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And to think the Spurs accomplished all of those impressive feats in spite of their head coach. Amazing.
I'm not the media or the typical Spurs fan . . . I don't get excited and slobber over the Mavs every time they go on a win streak. They're still the same old flawed team.
this might be butthurt post of the year
And to think the Spurs accomplished all of those impressive feats in spite of their head coach. Amazing.
Mavs continue to be a TERRIBLE match-up for the Spurs. Or more specifically, Dirk is a terrible match-up. We are going to be in serious trouble if we meet them in the playoffs and Splitter isn't capable of guarding him.
Historical perpectives are fine. Yet current facts and issues are really what it's all about. Despite their woeful playoff history, let's not sit here and act as though the Mavs have never beaten the Spurs in the playoffs. Say what you want, they cannot be easily dismissed. They ARE a good team - and whether anyone wants to admit it or not - they are playing defense at a level unheard of for even them. They will, once again, be a formidable playoff foe and a hard out for the Spurs.
For the record, they DO have one component that the Spurs do not - a young, long, athletic, shotblocking, rebounding, center, who changes the flow of traffic to the rim. Chandler's contributions, much like Robinson in his prime, is the primary reason that Mavs are holding opponents to the lower 40% in FG.
It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, once the playoffs commence.
Yeah, because that's exactly what I said.
Typical Spurs fan.
Spurs 4
this might be butthurt post of the year
Mavericks 0
any questions?
I think if both teams are healthy, the Mavs would beat the Spurs in 6. The Spurs always play poorly against strong defensive teams.
What sucks, is it feels like even if Pop was given Tyson Chandler, he'd still resort to small ball because he has almost completely abandoned staying big.
http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/12...38&feedID=3742Old rivals Mavs, Spurs quietly sit atop NBA
By Michael Dugat
FOXSportsSouthwest.com
If you’re perusing the national NBA headlines, averting your eyes after the leading stories, trusting the media’s gaze to guide your interest, it stands to reason that you may be unaware of where teams finding their homes outside of South Beach, and to a lesser extent, Los Angeles, find themselves as the league approaches its quarter mark.
As the reigning back-to-back champions, the Lakers have the means to justify their continued attention, unlike their less-accomplished, prematurely-crowned challengers in Miami.
There are games being played away from the lush beaches of Miami; rolling on where television stars are only on the television, and less often in the stands.
Just over a week ago, almost unnoticed, two of the best teams in the league faced off. There were no stories of fan animosity towards the return of a soiled chosen one. No dramas glorified and dissected to their finest minutia. No raging debate as to whether or not chalk would be tossed defiantly in the air just before the opening tip.
No, there was only the draw found in the promise of an engaging, well-executed and hard-fought game of basketball, a matchup between two teams who have staked their early claims to the best and second-best records in the league. Thus, there were almost no stories at all.
They are long-time rivals, and the fact that their battles have faded from the public’s interest is a bruise to the game they’re playing so well, and to the season they should be helping to define.
Yet, beyond the range of local coverage, they’re sliding along beneath the horizon of notoriety.
Arguably, they’re the two best teams in the league to this point … and yet those outside of San Antonio and Dallas have likely seen little more than a scrolling mention beneath a panel of four analysts deconstructing the nuances, the angles, the speed and direction of the arena’s climate control systems, and the implied intentions behind LeBron James’ shoulder as it made contact with Erik Spoelstra.
You can likely replay the video as a perfect echo in your mind thanks to countless repe ion. You can sync it side-by-side, without need of a video player, with the images of James going through near identical motions as he shoulder-bumped Mike Brown years ago.
Yet, if you live outside of Texas and haven’t devoted your own efforts to investigate such matters, are you aware that Manu Ginobli and Dirk Nowitzki are embarking upon the early stages of MVP quality seasons … perhaps displaying the best work of their distinguished careers.
Have you seen stories on the renaissance of Tyson Chandler’s career as he’s led a shifting in the iden y of the Mavericks from an offensive force chained to the weight of its deficiencies on the other end of the court, into one of, if not the, best defensive team in the league?
Dallas leads the NBA by allowing opponents to shoot a lowly 42.8-percent from the floor. Ranks second in points allowed (91.6). And, there is no team better at tightening the defensive vice when the game enters the fourth and most vital quarter, where the Mavs hold the opposition to 21.8 points in the final frame.
Have whispers over the redirected course of Richard Jefferson’s career found their way to your ear … and with it, news of a metamorphosis in the method of victory for the surging Spurs?
Seemingly askew to the perceptions carried forward, Dallas now enters arenas as a dynamic defensive force, while San Antonio comes with the threat of a high-powered offense.
Fed by the fuel of Ginobli’s offensive brilliance, Jefferson’s resurgence and Tony Parker’s continued prowess, the Spurs are currently the fourth highest scoring offense in the league, hanging an average of 106.6 points on their opponents … and they’re doing so without the need to rely on their veteran leader, Tim Duncan.
Per game, Duncan is averaging a career low in points (14.2), rebounds (9.5) and minutes (29.9).
Much like Dallas, this is a team who has shed the s of perception and adapted to a new style of play … of winning.
If you were forced to guess at the four teams sharing the best records in the league, would you put San Antonio (16-3) first, followed by a three-way tie between Dallas, Orlando and Boston at 15-4?
Based on recent success, assumptions would likely lend to the inclusion of Boston and Orlando in the lists of most. But, it is also assumption that most would embrace to explain how these teams have to come to stand where they are.
Other than a handful of stories surrounding the peaks of Rajon Rondo’s amazing rate of gathering assists, where are the stories covering what is driving the success of these teams?
The interest in the Miami Heat is understandable, as is the curiosity enveloping both its success and failures.
It’s justifiable to lead with coverage on the exploits of the back-to-back champs.
In the end, headlines are directed by the attention they draw. As a result of where the early attention has found its focus, the skeleton being pieced together to shape and support the body of the 2010-11 NBA season is forming in the shadows of a shallow, often media-created, near scripted drama … leaving the whole of the game to evolve unnoticed.
To put it in television terms, the world is being shown American Idol, Dancing With The Stars and CSI and is soaking it in with ravenous appe es.
Meanwhile, beneath this massive current, a show providing the depth of The Wire is found by a lucky few willing to take the time to switch the channel and reap the rewards found therein.
Beyond the callous, monotonous, endless spray of coverage directed at one team, there waits an eventful and diverse season of high quality basketball unfolding with San Antonio and Dallas resting at its epicenter … if only it was deemed worthy of further coverage.
18/82
If it's not to much of a struggle, do the math.
Don't be dumb. The team to beat? After 18 games and an 8 game win streak?
I'll give you your due if these numbers are even remotely the same as the playoffs start. They won't be though, book it.
Defensive efficiency paints a much better picture; the Mavs are 4th and the Spurs are 8th right now.
It's more fun to pretend the Mavs are some juggernaut that the Spurs need to be scared of. Because we all know the Spurs have no chance against the big, bad Mavs.
When the Mavs were the superior offensive team, it was "they have too much firepower for us". Now that they're a slightly better defensive, but much worse offensive team, it's "they're much better defensively". One way or the other, there's always some reason to pretend the Spurs are the clear cut underdogs.
I don't get this fan base. You'd think they'd look down their noses at the Mavs and their fans. Instead, they act like the fans of the team who have won zero championships and treat the Mavs like they've won four championships.
Say what you want about Lakers fans, but you'd never see them constantly acting like they're scared of and slobbering over the Spurs. And the Spurs and the Lakers are a lot closer success wise in the past dozen seasons than the Spurs and the Mavs are.
Whats this? The official food of the Dallas Mavericks?
I think it's a politician.
Someone that losses over and over...I think?
lol @ the asspain of TD 21. ing asspained maggot.
Mavs look good, and yes its too early to tell, plus they are well known chockers.
It would be nice if they faced the lakers in the playoffs, before the spurs though.
What the gives any team the right to look down its nose at another? That's a recipe for defeat. Do you think that's the lesson that Pop tells his team? "Don't worry about the Mavs, because we kicked their ass in the playoffs last season." If you've ever paid attention, Pop himself has constantly reminded his team to have the appropriate level of respect for their foes.
Don't get it twisted. That doesn't mean that anyone should fear them. Not at all. Nobody is giving the Mavs the NBA le. And nobody is proclaiming the Spurs should cede the Southwest Division le already.
You're acting as if the Mavs have never had any playoff success against the Spurs. You're also foolishly implying that if the two teams square off again in the playoffs, that we should all expect the Spurs to come away victorious in a 4-game sweep. The point is that it's all about matchups. Even you should know that. And the fact remains that the Mavs have historically been a bad matchup for the Spurs.
The past doesn't have squat to do with the present. Did anyone see a four-game sweep at the hands of the Suns coming? By your logic, the Spurs should've mowed them down last year because that's the way it's always been. No. Last year, the Suns were finally able to field a roster that took advantage of areas where the Spurs were weak.
In the final analysis, nothing will be determined until the playoffs. In the meantime, don't be foolish enough to dismiss the upper-tier teams in the conference, simply because of past history. After all, we're all chasing the Fakers. Who knows? Perhaps this the year that they're ripe to fall?
Last edited by SenorSpur; 12-05-2010 at 04:42 AM.
Oh yes, it's a difficult struggle, considering the Spurs won four championships for being a highly refined defensive team. & how many have the Mavericks won with their defense, or offense? The Spurs know how to win, they know how to execute when it counts. The Mavs mindset in the playoffs stays the same as it was in the regular season, where as the Spurs mindset becomes that of a champion. You lack the knockout punch, and that won't change.
Besides, it's early in the season, and you guys know better than anyone, that standings in any aspect of the game, don't mean .
I just watched the Dallas-Sac game. Not impressed at all. Very reassuring to see that Kidd is even a worse shooter than before and their backup PG is a midget. Chandler is on the same level as Dice or Splitter. In the PO it would be Dirk against the Spurs as usual and the chokers would choke again as they always do. Dallas is still the joke of the NBA.
Yup the Mavs have never had what it takes to knock out the Spurs in the playoffs. You have nothing to worry about
lol TD getting put in his place
This doesn't apply.
When the Mavs play against the Spurs-it is the championship for them.
The Mavs may bend over willingly when they face the lakers or other tough teams-but when they play the spurs-they play like the USA Dream Team.
They will shoot 65-70%, will play D, will run like gazelles, will with Pop by going ultra small, etc.
Yes but they lost against us in last POs and we have a much better team this season, no more RMJ or Bogans
boo y. that is all.
read the post again if necessary.
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