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  1. #26
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    Do you know of many current NBA superstars that are hurting for money? I can name a good list of guys that are overpaid for their services. You've decided to nitpick and separate my statement, but dividing those sentences wasn't the intent of what I'd written. The NBA, yes, is a business set out to make money like any other enterprise. Each team vies for the le. It's sad to think there are a number of players that are more content with paydays and bright lights than reaching the ultimate prize. In some way, this is actually a credit to Ron Artest. My balls hurt writing that.
    "Not hurting for money" and "Not wanting more money" are two very different things.

    I just don't completely understand your opinion is what it comes down to. Sure it might make for more entertaining basketball, I get that. But if you want to watch games where exposure and money aren't a consideration you're pretty much limited to HS ball.

    I don't think I'll ever understand the hating for players chasing economic opportunities. They're employees. It's a job. They don't take a vow of poverty or reasonable salary upon draft day, they find out which team will pay them money for their talents.

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    "Not hurting for money" and "Not wanting more money" are two very different things.

    I just don't completely understand your opinion is what it comes down to. Sure it might make for more entertaining basketball, I get that. But if you want to watch games where exposure and money aren't a consideration you're pretty much limited to HS ball.

    I don't think I'll ever understand the hating for players chasing economic opportunities. They're employees. It's a job. They don't take a vow of poverty or reasonable salary upon draft day, they find out which team will pay them money for their talents.
    It comes from guys that are eschewing good opportunities to compete for a le to rather have their name in bright lights instead.

    Is this an economic opportunity for Carmelo? Maybe. There should be more marketing opportunities for him in NY and under Stalin, but there gets to be a point where you have enough money (unless you're Antoine Walker) and a guy's pride should come more from having bested the game.

  3. #28
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    Oh for sure, there is a definitely a point where you have 'enough' money and you can do whatever the you want.

    I'm definitely not going to mock my Dad for selling his company and retiring early to be a stay at home dad, for instance.

    I just don't get the hate for NBA players collecting a paycheck, really. But those players taking less money are the heralded minority, not the majority. They also tend to be old(by NBA standards) and at the very edge or just past their prime, and their days of earning big money are usually over.

    As far as pride, I think most players who only play well during contract years and then slack off are the ones that should be publicly shamed. If George Hill gets a max contract from Cleveland, and takes it solely for the money? But still plays his heart out? Good for him. But Shaq, SJax showing up to training camp fat, and taking entire seasons off? them.

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    You forget that a lot of these "superstar" players have massive, massive egos. So while Carmelo might realize he needs some help, I bet you he thinks he can be the franchise player around which a championship can be built. So I'm guessing in his mind, he thinks that he can change the fortunes of the Nets as "the guy." Being in the New York market is obviously a factor, but I don't think whatever team he's traded to, he'd think they'd stay a "bad" team for long.

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    I never buy the idea that Stern is behind all these transactions. It's simply ignorant at best. If this is the case, then why are the Knicks in the basement for so long? Why are the Celtics prior to the assemply of the "Big 3" were in the gutter for so long?
    The Knicks have been horribly mismanaged for years. From their idiotic owner to the Isiah Thomas fiasco. They are just now beginning to dig out of the mess they created themselves. As far as Boston is concerned, the NBA struggled without Boston, NY, or Philly being relavant. With Boston being a championship contender the all important East Coast market is somewhat alive again.


    Remind me why Stern ordered his referees to gave Miami the edge in 2006 to beat that larger market in Dallas? Common sense would tell you that if Stern wants the larger market to prosper then its a no brainer to help Dallas who arguably has the best owner in the league..

    Have you not been paying attention to the Stern/Cuban wars the past several years? Stern absolutely hates Cuban, and vice versa.


    Stern has made some questionable decisions as Commissioner throughout his tenure in the association, but I'm baffled to read posts from people thinking he's behind all these dubious player destination transactions that takes place.
    Continue to be baffled I guess.

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    jjktkk, would'nt you agree then that the teams who have prospered are more likely because they have outstanding personnel running the show and an owner with deep pockets willing to splurge rather than Stern handing them gifts?



    I dont deny that there are shakehand deals going on behind the scenes from other GM's but I dont find any evidence that Stern has a hand in any deal. But that's just my opinion.

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    jjktkk, would'nt you agree then that the teams who have prospered are more likely because they have outstanding personnel running the show and an owner with deep pockets willing to splurge rather than Stern handing them gifts?



    I dont deny that there are shakehand deals going on behind the scenes from other GM's but I dont find any evidence that Stern has a hand in any deal. But that's just my opinion.
    The problem with the NBA, NFL, MLB, is there are the haves, and have nots. The haves are usually the big market teams,and the have nots, are the small market teams. I just wish there was more parity. Not knocking any Heat fans, but to be able to sign 3 max guys is unfair imo.

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    While true that it's not fair that one team can sign 3 max players, it brings the NBA the true villian that everyone loves to hate. The 2000-2002 Lakers used to be that team because they were such a force to deal with, now it's the Heat

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    The problem with the NBA, NFL, MLB, is there are the haves, and have nots. The haves are usually the big market teams,and the have nots, are the small market teams. I just wish there was more parity. Not knocking any Heat fans, but to be able to sign 3 max guys is unfair imo.
    Shut up. You closed The Forum. + you got the best record this season.

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    Shut up. You closed The Forum. + you got the best record this season.
    The Spurs are the one true exception to the rule. The Spurs were extremely lucky to win the lottery twice and each time got a HOFer.

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    It's not luck when Pop ordered the tank.

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Blessings x 21

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    Clippers aren't a good team, located in LA but not having a big market. LA is entirely propertied by the Lakers imo, clippers only get some scraps at best

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    U have my perm. to die The Batman's Avatar
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    On another note, Sean Elliott confirmed his gayness last game

    "I have to control myself when it comes to him" - in reference to Duncan

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    It's not luck when Pop ordered the tank.
    Not even touching the tank thing with a ten foot pole, but the spurs only had a 21.4 chance of the #1 pick.

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    Blessings needs to take it easy on the model glue.

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