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    Cavs are smart...trying to get the #1 draft pick again.
    Unfortunately there is no LeBron James to draft this time.

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    Now it's 20 straight, and 5th all-time in the consecutive loss list. Next up is Miami tomorrow with a chance for 21 and 4th all-time, but I'm a little worried about James in pressure games.

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    Why even bother showing up? I'm sure Gilbert would love to save on those charter planes and what not. The new CBA has to address such blatant tanking somehow.

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    Why even bother showing up? I'm sure Gilbert would love to save on those charter planes and what not. The new CBA has to address such blatant tanking somehow.
    It's hard to call it tanking when the two best players on a team are Boobie Gibson and Antoine Jamison. Which of these teams that they're losing to should they beat? Cleveland has one of the worst rosters I have ever seen, not even factoring in their injuries. On top of that, James cut all their hearts out and nailed them to the tree of woe. Hence, you have a bunch of untalented players lacking motivation and the recipe for a season of spectacular failure.

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    It's hard to call it tanking when the two best players on a team are Boobie Gibson and Antoine Jamison. Which of these teams that they're losing to should they beat? Cleveland has one of the worst rosters I have ever seen, not even factoring in their injuries. On top of that, James cut all their hearts out and nailed them to the tree of woe. Hence, you have a bunch of untalented players lacking motivation and the recipe for a season of spectacular failure.
    You would think that with the money they saved from James, they could pay a max contract to somebody. The problem is that the league is watered down. Not enough actual 'stars' for teams, and it's even worse when you collude to put two or three 'stars' in the same team. Both issues should be tackled in a future CBA. Killing a couple of teams should happen. Making sure teams don't outright get away with such deals should happen also.

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    You would think that with the money they saved from James, they could pay a max contract to somebody. The problem is that the league is watered down. Not enough actual 'stars' for teams, and it's even worse when you collude to put two or three 'stars' in the same team. Both issues should be tackled in a future CBA. Killing a couple of teams should happen. Making sure teams don't outright get away with such deals should happen also.
    Wasn't James one of the last dominoes to fall though? Amare was off the market, so was Joe Johnson, Gay got locked down immediately, Dirk re-upped pretty quickly, they weren't going to pull Pierce nor Allen off a championship team, and no way they'd want to give big money to David Lee. And Boozer obviously wasn't going to happen after the fiasco between them in 2004.

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    Worst Cleveland sports team I've ever seen, and I've seen some really awful teams over the last quarter-century. This team makes the 2002-03 Cavaliers look like the 1986-87 Lakers.

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    Wasn't James one of the last dominoes to fall though? Amare was off the market, so was Joe Johnson, Gay got locked down immediately, Dirk re-upped pretty quickly, they weren't going to pull Pierce nor Allen off a championship team, and no way they'd want to give big money to David Lee. And Boozer obviously wasn't going to happen after the fiasco between them in 2004.
    Like I said, not enough stars on a watered down league. If there would have been less teams that could've been able to sign James and a few other stars, then Cleveland wouldn't have needed to put up with The Decision or wait until the last second.

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    Like I said, not enough stars on a watered down league. If there would have been less teams that could've been able to sign James and a few other stars, then Cleveland wouldn't have needed to put up with The Decision or wait until the last second.
    The league could stand to maybe chop Charlotte and the Clippers, but that had nothing to do with Cleveland's situation. Cleveland made stupid decisions in the front office, such as passing on Stoudemire to keep a mediocre talent like Hickson, signing dime a dozen players like Varejao, Moon, and Parker instead of saving capspace for someone good, and trading Ben Wallace's huge expiring for a completely done O'Neal. Not to mention trying to con Boozer into a mid-level deal only to have him turn around and screw them back in 2004. Or what about their draft blunders like Luke Jackson? The Cavs front office has no one to blame but themselves for the ty team they're putting out on the floor. Can anyone honestly say James made the wrong decision after seeing this garbage?

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    The league could stand to maybe chop Charlotte and the Clippers, but that had nothing to do with Cleveland's situation. Cleveland made stupid decisions in the front office, such as passing on Stoudemire to keep a mediocre talent like Hickson, signing dime a dozen players like Varejao, Moon, and Parker instead of saving capspace for someone good, and trading Ben Wallace's huge expiring for a completely done O'Neal. Not to mention trying to con Boozer into a mid-level deal only to have him turn around and screw them back in 2004. Or what about their draft blunders like Luke Jackson? The Cavs front office has no one to blame but themselves for the ty team they're putting out on the floor. Can anyone honestly say James made the wrong decision after seeing this garbage?
    There's no realistic way that Stoudemire chooses Cleveland over NY. And that is part of the problem too. I don't take blame away from Cleveland, but there's also the fact that there's not enough star players for every team, especially if there's room for certain teams to have 2-3 stars at once.

    And Cleveland wasn't the only team that got jobbed. Toronto is basically in the same situation. They just have a better, younger core with DeRozan, etc.

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    passing on Stoudemire to keep a mediocre talent like Hickson
    First off, if you've got information showing it was Cleveland that backed out of a Stoudamire deal and not Phoenix, I'd like to see it. Not a challenge- I just honestly don't know which side backed out.

    Even if Cleveland had consummated that deal they'd be left with no LeBron and no Stoudamire. STAT would have been a half-season rental and LeBron was gone regardless IMO. There is no Plan B when you lose a LeBron James.

    This team blew its shot to build a champion around LeBron in one week during the summer of 2004 when it drafted Luke Jackson and let Carlos Boozer walk. It was scramble mode from then on. When you're Cleveland you HAVE to build through the draft. You aren't going to get top-level free agents to come here.

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    First off, if you've got information showing it was Cleveland that backed out of a Stoudamire deal and not Phoenix, I'd like to see it. Not a challenge- I just honestly don't know which side backed out.

    Even if Cleveland had consummated that deal they'd be left with no LeBron and no Stoudamire. STAT would have been a half-season rental and LeBron was gone regardless IMO. There is no Plan B when you lose a LeBron James.

    This team blew its shot to build a champion around LeBron in one week during the summer of 2004 when it drafted Luke Jackson and let Carlos Boozer walk. It was scramble mode from then on. When you're Cleveland you HAVE to build through the draft. You aren't going to get top-level free agents to come here.
    I guess I could be wrong about them backing out. I thought I remembered hearing extensively that they didn't want to give up Hickson, and thus went with the ty Washington deal instead. Assuming it could have happened, Stoudemire would have been a worthwhile gamble even without the guarantee of re-signing. If that could have delivered a le, then no way either of them walks. If it doesn't, then losing Hickson is no big deal anyways. Plus Cleveland has the Bird Rights on Amare and at least a chance to have a second star next to James; that would have been a lot harder to walk away from.

    In the end, spilled milk I guess. Hopefully they can end up with Kyrie Irving and maybe another good player the year after. After Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker are gone I'll be rooting for the Spurs to have 15 win seasons too so they can build with the draft.

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    I heard that to BB, but I think both parties kind of fizzled out. What I don't get is why people seem to be rooting against CLE now? I don't hate CLE and I don't get why anyone else would, especially with people hating Lebron more than ever.

    Maybe it's just me, but it just feels like people really are rooting against CLE.

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    I heard that to BB, but I think both parties kind of fizzled out. What I don't get is why people seem to be rooting against CLE now? I don't hate CLE and I don't get why anyone else would, especially with people hating Lebron more than ever.

    Maybe it's just me, but it just feels like people really are rooting against CLE.
    I like to see records set. I rooted against the Lions too. Plus their owner is a moron.

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    I heard that to BB, but I think both parties kind of fizzled out. What I don't get is why people seem to be rooting against CLE now? I don't hate CLE and I don't get why anyone else would, especially with people hating Lebron more than ever.

    Maybe it's just me, but it just feels like people really are rooting against CLE.
    There's some legit reasons to hate on the Cavs, including Mo Williams talking out of his ass while he was coattaling Lebron, and Dan Gilbert being a moron.

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    There's some legit reasons to hate on the Cavs, including Mo Williams talking out of his ass while he was coattaling Lebron, and Dan Gilbert being a moron.
    Too bad Mo isn't having to eat this sandwich on the floor every night. Do they still play that stupid Godfather theme when he hits a shot?

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    Wade's nailing their asses to the tree of woe: 24 points with 6:00 left in the second.

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    CROFL @ Puffy and Rick Ross being interviewed live during the game. Bandwagoning mother er. I was disappointed that Rick Ross doesn't really talk like he does on the forum.

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    LeBron says he wishes Cavs ‘the best’
    By Tim Reynolds

    LeBron James sees no reason to enjoy Cleveland’s epic struggles this season.

    And it doesn’t give him a sense of vindication, either.

    Speaking before the Miami Heat faced the Cavaliers on Monday night, James says Cleveland’s descent from a championship contender to the NBA’s worst team does nothing to prove that he made the right choice in joining up with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in South Florida.

    Cleveland entered Monday on a 20-game losing streak and brought an 8-39 record into the contest, the worst mark in the league. With James, the Cavaliers were the among the NBA’s elite, but not even seven months after he made “The Decision,” Cleveland is approaching the league losing-streak record.

    “It didn’t matter for me if the Cavs were going to have a successful season or not,” James said. “I felt like I was making the right choice for me as an individual and for my career. Like I said, I have nothing bad to say about the players that I left and the team. I wish the organization the best. And I wish the fans, more than anything, the best because we had a lot of great years together.”

    Keep Reading...
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...liersstruggles

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    Miami sucks. 5 point game in the third.

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    Halfway there now

    @ Boston - CHECK
    vs Denver - CHECK
    @ Orlando - CHECK
    @ Miami - CHECK
    vs Indiana
    @ Memphis
    vs Portland
    @ Dallas

    21 down, 4 to go. Good for 4th all-time, but the Cavs need to be shooting for that #1 spot.

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    Damn, nasty piece of trivia from the AP article for tonight's game:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_y...gid=2011013114
    MIAMI (AP)—Once again, LeBron James helped the Cleveland Cavaliers reach a milestone in the NBA standings.

    First to 40 wins one year.

    First to 40 losses the next.

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    This Indiana game will be the hurdle for the Cavs... lose this one and the record is within reach.

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    This Indiana game will be the hurdle for the Cavs... lose this one and the record is within reach.
    I have a really bad feeling about the Dallas game...Just like with last year's New Jersey...You just KNOW it's gonna be us who screws this up

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