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    once he's getting looks with the first unit and is allowed to settle in as someone who can thrive off the playmaking of the big 3 + 1, then we'll really start to see him shine. He'll be able to catch the ball in his spots, make one post dribble or go straight into a post move, then you'll see how efficient he is.
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    So im guessing every one is just going to act like they didn't see what happened when splitter played with manu and tony.... and im assuming every one is just goingt to forget about how splitter is always in the right spot for put backs how he is dangerous on the pick and roll and how great he is on defense.....

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    I agree that Splitter will be a much better post-up player than he has shown so far..his footwork has been pretty good, it's mostly his shot that has been the problem..I'm assuming the Spurs' coaches will work on that a little..

    My point is that I can understand why Pop would be reluctant to run plays for him in the post, or why fans would think poorly of Splitter(in that regard), but the p&r/screen/cutting plays should be his main playcalling, which is why I would like to see him play more with the big 3..
    It would be great if he can develop a midrange shot but I'm not going to expect much from him in that area.

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    Then why does Pop give him Carl Herrera minutes? Dude... he has played in one game that meant something, the rest were fill in minutes and blowouts....

    Huh?

    You can't statistically rack that up.... Here is a few things I noticed that don't hit the stat board... He doesn't play big, he dribbles to much, he doesn't hold the ball above his head, he doesn't dunk much, he should be rippin the rim down... He runs around with a smile on his face like he is playing tag out there... Well, it's simple...Pop doesn't play him because he probably isn't worthy of it... James Anderson damn near started the first few games...Dejuan Blair was robbed of the rookie allstar game mvp...this dude maybe parking cars during allstar weekend...

    But anyway, very good write up Harlem...Go Spurstalk stuff.

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    I'll take a young Oberto if that is Splitters ceiling. And I wouldn't be disappointed at all.

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    The Splitter hate has been tame compared to the Blair hate ...Spurs fans boy oh boy. Like I said in one of those 50 billion bench/trade Blair threads, people are expecting the spurs to dump it down (4 down) plays for Splitter, basically from what I make out, Gasol-lite type of player. The Spurs will need both Blair and Splitter if they plan on getting to the promise land. I have no impressions of Splitter. I've seen him play and I know what to expect. In the NBA at best 13pts, 7.5 rbs. Splitter is not the next Manu, he is though, a very good role-player. Euro star doesn't= Nba star or even scrub but I think its safe to say he's not a scrub. He's Oberto mix with Rasho

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    Why is everybody so quick to forget about the injury? How many times have we seen one of the Spurs players get injured, and Pop wouldn't allow them to come back as quickly as they wanted to? And when he did let them come back, he wouldn't let them have the minutes they wanted right away?

    I talked about this when the injury was first reported, but I'll repeat it. A friend of mine had a plantaris injury, and his orthopedist told him, "It's never just the plantaris." It's a small muscle that doesn't do much, but from what I understand that is why it is not a common injury. And a lot of the time it comes along with a small ACL tear. And when athletes try to come back too quickly from the plantaris, they often wind up injuring the ACL much worse.

    Splitter's injury is only 2 months old. Looking at his minutes, it's not hard for me to believe that Pop could be watching his minutes closely, and bringing him along slowly. (Which would be the ideal way to bring someone back with a potential ACL problem.) In the few games where Pop has put Splitter in for extended minutes, he has held him to few or no minutes in the next game. I don't think it's a punishment, and I don't think Pop is stupid. What else is left?

    I think the Spurs have learned a lot about injuries that are caused by repeated stress or trauma. And if they could do things over again, I bet they would have held Tim out of more games. This year they have the luxury of being 16-3, with Splitter playing short minutes. How much better could they have been, up to now?

    Personally, I don't think Pop will give him a lot of minutes until that injury is at least 90 days old. I wouldn't. It's early in the season, and early in Splitter's career. What's the rush?

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    Splitter has his strengths and his weaknesses. And he's very green.

    The main weakness I see is that he can't create for himself. Not a lot of big men can these days. To score, he's going to need someone to feed him. If he's playing with good passers, like Manu or Tim, I think he'll be able to convert quite a few buckets.

    He's energetic, smart, aggressive enough, knows how to draw fouls, and he's tall. I really hope that Pop figures out how to utilize him as the season goes along.

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    Good stuff, Harlem.

    Splitter's been everything I expected and more,
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    Jest, you surely.

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    Jest, you surely.
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    And don't call me Shirley.
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    My hero . . .


    "Like a midget in a urinal, I was going to have to stay on my toes." Lt. Frank Drebin, Police Squad.

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    Big props to Harlem for starting this thread. I am confident that the Spurs will utilize Splitter's abilities much better when he gets PT with Parker or Manu. Their PnR play should be sweet. Splitter's rebounding should be slightly below average and his passing above average and one of his strengths. I hope to see more of his hook shot but I have no real hope that he will learn to shoot from the outside.

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    I read the OP's post and somewhat agree, but is it just me, or does Splitter's release look funny? Not sure if this has been mentioned or not. When he goes up for a layup it looks awkward...

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    ^^^Like a twist of the hand or something? Am I the only one seeing that? Given I drink alot during games, so please correct me if I am wrong.

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    So im guessing every one is just going to act like they didn't see what happened when splitter played with manu and tony...
    And why haven't we seen more of that since? The very next game he got 10 secs playing time. Pop's just showing us who's boss I guess.

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    It seems worth noting that Splitter has been getting the rookie treatment from the refs pretty bad, especially on D.
    Simple truth of the matter is the refs aren't going to respect a guy playing sporadic minutes behind Matt Bonner. The longer Splitter stays out of Pop's rotation, the less familarity and respect he will recieve from nba refs.

    Meanwhile, I'm sure Matt Bonner will continue to get all kinds of attention for his hot shooting games against the leagues' scrub teams and yet still won't be able to buy a call come playoff time. Again, just a a simple truth of the matter.

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    There's a new article at the EN where this is discussed a bit. Some quotes from Pop in the article.

    Not sure what I can or can't post so I will just link to the article - http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...plitter-blair/

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    great!
    best player by numbers analysis since...well I guess since Harlem made the last such post.

    I do think the whole Splitter discussion will be obsolete soon. and I do think Pop has a plan.
    fact is, the season is only thru the 1st quarter. plenty games left (much more important games) to give Splitter more minutes.
    he was injured, missed camp and season start. I can see why Pop wants to bring him extremely slow and carefully, (I guess he even said something along that line) especially as long as there is absolutely no need to change the winning formula.
    2002-03 Manu also struggled with an injury and it took quite some time till he got his role with the team. (till the point when Pop decided to bench Smith and hand his minutes to Sjax and Manu). I wouldn't be surprised if we see a similar move around ASB.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBwFgh7YyY

    here's a good mix with Tiago's offense moves.

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    Why is everybody so quick to forget about the injury? How many times have we seen one of the Spurs players get injured, and Pop wouldn't allow them to come back as quickly as they wanted to? And when he did let them come back, he wouldn't let them have the minutes they wanted right away?

    I talked about this when the injury was first reported, but I'll repeat it. A friend of mine had a plantaris injury, and his orthopedist told him, "It's never just the plantaris." It's a small muscle that doesn't do much, but from what I understand that is why it is not a common injury. And a lot of the time it comes along with a small ACL tear. And when athletes try to come back too quickly from the plantaris, they often wind up injuring the ACL much worse.

    Splitter's injury is only 2 months old. Looking at his minutes, it's not hard for me to believe that Pop could be watching his minutes closely, and bringing him along slowly. (Which would be the ideal way to bring someone back with a potential ACL problem.) In the few games where Pop has put Splitter in for extended minutes, he has held him to few or no minutes in the next game. I don't think it's a punishment, and I don't think Pop is stupid. What else is left?

    I think the Spurs have learned a lot about injuries that are caused by repeated stress or trauma. And if they could do things over again, I bet they would have held Tim out of more games. This year they have the luxury of being 16-3, with Splitter playing short minutes. How much better could they have been, up to now?

    Personally, I don't think Pop will give him a lot of minutes until that injury is at least 90 days old. I wouldn't. It's early in the season, and early in Splitter's career. What's the rush?

    Thanks for this post man. you enlightened us. this must be the reason

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    Great posts!! One of the best I have seen concerning Tiago on these baords. I think Tiago will be a great spur. Looking at Scola's first year at 27 years old, he averaged 10.3 points and 6.4 boards a game playing in all 82 games averaging 24.7 minutes a night.

    Ginobili only played in 69 games coming into the league at age 25. Manu averaged 7.6 points and an even 2 assists a night while playing 20.7 minutes a night. The thing that is amazing about Manu is his steals per game stayed around the 1.5 steals his entire career. Obviously Manu came with his defense ready to go.

    Splitter started the season injured and is putting up great numbers with the limited time he has had to go on. I feel like people expect him to play in all 82 games starting 81 of them, play 36.6 minutes a night, average 24.3 points, 12 boards, 3.9 blocks, and 1.7 steals per game. Let's be honest, we got lucky to witness that happen once at the center position.

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