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Im not saying ship him off just be Nazr's back up.
I don't know why everyone's so gung-ho to ship Rasho off. Having three seven-footers is not a bad thing.
Im not saying ship him off just be Nazr's back up.
no, but two 7 footers getting 7 million a year is.
If Javtokas can bring what Rasho brings, but more athletic and better jumping ability, then uh, yeah, you trade Nesterovic.
You sort of have to take on 7 million dollars to trade 7 million dollars.
that is where the small forward comes in that is Bowen's replacement.
Well, I'm inclined to wait until we have a realistic Rasho-for-SF option before I start packing his bags for him during the Playoffs. I just see a lot of comments that strike me as suggesting we trade Rasho for the sake of trading Rasho because we have a better starting center now.
Anyway, I'm not sure Rasho's value is high enough at this point to bring us a sure-shot future starting small forward.
Send him back to the Wolves for Wally!
See ya Rasho, your a cool person, but as far as talent, you're not giving us much of anything on the court.
Bring in Javtokas & Scola get rid of TMass & Rasho, keep SMarks as a backup not making $7 Mil off the bench & draft Bowens replacement in Hakim Warrick!
nazr has been awsome but i wonder what the spurs will do with him
in the offseason.. and if they keep him, what about rasho?
or what about luis scola??? do the spurs FO still bring him in
with how well horry has been playing?
I love Nazr. I have since he came to San Antonio. I was even a fan of his in New York. The guy is just a rebounding machine and his post moves you can tell are improving greatly.
You don't come up with 2 blocks and 4 steals being lacksadaisical, but then I guess if you couldn't find anything to about Nazr about you wouldn't be happy.I find him strangely lackadaisical and unaggressive on defense compared to Rasho
There's a difference between being lacksadaisical and stupidly getting in foul trouble trying to stuff a guy like Amare who has a running start at a dunk attempt.
Spurm -
Tpark's stealing my thunder here (punk ass!), I've been advocating for the last two weeks that this summer's personnel moves look something like:
Extend Nazr
Sign Scola
trade Rasho for a long SF.
Then you've got Duncan, Horry, Scola, Nazr, and probably someone like Massenberg around to play down low.
I don't see the Spurs paying 6 million for a backup center, which is what Rasho will be, and carrying what it's going to take to re-sign Nazr.
All signs point to Rasho getting shipped out for a SF who can replace Bowen in 2-3 years. Even though a lot of folks don't think greatly of Rasho, the reality of the NBA is he's a top 7 center in the league, and that means 23 teams would love to have his services.
As for potential targets:
Golden State Warriors (JRich, Pietrus)
Hawks (Childress, JSmooth)
Memphis (Battier, Miller)
Toronto (MoPete)
Celtics (Jefferson)
Bulls (Deng, Nocioni)
Bucks (Mason)
And my personal fave, although for obvious reasons it has a snowball's chance in of happening, would be to work something out with the Clippers to do a sign and trade for Bobby Simmons.
Naziiiiii!!!
3 7-footers? Rasho's the team's only 7-footer.
7-ish footers....
Shot blockers/alterers in the post, in other words.
I really really doubt that rasho will be traded, almost not possible.
But i tell you he will be back next season at Spurs or any other team.Better seasno than this year
You know I honestly thought this same thing last offseason but he really has shown that he does not bring it offensively, I mean really his offense is offensive. Yes he is a great presence in the paint but why cant he play the post very well, it seems he moves in slo mo (no pun intended).
Then that settles it...You don't come up with 2 blocks and 4 steals being lacksadaisical, but then I guess if you couldn't find anything to about Nazr about you wouldn't be happy.
There's a difference between being lacksadaisical and stupidly getting in foul trouble trying to stuff a guy like Amare who has a running start at a dunk attempt.
Spurm -
Tpark's stealing my thunder here (punk ass!
Extend Nazr
Sign Scola
trade Rasho for a long SF.
Then you've got Duncan, Horry, Scola, Nazr, and probably someone like Massenberg around to play down low.
I don't see the Spurs paying 6 million for a backup center, which is what Rasho will be, and carrying what it's going to take to re-sign Nazr.
All signs point to Rasho getting shipped out for a SF who can replace Bowen in 2-3 years. Even though a lot of folks don't think greatly of Rasho, the reality of the NBA is he's a top 7 center in the league, and that means 23 teams would love to have his services.
As for potential targets:
Golden State Warriors (JRich, Pietrus)
Hawks (Childress, JSmooth)
Memphis (Battier, Miller)
Toronto (MoPete)
Celtics (Jefferson)
Bulls (Deng, Nocioni)
Bucks (Mason)
And my personal fave, although for obvious reasons it has a snowball's chance in of happening, would be to work something out with the Clippers to do a sign and trade for Bobby Simmons.
TRADE RASHO!!! ()
simmons would be nice to have, but you really
dont think the clippers would be stupid enough
to take him, do you? then again they might..
I agree on the offense statement. But has it ever occured to you that he is doing what is required of him? If he missed defensive assignments because he was trying to get the offensive rebound, don't you think Pop would have a problem with that?
And while it is true that he does not score much (or even enough) how about his screens?
Is that enough for him to keep a spot on this team? I do not know but I also do not pretend to know what goes on in the locker room and what Pop's plan is for him. What I do know from following his career a lot longer than most of you is that he's a much better player than you would think by reading some of the posts in this thread (and some other similar ones).
And finally having TD, Horry, Nazr and Rasho is a nice luxury and if you're going to exchange that for a shorter and unproven NBA player you better get something real good in return (and not just a shooter - PHX is full of those and a lot of good it does them).
Rasho can post up pretty well when he has the room to operate. That room isn't there when Duncan is in the game. On most other teams, I'd expect his numbers to go back to his pre-Spur levels. Don't kid yourselves, 2/3 of the teams in the league could use Rasho and plenty of those would deal for him.
Im not saying to trade or get rid of him I just think he a good bench player. And I feel that Nazr has earned his starting role and will continue to do so next season. I think it is a great lineup to have Rasho, Nazr, Tim and Horry.
A lot are advocating a trade of Rasho. Think Barry might be shipped out? Pop/RC typically do draft day deals, anything this year?
I figured Barry would be kept at least another season just to see if the corporate knowledge theory works; after his performance against the Suns he's probably here for the long haul. I'd have to say he's a bit less tradeable than Rasho, but several teams might want to try him at the point.
lots of love for Nazr, I love watching him on the court. He definitely comes to play. I found that tid bit of info they gave us yesterday interesting about his father raising 11 children and being murdered. I didn't know that and how he plays for his dad every night. That was touching.
And yes, that hold on Hunter was sweet
There are so many ifs here.
One I haven't seen brought up is the status of the CBA this offseason. If the lux tax threshold is raised, I think it is more likely that the Spurs keep both players. If it stays the same, for better or worse I think they only keep one.
Either way, I see Rasho gone. He's not going to get a lot of minutes, IMO, behind Tim and Nazr.I think it is more likely that the Spurs keep both players. If it stays the same, for better or worse I think they only keep one.
And if the Spurs ownership didn't like the thought of what they were paying Rose for what they were getting back, they won't like the idea of a higher contract for the same amount of minutes for Rasho.
Further, Bowen's got a relatively short career left, they need to find a replacement and the future of the league is in long, athletic threes.
THere's 20-24 teams that could use a center like Rasho, and would be more than willing to trade for a less than max salary serviceable big man.
Sorry to all the Rasho lovers. Assuming we extend Nazr and ink Scola, I just don't see a future for Rasho in SA.
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