement?

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    "stop both parties from doing it."

    There is NO EVIDENCE of voter fraud, NONE, NADA, and dubya's state AGs were told to frame cases, and those who didn't, were fired.

    Dem voter fraud is just another VRWC lie to rouse the stupid rabble.

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...president.html

    This was a well-publicized event Chump. Don't go full anal re and say 'they only tried to register Mickey Mouse, he didn't actually vote.' While the average election worker might catch 'Mickey Mouse' walking into the site, they will miss the more realistic 'William Ackerson, Samantha Harker,' etc. In 2008, more people in Indianapolis were registered to vote than were eligible to vote.

    http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/...s-bloated.html

    Requiring voter photo ID would help to discourage some voter fraud. Follow the bouncing ball.
    What voter fraud?

    Really, just give me some do ented cases of voter fraud to prove to us all what a huge problem this is.

    And no, it's pretty obvious the faux Mickey Mouse and the Dallas Cowboys did not vote. In most cases of the cases cited, it was ACORN itself that flagged those types of registrations as possibly fraudulent, which officials then followed up on them. ACORN was required by law to turn in ALL the registrations, even the ones they thought were fraudulent.

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    http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/...s-bloated.html

    Requiring voter photo ID would help to discourage some voter fraud. Follow the bouncing ball.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-still-voting/

    http://www.oregoncatalyst.com/index....raud-case.html

    The fact that more people were registered to vote than were eligible means that some of those names should not have been on the list, and yet were successfully registered. What would prevent those who registered them from going in an voting with those names? How do you track and prove voter fraud in those instances? In places where the dead vote it's obvious, and the fact that more people are registering to vote than are eligible demonstrates the potential for fraud. Why don't you explain why requiring a photo ID is a bad idea?

    The next case wouldn't really be prevented by a photo ID requirement at the polls (fraud using absentee ballots) but further demonstrates the need to guard against voter fraud.
    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/20...-case-goes-lab

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    OK, there was one case of a proven vote of a dead person who wasn't taken off the rolls. Why not take dead people off the rolls? Problem solved in that case.

    Alleged 16 more votes from dead people. Take dead people off the rolls.

    The last was a case that didn't happen at the polls at all, so no ID law would have helped.

    I was hoping for votes resulting from fraudulent registrations like those you brought up in the first place. Where would these cards be mailed to? Disneyland and Cowboy Stadium don't seem to be in the voting precincts involved.

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    OK, there was one case of a proven vote of a dead person who wasn't taken off the rolls. Why not take dead people off the rolls? Problem solved in that case.
    Why not require voter photo ID? Problem solved in that case, and the following case...

    Alleged 16 more votes from dead people. Take dead people off the rolls.
    The last was a case that didn't happen at the polls at all, so no ID law would have helped.
    The next case wouldn't really be prevented by a photo ID requirement at the polls (fraud using absentee ballots) but further demonstrates the need to guard against voter fraud.
    I was hoping for votes resulting from fraudulent registrations like those you brought up in the first place. Where would these cards be mailed to? Disneyland and Cowboy Stadium don't seem to be in the voting precincts involved.
    Don't go full anal re and say 'they only tried to register Mickey Mouse, he didn't actually vote.' While the average election worker might catch 'Mickey Mouse' walking into the site, they will miss the more realistic 'William Ackerson, Samantha Harker,' etc. In 2008, more people in Indianapolis were registered to vote than were eligible to vote.

    http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/...s-bloated.html

    Requiring voter photo ID would help to discourage some voter fraud. Follow the bouncing ball.

    I told you not to go full anal re . Mickey Mouse was a humorous example of a fraudulent registration. Stop your obsession with Mickey Mouse, I already mentioned earlier in the thread that specific name would have most likely been prevented from voting anyway.

    I gave you the example of Indianapolis, more people registered to vote than were eligible to vote. You asked for examples of voter fraud. I gave them to you.

    If someone has already successfully registered an ineligible name (lets say a realistic one, like 'Sarah Henderson'), what would prevent them from walking into the polling place and voting with it?

    What plausible harm can asking for photo ID do? We've seen evidence (as if we needed to) that people do try to abuse the system in various ways. We've seen evidence that more people were registered to vote in a city than were eligible to vote. Why not require photo ID to help prevent some forms of voter fraud? What is the real harm?

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    Why not require voter photo ID? Problem solved in that case, and the following case...
    I'm not necessarily against the law. I just don't think voter fraud is that big a deal.

    Thanks for proving that to be true.

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    "Why not require voter photo ID"

    a lot of (poor) people (the Repug target of photo ID requirement) don't have passports nor driver licenses. You gonna pay for these people to have verified photo IDs made? Like a national iden y card?

    Photo ID is all rabble rousing and campaigning to solve non-problems

    How about a photo ID requirement being offset by redrawing all districts back to geographic sense to nullify gerrymandering? Any Repugs for that?

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    "Why not require voter photo ID"

    a lot of (poor) people (the Repug target of photo ID requirement) don't have passports nor driver licenses. You gonna pay for these people to have verified photo IDs made? Like a national iden y card?

    Photo ID is all rabble rousing and campaigning to solve non-problems

    How about a photo ID requirement being offset by redrawing all districts back to geographic sense to nullify gerrymandering? Any Repugs for that?
    Really? Alot?

    How many don't have driver's licenses? Photo ID's? Be specific.

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    Temporarily incapacitated?

    Too weak/mentally off-kilter to collect own mail or to read/understand it once collected? Cannot renew under his/her own power?

    Too unsupported/uncared for by relatively worthless progeny and friends?







    (Just asking. It happens sometimes.)

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    There plenty of data that there is no voter fraud, and no data that there is voter fraud. It's simple not an issue. It's Repug rabble rousing, and the ignorant rabble love to be roused.

    otoh, there is plenty of data of Repug election stealing (OH 2004), corruption, dirty tricks, intimidation of blacks and browns.

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