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    Timvp says: "Defense Gameplan against Knicks"

    LOL, good one Timvp, damn funny!
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    if popovich did this on purpose, he's crazier than i thought. he just showed the rest of the league how to beat the spurs.
    The rest of the league isn't capable of playing that style of ball tbh.

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    I haven't really noticed that weakness. Other examples?
    Caron Butler lit us up for 3 quarters. Melo in our first game against Denver (although admittedly he lights everyone up). Beasley from Minne.

    My point is that we don't have anyone to guard big SFs who are also quick. RJ can try but usually fails. Trapping works sometimes but not always. Bonner/Dice/Grizzly are too slow. Manu/George/Neal are too small. JA is an incomplete.

    We really need a long, quick, 6'8-9" guy committed to D to throw at those big, quick tweener forwards IMHO.

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    The rest of the league isn't capable of playing that style of ball tbh.
    If the Spurs played the exact same game as they played tonight, they would come out on top of the Knicks 3/4 of the time. And if you stop to think about it, you know it's true.

    The Knicks scored 128 tonight - second only to the 129 they put on Denver. Sorry, but SA and Denver aren't the two worst defensive teams they have faced this year. That's the nature of a D'Antoni team. When they're really on, they can outscore anyone. What happened tonight was that we didn't defend well AND the Knicks were in the zone shooting. But heavy on being in the zone shooting.

    Think about it this way: Did it feel like the Spurs scored 115 tonight? Does it seem like they did anything special on the offensive end? Nope. It will be a lot easier for us to score 115 on them next time, than for them to score 128 on us again.

    The Knicks played well, accept the loss. Don't try to read too much into what it says about the team or the season.


    Caron Butler lit us up for 3 quarters. Melo in our first game against Denver (although admittedly he lights everyone up). Beasley from Minne.

    My point is that we don't have anyone to guard big SFs who are also quick. RJ can try but usually fails. Trapping works sometimes but not always. Bonner/Dice/Grizzly are too slow. Manu/George/Neal are too small. JA is an incomplete.

    We really need a long, quick, 6'8-9" guy committed to D to throw at those big, quick tweener forwards IMHO.
    We need a Robert Horry, but I don't know where to get one. But even at that, it's usually not enough to beat this team. The Knicks have 3 of them, and they were all on their game. I'll take my chances against this team in a 7 game series.

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    Yeah they need to get that guy for the 2 games against the KNicks and 2 against Orlando.
    We, there are others, but it's a decent point. With Butler gone, our biggest threats in the West (Fakers/Mavs) don't really attack from the SF. Green at OKC could be a problem but we seem to defend him well.

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    We, there are others, but it's a decent point. With Butler gone, our biggest threats in the West (Fakers/Mavs) don't really attack from the SF. Green at OKC could be a problem but we seem to defend him well.

    Didn't mean to come off ish, but, again its gone from a position of dire need, to now, eh, luxury position honestly.


    Butler? I think they've guarded him well he's just a good player.

    Green, Blair played him well the other night and I don't think is a problem player as much.

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    For mine, Chandler presents the biggest worry - we have no-one outside of RJ who even has a hope of keeping up with him.

    Like I've said a number of times, the long tweener 3s really present a problem for this roster. It is the one glaring hole. I wonder if James Anderson might have had more success?
    I was actually wondering the same thing during the telecast. All this talk about where JA would fit when he returns is hogwash. The Spurs could've used him tonight - on both ends of the court.

    In the meantime, this was the worst defensive effort of the season. Perhaps of the past 5 years.

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    All I know is that the decision to go under the screens made me want to puke. I probably ed so much about that my neighbors got sick of hearing it.

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    Also, in particular one double team late in the game really pissed me off. Manu doubled Amare at the elbow in a position where it was IMPOSSIBLE to cut him off and of course he made an easy pass to the corner. Doubling in the high post is just re ed IMO. Its so easy to hit open cutters and shooters from there.

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    Knicks shot lights out. IMHO it was more the Knicks catching fire than the SPurs playing ty D.

    SPurs going under the screen was to prevent Felton penetration and then the easy dump off pass to Amare, which he always kills the Spurs with.

    Amare is a defensive gameplan nightmare for spurs, same as w the Suns...you guard the pass or guard the shooter on the p&r, spurs guarded the pass and Felton burned them.

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    How bout let amare get his but clamp up on everybody. (Everybody?) EVERYBODY!!!!

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    How bout let amare get his but clamp up on everybody. (Everybody?) EVERYBODY!!!!
    Amare had 28

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    Going over the screen and a mixture of hedging and switching would have been the smartest option to take.

    While Felton has improved considerably this year, he is not the most creative player in the game of basketball.


    Moving foward the Spurs should work on becoming less predictable defensively. The days of strangling the life out of teams are over. We need to move towards a variety of defensive systems and matchups to make teams question their very existence and desire to play basketball.

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    Spurs actually hedge on the screen all the time. But what big man on the spurs is fast enough to hedge the ball and get back to defend a cutter like Amare?

    As far as switching goes, why would you want Tp or hill guarding Amare, or Tim or other big man out guarding a perimeter player? Again the spurs big men are too slow, you might as well go under the screen as one dribble move and the perimeter player is wide open again.

    When it comes to Amare and defending him in the P&R, its really pick your poison.

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    Jefferson on Amare? He will post him up but hmm.....

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    I thought Blair was playing well. I haven't looked at the stats but it seemed like the score was always close when he was in the game. Or closer, I should say.

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    poor perimeter defense... ripped by pick&rolls...

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    To me honestly, it felt they didn't want to win the game from tip off. THEY DIDN"T EVEN TRY TO DEFEND.

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    This might have been the worst defenisive game I have seen under the Pop regime. I was almost sick to my stomach watching the Knicks score at will the entire game. Does anyone know how many times during the game the Knicks went three possessions without scoring? I started to pay attention in the 3rd qtr because the Spurs could never make up any ground on the 4 to 11 point lead. I was waiting for the spurs to stop them on successive possessions and it RARELY happened. I do not think at anytime in the second half they went three possessions wiht out a point. It was DISGUSTING

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    At first i thought it was pop's attempt to pace this team in light of the back-to-back. I thought cool, he's gonna try and win both games. But when the 4th came around and the d was no better, I didnt know what to think, it was kinda like they were moving in slo mo, or like their plane had just landed and didnt get a chance to warm up. Just hope they still have enough in the tank for tonight, they should considering they didnt play any D, right?

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