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    Jefferson is playing great, I was upset with the signing(too long and too much $), I would have rather had Anderson or Hairston(if he didn't get injured and then stashed in Europe) start at the time..obviously that looks silly now, since Jefferson seems to have had some miraculous improvement, where he's now a legit starter that creates a mismatch on the offensive end..

    However, Jefferson's problem last year was that he was a massive liability in the playoffs and completely folded under pressure, while providing nothing on the defensive end..his true test will obviously be in May and June, if the Spurs make it that far..

    Pop deserves more credit than anybody IMO..he took a player that was seemingly on the decline, and knew he had to put in as much work as possible to help him out, since the Spurs didn't have any other options for their starting SF..I don't know what he did, it seems mysterious since neither of them have actually said anything, but it's working, obviously..
    good point

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    What does that say for the rest of the league when a is owning that ass in a "mans" sport?

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    I never once hated on RJ and thought he would eventually figure it out...and he has. Thank goodness for that because the dude is just straight ballin' right now...it's just great to watch. He seems to have a certain "swagger" to him this year as well...

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    what does being gay have to do with putting the ball in the hole
    Maybe he turned down siraulo23's advances in a club one time.

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    they just told him 'pretend the Rim is Luke Walton's Rim' and RJ went to town on it

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    they just told him 'pretend the Rim is Luke Walton's Rim' and RJ went to town on it

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    Was he this good in Milwaukee?

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    Was he this good in Milwaukee?
    Yes. I don't remember if RJ was their leading scorer for a full season, but I believe he was.

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    RJ played fabulous.

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    Jefferson is playing great, I was upset with the signing(too long and too much $), I would have rather had Anderson or Hairston(if he didn't get injured and then stashed in Europe) start at the time..obviously that looks silly now, since Jefferson seems to have had some miraculous improvement, where he's now a legit starter that creates a mismatch on the offensive end..

    However, Jefferson's problem last year was that he was a massive liability in the playoffs and completely folded under pressure, while providing nothing on the defensive end..his true test will obviously be in May and June, if the Spurs make it that far..

    Pop deserves more credit than anybody IMO..he took a player that was seemingly on the decline, and knew he had to put in as much work as possible to help him out, since the Spurs didn't have any other options for their starting SF..I don't know what he did, it seems mysterious since neither of them have actually said anything, but it's working, obviously..

    I always liked Jefferson as a player, but I thought he was a terrible fit for the Spurs system and style of play. I never thought he crumbled in his first season so much as he just didn't fit. He never got the kind of touches he needed to get into rhythm, and his presence just sort of chopped up the offense as well as his own game.

    I give him and Pop both a lot of credit. He obviously worked hard in the offseason. But Pop has also allowed for some changes to the offense that accomodate RJ better. They both altered their style, and that's a lot more rare than most people think. And if I'm being honest, I didn't think either one of them had it in them.

    RJ is a better defender now than he has ever been in his career. And Pop is letting the horses run. Seriously - did you ever think that you would see the Spurs run an alley-oop play that didn't land someone in the doghouse?

    Edit: BTW - Jefferson never had a problem performing in the playoffs before. His last couple of seasons in NJ, his numbers actually went up in the postseason.

    Also, Jefferson was always one of the best players in the league at getting to the FT line. Last year, that stat dropped off the map. It's not that he suddenly couldn't draw a foul. It was about the way the Spurs offense runs, and how he was featured. He just wasn't able to play his game. It will never be the same for him here, but now he is at least getting enough opportunities. He deserves some credit for accepting that compromise, too. Like Manu coming off the bench for so long, it takes some personal sacrifice.
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    The RJ hating bandwagon disappeared reallllllllllllllly quick this season. Every other hate group is still around (bonner, pop, tp/manu).

    All aboard
    Pretty hard to keep a hating bandwagon going when the guy is playing the best basketball of his career.

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    As soon as we acquired RJ, I knew it would take a while for a player like him, to be comfortable in the Spur's system, and then improve the well-being of that system. But there was never a doubt in my mind that RJ would contribute on a big scale, given some time to settle in.

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    However, Jefferson's problem last year was that he was a massive liability in the playoffs and completely folded under pressure, while providing nothing on the defensive end..his true test will obviously be in May and June, if the Spurs make it that far..
    Funny that you say this... he won the most important game on the Mavs series on their floor for us... that ain't choking. The rest of the Spurs didn't do anything vs. the Suns either if you bring that up.

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    Funny that you say this... he won the most important game on the Mavs series on their floor for us... that ain't choking. The rest of the Spurs didn't do anything vs. the Suns either if you bring that up.
    Was just about to say this^^^^^^^

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    i love how the last 10 plays or so were all penetration and kick out to the corners and worked every time.
    That was my favorite part of the game as well. Sean Elliott was right--they just needed to move the ball. Maybe that's what they'll get out of this game. Once they did that, they stopped whining to the refs and started being the aggressors.

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    RJ played fabulous.

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    Why do people think he is a ?

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    Why do people think he is a ?

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    I gotta agree, its been fun seeing short sighted rj haters eating crow, wit a side o' .

    In second half of the season and playoffs, rj already played better, last year. On top of that if you add the restructred contract, a full summer and training camp with the team. Its not much of a surprise he has played as he has so far. What is the shocking is how clutch he is, I mean, in several games this year, he has drained dagger threes on multiple occasions. Didnt know he had that in his game.

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    30 year old most improved player?

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    I hate to say this, but they all look gay in that pic. I don't give a damn though and never have. I just want him to play ball.

    I can see him coming out way after his career ends if true though

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    RJ one of my favorite players for many years....since the 2003 season man it would be great to see him with a ring....

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    30 year old most improved player?
    so what hedo was too at 29...

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    Funny that you say this... he won the most important game on the Mavs series on their floor for us... that ain't choking. The rest of the Spurs didn't do anything vs. the Suns either if you bring that up.
    Jefferson was a complete non-factor in 4 of the 6 games against the Mavs..he was pretty good in the other 2 games, but he was a disappointment for the most part..he was the 6th best Spur in that series..

    Against the Suns, sure, nobody had a great series, because the Spurs got swept..however, Jefferson was one of the worst players on the entire Spurs roster, and one of the main differences is that he literally wasn't being covered for most of these games, unlike the big 3..

    Dudley said that the Suns strategy was to leave him open and make him beat them with his jump shot, and he couldn't deliver..

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    No one ever hated on RJ, no one ever abandoned the Heat and no one doubted the Heat if they win it all. There it's settled, everyone is a ing liar.

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