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    As for trading Randolph for Blair, all I can say is WOW! What role changes have occurred since last year when Blair was untouchable and everyone wanted to trade Bonner for a yo-yo and a pack of gum. Seems like there are threads for trading Blair every time I log onto ST. Blair has heart and drive and the things that make a player great. Don't jump off that bandwagon so soon. , when Tony or Manu have a couple bad games we see the same thing with them... very tough fan base... LOL!

    As Bruno said, salary on a Blair trade wouldn't work anyway. We'd go over the luxury tax with that trade.

    Blair is a nice guy but he has size issues and you know what they say "size does matter" lol.. But serious when they play with teams that have bigs like the Wolves he pretty much can't do anything and then when we play teams that are very atheltic and like to run he can't keep up. So he is to short and to slow to be a starter for our team.

    The reason most people say keep him is because he is very cheap and is pretty good when going against other teams second unit.

    As far as Bonner the guy should be playing when he is hitting the outside shot but like Blair he is not athletic enough to defend against other teams bigs or teams that are more athletic. So when he ain't hitting his shot Bench him Pop!

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    Spurs are not trading Bonner. There is absolutely nothing that points to that. They overpay Bonner in the offseason. They continue to give him big minutes. He will never be in the dog house or on the trading block.

    The Spurs value him as a system player much more than any other team values him.
    According to Pop, he's the best shooter he ever coached. With that in mind, you're spot on. Heck, Finley wasn't even in the trading block when he wasn't getting much minutes either.

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    Last year in one of thorpes chats(who is the only espn analyst I respect) said that he always though if Anthony Randolph came to San Antonio that he would be a hall of famer.

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    It's a lot of wishful thinking but it isn't a that crazy scenario. I don't know if you have followed Knicks this year but Randolph doesn't play, and, unless his situation changed, he has no future with Knicks. They could very well trade him soon and Bonner is a player who could help them to make the playoffs.

    You can also imagine a scenario where Denver rather have a late first round pick than Randolph in a Melo trade. A trade like that would be nice for all part involved:
    Knicks trade Curry+Gallinari+Randolph+Mason+cash for Melo+Balkman+Bonner
    Nuggets trade Melo+Balkman for Curry+Gallinari+1st+cash
    Spurs trade Bonner+first for Randolph+Mason
    I haven't watched the Knicks, but I did check Randolph's game log. He must really be in the doghouse, or more clueless in a basketball IQ sense (to overcome his crazy talent) than any of us think.

    That trade looks great for NY and SA, but Denver would both have to be 100% convinced that Melo would otherwise leave in free agency, and love Gallinari (if Melo leaves, he's an expiring contract anyway so Curry is only there for filler). Would the Knicks be willing to toss in their own first-rounder (going to Denver, of course)?

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    Wayne (San Antonio, TX)


    Richard Jefferson for Corey Maggette and Anthony Randolph?


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    I tweeted this summer that if AR played in San Antonio, he'd end up being a Hall of Famer.

    This is from last years chat. As a person, coach and talent scout, I really respect David Thorpes views, and anyone who reads his chats would agree. As much as I love Blair, AR upside is crazy. If POP could get his head straight, which I believe he and the team could, we have ourselves a weapon. With our new uptempo pace AR would thrive as long as he played within himself. If we just told him to get rebounds and play D I think it would improve our starting line up d immensely, with the way he gets weak side blocks. Not too sure what his jump shot within 15ft is like, but I think his shot is probably further along than blairs. I also believe he would be a solid defender to throw at the dirks/odoms of the league. Again this all depends on his at ude, but just look how Tyrus Thomas turned out for Charlotte when he got a coach he respects.

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    It's a lot of wishful thinking but it isn't a that crazy scenario. I don't know if you have followed Knicks this year but Randolph doesn't play, and, unless his situation changed, he has no future with Knicks. They could very well trade him soon and Bonner is a player who could help them to make the playoffs.

    You can also imagine a scenario where Denver rather have a late first round pick than Randolph in a Melo trade. A trade like that would be nice for all part involved:
    Knicks trade Curry+Gallinari+Randolph+Mason+cash for Melo+Balkman+Bonner
    Nuggets trade Melo+Balkman for Curry+Gallinari+1st+cash
    Spurs trade Bonner+first for Randolph+Mason
    If you're the Spurs, I'm not sure that's enough. Randolph I can buy, but Mason is worthless to them. In his limited playing time with the Knicks, he's played just as poorly as he did with the Spurs during his second season in San Antonio.

    If you're the Spurs, and you're giving up Bonner and a 1st, I think you have to ask for at least Anthony Randolph and Bill Walker in return. Or maybe you really get gutsy and ask for Randolph and Chandler for Bonner, Quinn and a first. NY would probably balk--but maybe not if the ultimate return is Melo--in which case you settle on Walker rather than Chandler.

    I might give two firsts if it landed both Chandler and Randolph, who would dramatically improve the Spurs defense, give them more scoring (but, unfortunately, not spacing), and at 23 and 21 years old they are likely better than anyone the Spurs would get in the next few drafts.
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    I agree, I always thought Randolph would be a positive fit with the Spurs. He has seemed to have some issues but Spurs organization would be a perfect place for him to mature mentally and blossom as a player.

    That is if Pop played him of course.

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    Randolph seems like an interesting player. But the guy is in his third season in the NBA and is 1-11 career from the 3. Yes, hes only ever made one triple. Were he a better three point shooter, or one at all, I'd consider him. Hes got a nice skill set and size. But that lack of range probably takes him off the radar.

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    That trade looks great for NY and SA, but Denver would both have to be 100% convinced that Melo would otherwise leave in free agency, and love Gallinari (if Melo leaves, he's an expiring contract anyway so Curry is only there for filler). Would the Knicks be willing to toss in their own first-rounder (going to Denver, of course)?
    The earliest first round pick Knicks can trade is a 2014 one.

    It's sure that it is a poor return for a player like Melo and that Denver will only do this deal if they think he will leave them this summer. However, something hidden in this trade is that Denver will save a lot of money by doing it. Between less luxury tax, less salary paid, the cash send form NY, Balkman dumped and Curry salary still being mainly paid, Denver will save more than $10M this year.

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    blair and trade shouldnt be in the same sentence.. dude's grabbing boards and makin' smart plays down low.. we all have our good and bad days.. calm down
    Like what he said

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    I love Blair he is a fell good story but everyone knows that he is not a starting player. He has no outside game as of yet and we really don't know how long he will be able to play because of his knee issues.

    As far as talent AR is way ahead of Blair the only issue is AR smart enough to make it in Pop system and can Pop make him into the All Star that he should be?

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    If we could trade Blair for a great talent that would be a good fit here, then sure, that makes sense. But all this talk of trading Blair just to trade him is silly in my opinion. The only season is this season. In the Summer, if Blair is still slumping then you can trade him. But I still think he has way too much potential and talent to just ship off so quickly, especially when the team is doing well. Some people just need something to complain about. I think Blair is fine right now. I wish he was playing better, but I don't think it's a crisis by any stretch.

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