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my god, i'm going all peewee's lovechild with the nonstop one sentence replies.
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that list is sad beyond belief. i was seriously waiting to see Webber on there.
He was probably 2 or 3 names away from listing Peja.
Honestly, and forgive me while I go all GNSF for a second, I don't see why Cubes would be even suggesting this. I know he loves Dirk, but insisting that Dirk will go down amongst the elite all-time only seems to paint Cuban in an even more negative light due to his inability to bring a 'chip to DAL.
the past two decades:
better: Shaq, Duncan, and Kobe definitely.
in the discussion with dirk: Wade, Lebron, TMAC, Kidd ...
I think a le may push wade over if he finishes his carer strong and Wade wins more and dirk none ...but Some of you guys are underrating dirk, here. Of course Cuban is overrating him ...but dirk deserves respect. Now Im here in dallas and watch almost as mant Mavs games as Laker games it has confirmed what i already knew offensively dirk is a badass and he has improved on defense (yes he used to suck) and as a passer ...
mav fan perspective
1st decade of this century
1. 2000
2. 2001
3. 2002
4. 2003
5. 2004
6. 2005
7. 2006
8. 2007
9. 2008
10. 2009
hes easily top ten in this decade. (2010-)
it's just Cuban. His love for Dirk is borderline sexual. Dirk winning MVP was like Cuban's happiest moment in his life.
My with the goods
List is terrible, but you could have put KG instead of Jordan if you were desperate enough.
even blue named mav fan knows thats mostly true.
he'd most likely be hyping Nash in a similar manner had he stayed and won a ring with Dirk.
I'd put him in the top 20, and he's probably the second or third best player without a ring I can think of off the top of my head.
Barkley
Malone
Stockton
Kevin Johnson
Ewing
I might be wrong, but I don't think Gasol has ever gotten one single MVP vote in the history of ever.
I like him as a choice over Dirk though.
I would put him probably behind Barkley and Stockton. I would say probably even with Malone and better than Ewing and Johnson.
To be fair, KJ and Ewing played in a much tougher era
I'd have to agree here. I actually work at the AAC, so I get to go in and see some Mavs games, and Dirk is definitely a great player. A beast offensively and has gotten better defensively. And he knows he's good. Just puts up contested/guarded jumpers and starts walking back before they go in, with an ugly ass smile on his face.
Johnnson and Ewing?? No
Still I think be had a better career overall than those two, maybe in a year or so he'll pass Malone.
Add Kobe and Shaq to the list of great players who have never won a legit le.
KG was a beast in his prime.
KG and Dirk is very debatable. KG's first 10 years was greater than Dirk's first 10. Dirk is more a catalyst for his Mavs than KG, but KG is being considered a dpoy favorite this year. That would be 2 dpoy in the last 4 years. Really impressive also.Duncan you have a point because of his dominance and rings. But KG??? lol
Dirk is not even top 20 this past decade. Add to Darthkiller's list:
Chris Paul
T-Mac
Vince Carter
Dwight Howard
Chris Webber
Jermaine O'Neal
Billy Hoyle
Jenny Jones
Nate Robinson
JJ Re
Not in Dallas, he won't.
It will take at least 2 rings for him to even sniff the top 20.
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