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Wow...THIRTY TWO ing 3-point attempts? We should've blown these guys out by 35 points...LOL
A win's a win, though.
I totally a in gree.
Wow...THIRTY TWO ing 3-point attempts? We should've blown these guys out by 35 points...LOL
A win's a win, though.
Last edited by TampaDude; 11-25-2010 at 12:11 AM.
War spurs~
Ugly, gutsy win. In the words of Iceman King Parsons...."It bes that way sometimes."
+1. I'm not too sure last year's Spurs would have won a game like this...there's just something about this team right now. They dont give up. Down 15+ points to a pretty good Chicago team at home and to come back and win is impressive. And then to do it again on the road (even against the T'Wolves) when you're shooting 1/15 from 3-pt land at one point is pretty damn impressive. UGLY win, but...a win is a win.
Game Blouses...
Reminds me of the Championship years when they could grind out wins even when they aren't playing thier best ball.
3's weren't falling,
Tim was getting dominated by Darko,
Ime played.
Spurs still with the W
if a 3-point shooter is wide open behind the 3-point line, why would he step inside and go for 2 points? Every once in awhile to throw the defense for sure, but when your programmed to shoot open 3s, its hard to pass up a 3. Throw in the fact that Pop will probably bench you if you pass open a open 3 and you have a dilema on your hands.
Speaking of Ime, how did he look on the court?
He got a steal i believe. Tried to lead a fastbreak and nearly lost it. Lulz.
Don't get carried away. Its one win of many I hope. We need to keep winning the games we should, and come playoffs we'll be in the top 4 which means homecourt for the 1st round at least.
I ing lol'ed at that sequence. It was like 'good job Ime' followed shortly by 'noooo Ime nooooo'. Wouldnt call it a fastbreak either he was dribbling down the court slower than Bogans.
Also last year's team had that win streak late in the season snapped by the Nets, this year's team didnt give in after being down big. Hopefully this season continues to be different to last season all the way into June.
I don't completely disagree with what you're saying, but there's a subtle distinction in the philosophy that sometimes goes to critical mass in a game like tonight. The most simple response is to point out that if the defense isn't even bothering to come out to the perimeter, you have to make one at some point to get them to start paying attention. The percentage for an 18 foot jumper is way higher than for a 23 foot jumper.
If you can hit a two instead of missing a three, that's two more points than you would have gotten. Hypothetically, if the Spurs take 20 of those three point attempts shots and take a two, even if they don't draw any fouls they score 16 points and win the game in regulation. They didn't get calls early and started settling for jumpers, which put them in a big hole. The lack of aggression spread to the other end of the floor and they got domintated there too. The Spurs didn't start hitting threes in the fourth quarter until they hit a few twos. Sometimes you have to see the ball go in for a while. That's how a Timberwolves team full of scrubs couldn't miss at the end of the game.
Proper offense starts by working as close to the basket as you can get for a shot. Three pointers are designed to punish defenses for trying to clog the middle. There's a difference between taking a three after you've broken down the defense and taking a three because you passed the ball to a guy standing on the perimeter. Just because there's not a defender nearby doesn't automatically make it a good shot, especially when more than one out of every three shot attempts that goes up is from outside the arc.
that would be incredibly dumb. pass up three pointers for the most inefficient shot in basketball! brilliant.
its good that pop didn't fold the tent like he use to last year
That was a really fun game to go to in person and represent the spurs. The wolves had a decent size crowd there tonight. The wolves have had a few games against the spurs up here that they have played them tough since I moved to the twin cities. The spurs seem pull out those close games up here. This game was almost as exciting as the double over time game up here where Tony scored 55.
With this win against the T-Wolves the Spurs have won 13 straight against Minnesota. That ties the LAL for most consecutive wins against Minni.
The most inefficient shot in basketball is the one you aren't making. Again, your shooting percentage goes up the closer you get to the basket.
I'm having trouble believing that you're defending a strategy that resulted in an overtime win against the third worst team in the NBA.
They lose by 14 plus! Against CHI down 10 at the half they go down by 15 or so early in the 3rd and give up! They were just that last year.
Last year, Pop was more concerned with limiting guys' minutes. He was subbing on a schedule and stuck to it pretty religiously.
I don't disagree with all you are saying but you are making it sound a bit simple. It is the NBA, not a rec league.I don't completely disagree with what you're saying, but there's a subtle distinction in the philosophy that sometimes goes to critical mass in a game like tonight. The most simple response is to point out that if the defense isn't even bothering to come out to the perimeter, you have to make one at some point to get them to start paying attention. The percentage for an 18 foot jumper is way higher than for a 23 foot jumper.
If you can hit a two instead of missing a three, that's two more points than you would have gotten. Hypothetically, if the Spurs take 20 of those three point attempts shots and take a two, even if they don't draw any fouls they score 16 points and win the game in regulation. They didn't get calls early and started settling for jumpers, which put them in a big hole. The lack of aggression spread to the other end of the floor and they got domintated there too. The Spurs didn't start hitting threes in the fourth quarter until they hit a few twos. Sometimes you have to see the ball go in for a while. That's how a Timberwolves team full of scrubs couldn't miss at the end of the game.
Proper offense starts by working as close to the basket as you can get for a shot. Three pointers are designed to punish defenses for trying to clog the middle. There's a difference between taking a three after you've broken down the defense and taking a three because you passed the ball to a guy standing on the perimeter. Just because there's not a defender nearby doesn't automatically make it a good shot, especially when more than one out of every three shot attempts that goes up is from outside the arc.
If you are open, stepping in to shoot the long 2PT shot isn't always the best option.
Players that don't take a lot of long two's are usually more efficient shooting the 3PTer as it something that is normal for them. Especially somebody like Bonner or Neal who look all at sea trying to create for themselves. I'm sure if you looked at the %'s, somebody like Bonner would shoot a much higher % on 3PTers than on jumpshots 18-22 feet. That extra time it takes to step in and take the longer two allows the defense more time to challenge. These are NBA athletes. Corey Brewer will get in your face out of nowhere if you waste time fiddling around when you are open.
Also, passing up the open 3PT shot is one of the most annoying things for a bigman. It leads to 3 in the key calls and removes offensive predictability which makes it more difficult to read the ball on offensive rebounds. Upfaking and driving around a defender that is closing out hard is a different story because teammates can see that happening and developing and adjust accordingly. Being predictable to your teammates is perhaps the most important part of an offense like the Spurs that is predicated on execution, passing, misdirection and ball movement and not sheer physical advantages.
Proper offense is about playing to your teams strengths and abusing the weak areas of the oppositions defense. I'm sure the Spurs would love to take every shot in the paint, but is just doesn't work like that. I don't think anybody can complain about the Spurs offensively this season, even with a horrendous night from behind the arc, they still dropped 110+ on the road (albeit against a weak team).
The Spurs are going to jack up a lot of 3's against LA because that is one of the main weapons in beating that frontline. They may as work on that against all teams...
This was kinda long for me since I just got back from Gruene Hall, but what caught my eye was a rule I had when I was coaching. Big Guys stay close to the basket. (Of course none of my big guys could really shoot from the outside.)I think you made a reference to that sort of philosophy. Absolutely , long term , consistent success works from inside out .The Spurs used to do it with the likes of Robinson and then Duncan but , now the penetration of the guards and forwards are providing the inside out effect . It has to be that way and it appears the Spurs are adjusting well from the post up inside out to the penetrate and dish inside out.
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!There are those who are afraid to take on destiny, then again...there are those that look at destiny and kick it in the nuts.
Heart...you better recognize. 8 against 5 and the Spurs on the road and what?
I said WHAT!
A Dozen Straight... YEAH!!!!
additionally, a long two is the worst shot in the game, the expected return is far lower than a three pointer.
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