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  1. #26
    Bernoullin' niggas! BUMP's Avatar
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    Darrell Russell was 2x All NFL, Charles Woodson plus a host of other All Pros and whatnot. They had a young Woodson, Asomugha, Phillip Buchanon, Ray Buchanan, Eric Allen and Marques Pope all on the field at once in the secondary then. The middle was filled with guys like Biekert and Coleman and they had Russell and Upshaw and the like up front.
    lolwut?

    Rob Ryan didn't become defensive coordinator until 2004. The guys I bolded weren't even on the team when he was coordinator and most not even in the NFL. And Ray Buchanan was in his last season during Ryan's first year as coordinator.


    Case in point - Ware has zero reason to be named pro bowl this year especially over Briggs and Urlcher and Fletcher and Tuck.


    this is especially re ed. I'll be the first to say that Ware didn't have a typical Ware like season, but he still led the NFL in sacks. I don't know how a guy like that, especially with his reputation, has any chance of being left out.

  2. #27
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    Ryan's best pass rusher in Cleveland was Marcus Benard, a former undrafted free agent. Not a bad player but certainly not dominant, not even an every-down starter. If he's got some studs to rush the passer he might not feel the need to take chances with the blitz.

  3. #28
    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    I don't think Ware is the best talent Ryan's ever had because I think Ware is vastly overrated.
    Of course you do...you think anyone who has wore a Star on their helmet since 1960 is vastly overrated.

    Right now, Ware is nothing more than a perrineal all pro
    yeah because that is a bad thing.

  4. #29
    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    Yah; he lead the NFL in sack but wasn't in the top 100 in tackles.

    He's just as good as Elvis Dumervil.

    You know the best comparison to Ware? Shawn Merriman. Wasn't he the best defensive player ever in the NFL around 2006?

    Flame all you want; you can't prove me wrong for another 3 or 4 years, anyway. By that time I will be long over saying, 'I told you so' when skeletor fans are riding him out of town (which is exactly where the RW mention ties in).

  5. #30
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    Yah; he lead the NFL in sack but wasn't in the top 100 in tackles.

    He's just as good as Elvis Dumervil.

    You know the best comparison to Ware? Shawn Merriman. Wasn't he the best defensive player ever in the NFL around 2006?

    Flame all you want; you can't prove me wrong for another 3 or 4 years, anyway. By that time I will be long over saying, 'I told you so' when skeletor fans are riding him out of town (which is exactly where the RW mention ties in).


    Cool story bro

    lol guy leading the NFL in sacks doesn't deserve to go to the pro bowl

  6. #31
    Win. Whatever it Takes Whisky Dog's Avatar
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    Ware is a beast and changes the game with his presence and ability. Many D coordinators have gone on record saying this but he sucks because Capt Mike says so.

    I admittedly don't know about this Ryan. Hope he works out and they're successful, but IMO as long as Jerry is the GM and making player decisions we'll be inconsistent and mediocre. It's just our fate.

  7. #32
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    LOL @ saying a guy who has led the NFL in sacks twice in his 6 year career being "nothing more than a perrineal all pro". 80 sacks in his first 6 seasons. Lawrence Taylor had 71 in his first season, counting the "unofficial" 9.5 his rookie year.

  8. #33
    OH YOU LIKE IT!!! slick'81's Avatar
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    good hire for big d well qualified and will bring an at ude to the d

  9. #34
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    My point was Ryan had plenty of talent, albiet maybe not someone who hasn't proven to be more than a flash in the pan, yet. Right now, everyone thinks he is the bee's knees because he plays for skeletor, i.e. Roy Williams making pro bowls when he couldn't cover my deceased grandma, Romo making the pro bowl after playing 5 games, and the annual cowgirls of arlington love fest that happens.

    Case in point - Ware has zero reason to be named pro bowl this year especially over Briggs and Urlcher and Fletcher and Tuck; but he did because of the uniform he wears. Just like all RW ever did was make a drmatic hit when the WR already caught the ball (couldn't cover) Ware either makes the sack or watches the play go by him - he's all pursuit and no tackle.

    I don't think Ware is the best talent Ryan's ever had because I think Ware is vastly overrated.
    @ this whole post

  10. #35
    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    Major Mike just might be the worst poster on spurstalk.

  11. #36
    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    O-ver-ra-ted, clap, clap, clapclapclap

  12. #37
    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    Major Mike just might be the worst poster on spurstalk.
    No way. I would not trade Jefferson for Carmelo.

  13. #38
    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

  14. #39
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    LOL @ saying a guy who has led the NFL in sacks twice in his 6 year career being "nothing more than a perrineal all pro". 80 sacks in his first 6 seasons. Lawrence Taylor had 71 in his first season, counting the "unofficial" 9.5 his rookie year.
    I love D-Ware too, but lets not get crazy. Taylor was DPOY his rookie year (only player ever to win it their first year) and then to prove that wasn't a fluke he won it again the next year. By his sixth year in the league he had a still unbeaten record of 3 DPOYs, an MVP, and a ring. Don't embarrass Ware by comparing him to LT, it just shows your ignorance of 1980s era football tbh.

  15. #40
    Bernoullin' niggas! BUMP's Avatar
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    Major Mike just might be the worst poster on spurstalk.
    Not anymore

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

  16. #41
    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts
    wow, just wow

  17. #42
    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    Dallas Mavericks

  18. #43
    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    and Houston Rockets

    Overrating Carmelo because of your little crush, hoping he will come to your team and give you something called hope, which he will actually destroy.

  19. #44
    I believe in yesterday Zelophehad's Avatar
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    rocket fan joining in the clowning

  20. #45
    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    and Houston Rockets

    Overrating Carmelo because of your little crush, hoping he will come to your team and give you something called hope, which he will actually destroy.
    lol how in the can you destroy hope when you don't have any? Yeah, because Melo on the Spurs would make them worse

  21. #46
    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    You continue to prove my point.
    So fun to watch the dying flail.

  22. #47
    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    He would make them worse. Carmelo is pouting about not being in New York. He knows the new CBA is going to screw him over and on top of all that he is a horrible defender. I never said Jefferson is the better player I would just rather stick with what the spurs have which has led to the best record in the league and not have a player like Carmelo destroy the chemistry they have going.

    Back on topic I think Rob Ryan is a good hire and I hope he brings confidence to the Cowboys Defense like Rex did in NY. Anyone who thinks D-ware is not one of the best players in the NFL doesn't know a thing about football.

  23. #48
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    Of course you do...you think anyone who has wore a Star on their helmet since 1960 is vastly overrated
    No; Dez is the real deal.

  24. #49
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    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

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    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

    And I still wouldn't trade Jefferson for Carmelo. It's called Chemistry and Carmelo destroys it. You continue to prove my point. How long did you have to search through my posts

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    No; Dez is the real deal.
    Jesus Christ you are a ing re . Ware is over rated and Dez is the real deal? Those two statements are just plain dumb.

    Dez has potential to be great but he will get in his own way so he is not the "real deal". The only reason you say that is because of the OSU banner you have flying in your avatar.

    Ware is one of the best, if not the best, pass rusher in the game. He is not over rated by any means. I don't think he's a sure fire hall of famer but he is an elite defensive player today.

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