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    Defensively, he may try to stop Parker, but keep in mind how tight they are calling contact on the perimeter this post-season. Roughing up parker on the perimeter may not work this year.
    I'm sorry, but I have to disagree, unless the refs are racist. Parker has been hand checking Nash up and down the court with it being called.

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    you don't think a three point shooter that was second best in the league at almost fifty percent might make a difference?
    Johnson is probably the best 3pt shooter, not second best. Hoiberg shot .5% better, but Johnson averaged over twice as many attempts per game (4.5 to 1.9). Johnson also averaged over twice as many minutes per game.

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    Parker may be hand checking, but Steve Nash is one of the worst players I've seen for a while at pushing off with his off arm. Not to mention his outrageously illegal hesitation dribble combined with the quick foot shuffle to fake out defenders.

    And before some Suns says "Oh I guess the Spurs never do anything wrong", Parker and Ginobili get away with loads of travels and carrys, but Nash's ones are just so damn obvious.

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    I'm sorry, but I have to disagree, unless the refs are racist. Parker has been hand checking Nash up and down the court with it being called.
    It seems to me that the officials have been pretty consistent about allowing an extended arm on the perimeter, but calling a bent arm most of the time. They'll certainly let more go at this stage of the playoffs, but they've been pretty strict on calling that bent arm. Parker has played Nash with an extended arm for most of this series, so that's not going to be called.

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    It seems to me that the officials have been pretty consistent about allowing an extended arm on the perimeter, but calling a bent arm most of the time. They'll certainly let more go at this stage of the playoffs, but they've been pretty strict on calling that bent arm. Parker has played Nash with an extended arm for most of this series, so that's not going to be called.
    Extended is worse than bent, imo. The idea of the hand check rule was the prevent the pressure that often hinders offense. Above the free throw line you cannot touch the offensive player.

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    Parker may be hand checking, but Steve Nash is one of the worst players I've seen for a while at pushing off with his off arm. Not to mention his outrageously illegal hesitation dribble combined with the quick foot shuffle to fake out defenders.

    And before some Suns says "Oh I guess the Spurs never do anything wrong", Parker and Ginobili get away with loads of travels and carrys, but Nash's ones are just so damn obvious.

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    Typical. So you can see some agressive defense by Parker out on the floor bordering on illegal, but you can't see what Nash does?

    If you can't see the shuffling of Nash's feet and his pushing off then you are not watching. I can see Parker's massive carry everytime he is running full speed and switches the ball from his right hand to his left. I can see his jump stops followed by another step. I can see Tim lifting his pivot foot and shuffling his feet occasionally in the post. If it is there it is there, whether or not the players plays for your team or not.

    But whatever, continue being blind to obvious stuff.


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    I, for one, am looking forward to a full complement of Suns on the court. This will at last expell all those lingering doubts about the Spurs dominance. Personally, I'd like to see the Suns throw everyone into the fray.
    Don't believe for a minute that the Spurs are unprepared. Johnson back in the lineup? Makes no difference. The Spurs are not in awe of anyone, as well they should not. They will play their game, no matter what. As far as I can see, there are a great number of people who are giving creds to this or that opponent, while failing to see the great talent of individual Spurs.
    Stop worrying about who's on the floor for the Suns. The guys putting the ball on the floor wearing Spurs uniforms are great. Trust in them and stop worrying about the other guys...

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    Typical. So you can see some agressive defense by Parker out on the floor bordering on illegal, but you can't see what Nash does?

    If you can't see the shuffling of Nash's feet and his pushing off then you are not watching. I can see Parker's massive carry everytime he is running full speed and switches the ball from his right hand to his left. I can see his jump stops followed by another step. I can see Tim lifting his pivot foot and shuffling his feet occasionally in the post. If it is there it is there, whether or not the players plays for your team or not.

    But whatever, continue being blind to obvious stuff.

    Dude, it's one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Nash is pushing off with his arms? Nash is always traveling? But you can justify it by saying that Manu, Parker and Timmy do the same things and get away with it? If that's how you feel, why does it matter??

    And "the aggressive defense" by Parker is illegal--not borderline illegal. It's a new rule enforced this year.

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    The Spurs are not in awe of anyone, as well they should not.
    The Suns aren't in awe of Bowen, but he does what's expected. The Spurs won't be in awe of Johnson, doesn't mean he won't have an impact.

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    Where did I say always? Where did I say arms? He pushes off with his off arm to get a gap between he and his defender. Almost every good guard does it, but sometimes it's so outrageously obvious and it never seems to get called. The carry on the hesitation dribble is obvious too, and if you can't see that your eyes are ed.

    By the way, what Parker is doing to Nash is no more illegal than what Nash does off the dribble with his pushing and hesitation, that is why I bring it up, that is why it matters. You can complain about one thing but are oblivious to the fact that your PG gets away with a few little things to.

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