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Awesome, I'm going to share it with my FB friends as well.
What are the other teams?Only four teams in NBA history have started better through 25 games than the Spurs' 22-3.
Awesome, I'm going to share it with my FB friends as well.
I love this. As more people follow, I'll make sure it gets to the news stations, I'm sure one of them will do a quick story on it sooner or later, then it will pick up with even more people, and maybe even a mention during one of the games on tv, then on one of the national games it could get mentioned after that, which would help with Manu being in the national dialogue of the MVP debate..
Howard is going to win it.
Could't find it. I was able to find this tidbit though,which may narrow it down:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=301216007The Spurs are a franchise best 22-3 through 25 games. The last 3 teams to start 22-3 or better each made it to the NBA Finals.
23-2Only four teams in NBA history have started better through 25 games than the Spurs' 22-3.
2008-09 Celtics (lost ECSF)
1995-96 Bulls (Champs)
1969-70 Knicks (Champs)
1966-67 Sixers (Champs)
ESPN didn't get that right.Could't find it. I was able to find this tidbit though,which may narrow it down:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=301216007The Spurs are a franchise best 22-3 through 25 games. The last 3 teams to start 22-3 or better each made it to the NBA Finals.
The last three teams to start 22-3 or better are:
2008-09 Celtics (Lost ECSF) 23-2
2007-08 Celtics (Champs) 22-3
2005-06 Pistons (lost ECF) 22-3
You can search for things like this at basketball-reference.com, but only going back to the 86-87 season.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...=&order_by=pts
Thanks for the research/info Mel_13.
Last edited by duncan228; 12-18-2010 at 02:50 PM.
I like what he said though... THE SPURS ARE THE MVT!!!
Nice research there, Mel.
Thank Mel!
I've about doubled the "likes" so far.
If my memory is good, the only compe ion where Manu didn't get the MVP award is NBA, he was Italian, Euro, World, Olympics.
not in WC Walter.
I am happy for Manu...
Well Manu is definitely moving up. As per NBA.com:
4. Manu Ginobili
San Antonio Spurs
G MIN FG% 3P% FT% STL BLK RPG AST PTS PER
27 32.2 .457 .356 .886 1.8 0.4 3.6 4.9 19.7 23.5
His numbers may not be spectacular, but if you watch the Spurs on a nightly basis, you know who takes and makes every big shot for the league's best team. (Last week: 8 | Team record: 24-3)
He's in the top 5 now!
Well Manu is definitely moving up. As per NBA.com:
4. Manu Ginobili
San Antonio Spurs
G MIN FG% 3P% FT% STL BLK RPG AST PTS PER
27 32.2 .457 .356 .886 1.8 0.4 3.6 4.9 19.7 23.5
His numbers may not be spectacular, but if you watch the Spurs on a nightly basis, you know who takes and makes every big shot for the league's best team. (Last week: 8 | Team record: 24-3)
He's in the top 5 now!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/MANU-4...23664504365135
Well Manu is definitely moving up. As per NBA.com:
4. Manu Ginobili
San Antonio Spurs
G MIN FG% 3P% FT% STL BLK RPG AST PTS PER
27 32.2 .457 .356 .886 1.8 0.4 3.6 4.9 19.7 23.5
His numbers may not be spectacular, but if you watch the Spurs on a nightly basis, you know who takes and makes every big shot for the league's best team. (Last week: 8 | Team record: 24-3)
He's in the top 5 now!
Very impressive! Thanks for posting!
I keep trying to find the link to the whole new updated list. Could you post the link? I know it's on the NBA.com site, but I can't seem to find the appropriate section.
That MVP List is ESPN's, not NBA.com's.
http://espn.go.com/nba/notebook/_/pa...a-awards-watch
The latest Race to the MVP on NBA.com is from December 17. Post #17 in this thread. Manu was #7 there.
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...s=iref:nbahpt1
Thanks so much for the link!
That would explain why I couldn't find it on NBA.com!
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/feature...s=iref:nbahpt1
MVP standings not as important to Spurs as NBA ones
By Steve Aschburner
Posted Jan 14 2011 11:44AM
The San Antonio Spurs no longer could be ignored. Their winning had become relentless, their success imposing.
As they put serious daylight between themselves and the rest of the NBA -- their 33-6 record is the league's best, 3 ½ games better than Boston, 4 ½ out front of the Los Angeles Lakers in the West -- it seemed that some up-close poking and prodding was in order. Not just to determine the perennial contender's pecking order of Most Valuableness for the purposes of the Race, but to see what the Spurs think of the award and the endeavor overall.
Turns out, not much. Particularly when asked, point blank, who San Antonio's MVP is.
"Well you know I won't answer that," coach Gregg Popovich said after his team's 91-84 victory over the Bucks Wednesday at Bradley Center. "I think the team is the most valuable, really. This season especially. We get really balanced scoring -- last night [at Minnesota] was even more balanced than tonight. And I know they don't care who's scoring. It's just a matter of playing the game.
"So we don't really have MVP candidates. We don't really think in those terms."
Hmm. Nice sentiment, and it seems to be working for Popovich. But the fact is, the Spurs have had three league MVPs in their history: Tim Duncan (2002, 2003) and David Robinson (1995).
So even in the best one-for-all, all-for-one cir stances -- with Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili leading a bench corps that includes Antonio McDyess, Matt Bonner, Gary Neal, George Hill -- some poppies grow taller than others and there's nothing necessarily wrong with that.
"Tony and Manu have been playing the best on the team," Duncan said.
Great. Now we were getting somewhere. Or not.
"We have guys coming off the bench who are playing really well. We need an entire team effort. So that's a great problem to have right now. We're not counting on one guy on any given night -- we're asking a bunch of guys to step up and make plays for us."
Duncan, at 34 averaging career lows in points (13.7) and rebounds (9.3), still is a commanding presence but he neither can nor is asked to dominate the way he once did. "An MVP is the person who has to do the most for his team in a winning situation," he said. "But we just have a lot of guys who are playing well on a lot of different nights. It's turned into the record that we have now, and we're not counting on one individual to get it done every night and wear somebody down."
Most outsiders have pointed to shooting guard Ginobili as San Antonio's MVP and, by default, its top league MVP candidate. The tricky part is that Ginobili ranks 25th in the NBA in scoring, 28th in assists, 19th in free-throw shooting, 39th in efficiency and 76th in field-goal percentage. He does rank eighth in steals.
But few players bring as much to their teams at both ends of the court, much of which doesn't get measured even by trendier statistics. Against the Bucks Wednesday, there were possessions when Ginobili would get a hand on the ball to disrupt one Milwaukee player's dribble and rhythm, then beat a second Buck to his spot to alter the fellow's shot. He could rotate from John Salmons to Andrew Bogut and still wind up with the defensive rebound.
In the fourth quarter, Ginobili sat down with 6:45 left, San Antonio up 79-72. By the time he returned at 2:48, the Spurs had been outscored 8-2. Yet they closed the game in a 10-4 spurt. Salmons, who had hit three shots in the middle of the quarter for seven points, managed just one long, contested (and failed) jumper the rest of the way. And it was Ginobili, with a runner in the lane, who got the Spurs cushion to 83-80.
So the committee surrounded McDyess afterward, the locker room nearly empty, and asked the question again.
"If I had to pick one person? Manu probably," the veteran forward said. "Every night he's very consistent for us. When we need big buckets, he's there to make 'em. He's quick like a cat -- he's always disrupting something. So defensively he's always there. Offensively he's always there. So he does everything."
Ah, now The Race was getting somewhere. Until it talked to Ginobili in the hallway outside.
"It's great to hear that," he said. "But the thing is, who cares who's the most valuable player on the team when you're leading the league? Nobody cares. When TD was winning MVPs, nobody cared -- we just wanted to win. In the first games of the season, I was playing well and feeling really good, so the team used me more. But in 82 games, it's going to go to Tony, it's going to go to Tim. Even Gary Neal has won many games for us. Matt Bonner. So really, nobody cares."
The 100 miles back to Race headquarters was a lot longer drive after that. But here are this week's rankings anyway:
Race to the MVP
By Steve Aschburner, NBA.com
6. Manu Ginobili, Spurs (36-6)
G MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG FG% 3P% FT%
42 31.7 19.0 4.0 4.8 1.8 0.4 .438 .364 .878
Last Week's Rank - 9
The committee was feeling very team-oriented this week, and it is impossible to ignore San Antonio's .857 winning percentage. Ginobili's Swiss Army knife-like contributions earn him best-player-on-way-best-team status.
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The rest, hit the link for the write-ups.
1. Derrick Rose, Bulls (29-14)
2. Dwight Howard, Magic (27-15)
3. LeBron James, Heat (30-13)
4. Amar'e Stoudemire, Knicks (22-19)
5. Kobe Bryant, Lakers (31-13)
7. Deron Williams, Jazz (27-15)
8. Kevin Durant, Thunder (27-15)
9. Rajon Rondo, Celtics (32-9)
10. Blake Griffin, Clippers (16-26)
Manu deserves it.
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