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Greenberg has said they won't chase this far enough to marginalize the franchise, so we'll see.
Really? Where did you hear that?
Greenberg has said they won't chase this far enough to marginalize the franchise, so we'll see.
yeah, in their current state, I'd be shocked if they did.
Lee is 32 years old. How many more years do you think he will be pitching like he is now? It took along time to get to where he is now as a pitcher and he will fall off very quickly.
Better get him on the Roger Clemens training plan with some fresh urine and blood laying around if you're gonna offer him 6 to 7 yrs. I think the Rangers see their window as 3 maybe 4 yrs and want to maximize now. All this would be a lot easier if they just wouldn't have laid a ing egg when they had the le on their finger tips.
Cliff Lee has been a really good pitcher for a while. It hasn't just been the last three seasons. He did go 46-24 his first three full seasons in Cleveland. And his stuff has pretty much always been really good. Has 4-5 plus pitches. And he doesn't rely on a high 90s fastball to get hitters out. So he probably has more longevity than most pitchers his age. I look at Jaime Moyer and what he did when he was 38/39 years old. Moyer went 20-6, pitched 209 innings, had a 3.43 ERA and a 1.102 WHIP at that age. It's rare, but Cliff Lee is the type of pitcher that can be very effective through his late 30s. Will he? Obviously remains to be seen. But, I wouldn't rule it out and say he can't.
He can still be good, but can he be anywhere near 25 mil a year good after say the first 2 to 3 yrs of the contract?
Is any pitcher worth $25 million anyway? He probably isn't worth that even when he pitches his best baseball. But that's the financial landscape of the MLB at the moment. And let's say with the inflation of that MLB financial landscape $25 million in 2017 would be similar to something like $18 million right now. He might be closer to worth it than you think. Look at those numbers I posted of Jamie Moyer when he was pitching as a 38/39 year old. 20 game winner, 200+ innings, 3.4 ERA. if Cliff Lee did that in the last year of his contract, would he be worth it? I'm just saying it's possible.
More than that anyway, both the Rangers and the Yankees would be paying Cliff Lee all that money to help their respective teams win a World Series or two... or three. Let's say whichever team signs Lee wins two World Series in the first 4 years of his contract, he averages 18 wins in those first 4 years, and he wins one more Cy Young and finishes in the top 5 in the other three season. Say all of that happens. Would it matter what happens in the last 2-3 years of his contract if that's what he helps the team accomplish?
nolan ryan knows what it takes to pitch when you are over 40 O
$25 mill for a guy that starts every 4th or 5th game? No, but the current market is out of whack so I guess worth is relative.
basically front load the contract? If they are guaranteed two WS wins, absolutely.
Looking at his regualr season stats over the last couple of years though, I don't think Cliff is that guy.
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