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would kobe be the luke walton of the team?
Lakers/Celts especially if no duplicates allowed ....
C - Kareem, Shaq, Wilt,
PF - Russell (we that deep), Mchale, KG
SF - Bird, Baylor, Hondo (Pierce and Worthy as scrubs)
SG - Kobe, West and Ray Allen or Goodrich
PG - Magic, Cousy, DJ, Tiny
Even against MJ, Hakeem etc. you cant score inside even if bird and Magic are average perimeter defenders ...Kareem and Russell? or Wilt and KG? Even shaq and Mchale No one is getting easy inside looks ... Magic and Bird's vision on the same team with big men and Kobe to pass to? Wow.
Other guys
PG Stockton Isiah and (Nash or Kidd)
SG MJ Oscar (and whomever ... you wont sit MJ)
SF Lebron Pippen Nique (debateable but i love Nique)
PF Duncan Malone Barkley
C HAkeem David Ewing
Great team I take Lakers/Celtics still but OMG at starters: MJ,Lebron, Isiah, Duncan and hakeem ...
would kobe be the luke walton of the team?
PG - Kobe, Kobe
SG - Kobe, Kobe
SF - Kobe, Kobe
PF - Kobe, Kobe
C - Kobe, Kobe
Team NBA:
Doesn't matter
(Let's be serious, who doesn't believe this is the real Laker fan take?)
What I am seeing is acknowledgment that Duncan is the best PF to ever play the game.
*yawn*
Magic, Bird, McHale, and Shaq were all mediocre to defenders as well.
Nash is far more skilled than CP3 is. Don't get me wrong, CP3 is incredibly skilled, but he is not as good of a shooter, passer, or as high IQ of a player. He relies more off his athletic ability to create offense for himself and the team, while Nash relies more on instincts, IQ, and skills.
Plus, Nash isnt a heartless choker like CP3. Dude has as much heart and is as clutch as any player in NBA history.
thats pretty much been established for years
Team NBA better PERIMETER defense but even if you take away Wilt ...Kareem and Russell? Are you serious? Even Lebron Mj will have a tough time scoring aginst that ...Only thing is Lebron would destroy Bird ...Lakers Celts would have to play 3-2 zone or 1-2-2 (I know it's illegal but all teams use zone principles gainst the Kobe, Lebron MJ types) to hid Magic and Bird on defense both were decent team defenders but mediocre 1 0n 1 ...
Honestly, I personally would start Nash as well over Stockton, and I can agree with arguments made for Zeke or Payton. I don't think people realize just how skilled Nash really is. Maybe not a strong defender, but if you have Hakeem, Duncan, and Robinson backing you up, along with Jordan and Pippen giving you wing help, it's not going to make much of a difference whether you have Nash on defense, or Payton on defense, since team defense when guarding opposing PGs means more to me than individual defense. On the other hand, when it comes to guarding SG's and C's, I think having solid individual defenders becomes more important.
Kobe would have to take Olympic role he had with less shots ...
Co-sign. Who debates this? Only issue I have he really was a center for most of his career but if you put him at PF the debate is closed in my book. Malone or Barkley would need at least 2 rings to be a factor and neither have one ...
Ya, Nash is one of the most underrated players of all-time IMO, despite the fact that he has 2 MVPs..I don't think most people realize how great he has been..the majority of NBA fans seem to obsess over his "undeserved" MVPs and lack of defense..I also find it funny that most people that bash Nash for his "system" numbers, ignore the fact that Stockton might be the most system-oriented player in NBA history..
I agree about the D..as I've been saying for years, PG defense is extremely overrated in today's NBA, and even in the history of the NBA..
All NBA team would over the Lakers/Celtics best players.
My All NBA
Stockton/Gary Payton
Jordan/Reggie Miller
Lebron/Pippen
Duncan/Malone
Olajuwon/D Robinson
Celtics/Lakers Best offensiveperimeter players are no match against Pippen, Payton and Jordan. On offense, no one can stop a prime Jordan and Lebron with Wade sitting on the sideline
Olajuwon at his best is better than Shaq at his lol. We all saw how an older Olajuwon shredded Shaq in the Finals. Duncan & Malone vs McHale & KG? Should I continue?
So it's pretty much:
Shaq
Russel
Bird
Kobe
Magic
vs.
Hakeem
Duncan
LeBron?
Jordan
Kidd/Stockton/Whoever
NBA destroys that
not to mention that the suns went from a 20 win team to a 60 win team instantly with his arrival, and that he has been able to be a damn good PG with all kinds of different styles of player, whether with Dirk and Finley, Marion, Stoudemire, Diaw, Richardson, Hill, etc... dude keeps putting up 10+ assists and 50/40/90 years. Amazing. And IMO the best jumpshooter ever.
How many PG's were truly great defenders? Payton was one of the few that could actually really play good "glue" defense. Other guys like Stockton, Isaiah, CP3, etc... were just about hacking, going for steals, etc... but werent much if any better than Nash at playing straight up defense. Only difference is these guys had teams with good defensive systems and guys who manned the paint effectively, something Nash has never had. I dont think people realize how important it is to have a good interior/team defense to help other individual defenders. When you look at guys like Bruce Bowen, Ron Artest, Pippen, etc... they played their most effective defense when having good interior/team defense. Bowen of course had Timmy back behind him. Artest had a good defensive team around him in Indiana, a good defensive team around him in Houston, as well as having the length of Bynum and Pau in LA. Pippen of course played on the Bulls who were always a very good defensive team. Best interior defender Nash ever had? Arguably Shawn Bradley... LMAO.
I'd put Lebron at the point and scottie at the 3.....
Lebron
MJ
Pippen
Duncan
Olajuwon
v
Magic
Kobe
Bird
McHale
Shaq
Shaq would have to be absolutely dominant for the Celtics/Lakers to stand a chance against a team that athletic. i think NBA wins and it aint even close. Answer for everything the Cs/Lakers throw at them.
Kobe would have the "Laettner" role in that team at best. Once he chucks 5 bricks in a row, he'd be relegated to waterboy by Kareem, Shaq and Magic.
andNash in the conversation
Lol nash
I...actually...agree with you
This.
MJ goes bukkake mode on everyone.
if couldnt start LeBron at point, then i'd go Stockton/Nash.
no way MJ ever passes to Zeke.
good point when we bring the reality of EGOs to the equation. Things stand different. No way Shaq plays with Kobe and no way prime Kobe deferrs to superior players like Magic/Kareem/Wilt. Same thing with Shaq, he won't play behind the other great bigmen.
Similarly on the NBA side, MJ and Isiah, but besides those, I see nice chemistry.
another advantrage point to the NBA team.
another thing, do we agree Pop coaches NBA and Jackson the LA/Cs?
When you arent busy cutting yourself because you are an emo fat mexican, or swallowing the entire spurs team's simultaneously, you may actually be capable of understanding a logical thought presented on this forum. Keep it upI...actually...agree with you
Prime Duncan and Hakeem protecting the paint? Prime GOAT? That team would just skull the Celtics/Lakers team.
they won 3 rings together despite not getting along and letting their egos get in the way. moot point.
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