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Am I alone in believing that Bill Walton did too much meth or crack in the 70's?
While I think it SHOULD result in a tech, I don't think the rules allow for that. Mainly because it's a delay of game. It's really the same as stepping over the line during an imbound, except Horry didn't really have the ball yet.
Am I alone in believing that Bill Walton did too much meth or crack in the 70's?
If it was the second delay of game....it would have been a tech but I think it was the first.
no!Am I alone in believing that Bill Walton did too much meth or crack in the 70's?
Good, because I can't figure out what ESPN/ABC see in him. Not only is he Mr. Obvious, but half the time nobody knows what in the he's talking about. How did he even have offspring?!?!
Agree completely. You guys got totally jobbed on that call. Salvatore is an idiot. What more can one say?
BTW, Walton is all an act and I think he's pretty damn funny. He's the king of hyperbole and some really funny comes out of his mouth. In between all the banter though, he'll insert some really insightful nuggets of basketball commentary. I think he's great.
I think you're way underating your team. I think they have a great future. Amare will learn form this season that making an impact on the defensive end is as importatn as making an impact on the offensive end and he's capable of being a very good defensive player. Losing Johnson would be unfortunate, should have not picked up Q and held onto JJ. But if they can somehow land a good true center, a Dalembert type, and D'Antoni learns that D counts too and relying heavily on tranisition play won't do it against the best teams in the playoffs, the Suns will be a true championship contender.
Anyone still have the url for that Sonics fan who ran the funny game blog?
The speculation on the Q signing is all in hindsight. He's been an amzing player this year (lead the league in 3pt makes and attempts) and really come up in the clutch with rebounds and defensive stops. The reason he was signed, though, was because nobody really knew what to think about JJ. Last season he looked brilliant at points and lost at others. The Suns could have re-signed him fairly cheap, but didn't want to be stuck with the lost version. Of course JJ took exception and broke out. Hopefully the Players and Owners can come to a new collective bargaining agreement and extend the salary cap while getting rid of the luxury tax. If that happens, the Suns have the flexibility to get both Johnson and Stoudemire signed to new contracts.
But again, it's a long season. Season's like these don't come around very often--and the Suns have never been good and keeping teams together.
Actually the replay, w/ sound, shows that the foul was before the shot. The shot. The tieup, contact, and tech all happened after the whistle! The replay on TV didnt have sound, but if you taped it and played it back, you can hear the whistle blow on the handcheck before all the other stuff.
I know if he touches the ball its a delay of game, but if he made contact with Horry (which I couldnt really tell) is it still a dealay of game? Or a tech?
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No, I watched the replay on ESPN last night. Stoudemire was extending his right arm to jump over Horry (which is why Horry just grabbed his arms and held them down). It was a shooting foul.
I don't know, however, Nash was out of bounds trying to come in bounds. If he was in bounds going out of bounds to touch Horry that would have been different.
On the other hand, we see players touch a player on the inbound pass to intentionally draw a delay of game all the time. This is good if you as the defender want to see the offensive set and catch any screens, etc. They don't call a tech for that, just a delay of game.
If you go by what the relay looked like then yes it was a shooting foul, but the whistle was blown before he went up for the shot, as he was trying to dribble past Horry. Thats when the foul was. All the other stuff happened after the foul. You gotta LISTEN to the play to hear when the whistle was blown.
BTW, what a vetren move by Horry to "draw" the tech!!
I hear what you're saying, but in today's NBA, even that's considered continuation.
HORRY IS A BAS ! Don't get me started on him.
It was originally called a delay of game -- which I thought at the time would have resulted in a tech because it was in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter -- and delay of games in that cir stance result in a tech whether it's the second one of the game or not.
But today I looked in the rule book and that last two minute rule only applies on certain delay of game calls.
Section II--Delay-of-Game
a. A delay-of-game shall be called for:
(1) Preventing the ball from being promptly put into play.
(2) Interfering with the ball after a successful field goal.
(3) Failing to immediately pass the ball to the nearest official when a per-sonal foul or violation is assessed.
(4) Touching the ball before the throw-in has been released.
(5) A defender crossing the boundary line prior to the ball being released on a throw-in.
(6) A team preventing play from commencing at any time.
(7) Any player, coach or trainer interfering with a ball which has crossed the boundary line (Rule 8--Section II--f).
PENALTY: The first offense is a warning. A technical foul shall be assessed with each successive offense and charged to the team. An announcement will be made by the public address announcer. The 24-second clock shall remain the same or reset to 14, whichever is greater, if the violation is assessed against the defensive team. The offensive team shall be awarded a new 8 seconds to advance the ball if it is in the backcourt. If repeated acts become a travesty, the head coach shall be noti-fied that he is being held responsible.
EXCEPTION (5): In the last two minutes of the fourth period and/or any over-time period, a technical foul will be assessed if the defender crosses or breaks the plane of the boundary line prior to the ball being released on a throw-in.
And that's the difference. Nash was already out of bounds trying to get back in bounds when he makes contact.
I know; that's what I'm saying.
My post was to explain that there shouldn't have been a tech (even though at first I too thought there should have been).
Yeah, I got that...um, just backing you up.
But I was screaming, along with the Spurs players, for the tech at the time.
And I'm glad you were wrong.
But I was screaming, along with the Spurs players, for the tech at the time.
Don't know what the elephant means, but thought it was appropriate.
Yep. I've got the game Tivo'd and studied the replay many times. The original whistle comes ON THE FLOOR as Amare is trying to go around Horry. Horry reaches in as Amare tries to go around and the whistle blows. Amare takes two more steps after the whistle and then goes up for a shot. He wasn't in the act of shooting. Find someone with the game tape and see for yourself.
It was NOT a shooting foul.
No it was not a shooting foul. But it was BS for Horry to foul him again after the whistle then flop for a tech on Stoudemire. How does Horry always get away with that crap in the playoffs? Don't these guys watch NBA games for a living?
Total BS basketball or savy veteran move, same thing from two sides. Take your pick.
No its not BS, cuz IF they decide to give him continuation (which they shouldnt have, but you never know) Horry doesnt want him to get a 3 point play oppurtunity. Its not BS, it happens ALL the time!!!
And about the "flop" you may call it a flop, I call it a veteren move by a 5 time champion to help his team win the game. You say its BS cuz ur a suns fan, but if it were the other way around, and Amare got the Spurs to get a tech, you would love it like we do!!
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