Why wouldn't you want Bonner back? He spreads the floor and keeps the Bigs minutes under control.
Of course you want Bonner back, but it's definitely good for Blair and Splitter to get some burn while he's out.
I really hope that average Spur fan doesn't believe the Spurs are going to succeed with Bonner getting 20+ minutes in the playoffs. Other teams will exploit that weakness all day long.
Blair and Splitter need to be as ready as possible for the playoffs in case Antonio gets hurt or gets in foul trouble.
Bonner is more valuable to this team then people give him credit for. Simple as that.
The last 3 playoffs have certainly showed his valuableness.
He accounts for 17% of the Spurs' 3 pointers made - that is valuable no doubt. He's also made some big shots in a few games this year - that's good news and hopefully he'll be a weapon for 3pt shooting in the playoffs.
I just wonder if his "floor spacing" value is worth more than interior defense and rebounds. Yes, I'm taking into account his improved rebounding and team defense - overall he's still very average at best in those areas.
Can't wait until Bonner gets back tbh. It's been torturous watching Jeff clank open 3 after open 3. It seems like teams are daring him to shoot. What's weird is he's averaging 3's at 40%. He's basically a poor man's Bowen at this point in the season. I miss the old Jefferson we saw at the beginning of the season who wasn't afraid to slash and was getting to the line consistently.
same could be said about multiple spurs....
Matt Bonner was never "the reason" why we won or lost. It always has been and will be on the big 3.
It's unlikely that Bonner will ever be good enough to win or lose a series for the Spurs, but he definitely hasn't helped their cause in the playoffs. Did Frye or Dudley win the series for the Suns last year? They sure helped.
The Big 3 most likely will not be enough for the Spurs to win a ring again. They're going to need all they can get out of Jefferson, Neal, McDyess and Hill. And I'd bet they will need defensive help and rebounds from Splitter and Blair more than they'll need 20+ minutes of Bonner.
I'm clearly aware that the bench and supporting cast need to play well. To label Bonner as a playoff choker isn't very logical either since the sample size is so small. Bonner's 3 pt shooting has the ability to win or lose games so to say he will be of no use is re ed as well... he could be just as valuable as Blair's rebounding if that shot is going down. As for Splitter....... he hasn't shown much, but his sample size is also low.
Regarding the big 3 I was talking more about them staying healthy throughout a season and playoff series. Not having 1 of them playing or healthy in a playoff series can throw mutliple players off their games since they cause so much attention and do so much for every player on the court.
Bonner averaged 20 mpg in 2009 and shot 23% from 3 pt range off 13 attempts; he shot 37% in 2010 off 27 attempts in 17 mpg - I'd say that's not that small of a sample.
He also averaged 3pts and 3 rbs in 2009 and 5 pts and 3 rbs in 2010. For that many minutes per game, the Spurs will need much more from their bigs to be successful.
In 2009 were playing without Manu. That obviously hurts other players and helps the defense not allow open 3s that matt would get with manu in the lineup. plus, 13 attempts = very small sample size.
in 2010. 37% off 27 attempts isn't too bad....... Still a small sample size though.
I can agree that he will need to hit the boards harder, which he seems to be making more of an effort at this season.
A bad shooting playoff without Manu in the lineup in which he only shot 13 threes and shooting 37% from 3 the following year is not nearly enough to label someone as a "playoff choker" though.
Last edited by DesignatedT; 01-26-2011 at 04:52 PM.
bonner is not a key to anything he is what he is a role player. lets not get too excited folks
If the Big 3 are healthy, we know what we are going to get out of them come playoff time.
it's the role players that make the difference between losing a game/series.
we need guys like Neal/Bonner to really outplay the laker role players if we want a chance of getting to the finals.
I hope Neal is up to the task because Bonner has shown his worth in the playoffs.
it's just the some guys can play when the pressure is on and some guys cant. Bonner has done nothing to warrant being placed in the former.
sorry, forgot to add that he was 21% in FG% in 2009 off 23 attempts, but I'm sure that was because Manu wasn't playing?
Because he lacks in so many other areas, Bonner needs to be hitting in the high 40's for 3pt % to get more than 10mpg.
well those Spurs that you are talking about are long gone, Let's wait for the playoffs and hopefully Bonner won't go David Copperfield on us again
Soooo........they're 29-6 in games that he's played.
Their record with him playing more than 8 mins? 27-6
Lol classic Fabbs self-ownage.
Soooo........they're 29-6 in games that he's played.
Their record with him playing more than 8 mins? 27-6
Lol classic Fabbs self-ownage.
You then proceed to point out that .910 > .814
No . 33 game sample is also > 12 game sample
lol Fabbs
Not surprising, our team has a whole as played exceptionally this year. Bonner is just another player that can contribute when needed. Our depth has been strong enough so that we aren't skipping a beat.
Agloco, others too?
Group enema for the PollyAnna Poppers at the next party?
Sound, reasonable take.
underdawgunderdawg you've been sound the whole thread.sorry, forgot to add that he was 21% in FG% in 2009 off 23 attempts, but I'm sure that was because Manu wasn't playing?
Because he lacks in so many other areas, Bonner needs to be hitting in the high 40's for 3pt % to get more than 10mpg.
It's moot to use the record to correlate absences, or any other stats. You can say "without Pop coaching the end of the game, the Spurs are undefeated". Just silly stats that mean nothing.
lol this is what ive been saying too
espn:
Spin: There is no word on when exactly Bonner will return, but given how the Spurs have been playing recently, they'll probably give him as much time as possible to heal.
The small amount of attempts is actually another knock, and it's all on him.
He passes up shots in the playoffs like no other. This is something that was discussed back then.
He's a nice role player, nothing more. I'd say the fourth best big on the roster.
But he's hardly the offensive centerpiece some of the idiots on this forum claim him to be.
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