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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    I can agree to disagree with you. No heartburn here.
    Nor here.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Agreed. Felt traded his integrity for nothing. But, ironically, Felt's betrayal may have set the stage for the Republicans rise over the past couple of decades. In fact, had he know what was to happen to him in just 6 short years, he might not ever have become a cheesy, anonymous, "Deep Throat."
    Yoni is right, It certainly set the stage. The born-again NeoCons learned that if they were going to get away with their plans to control the flow of oil, they were first going to have to find a way to control the corporate media.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    This is in part because both the Democrats and the press learned the "lessons of Watergate" too well. The press is constantly seeking the next scandal, and the Democrats and the liberal left have taken to portraying policy disagreements as criminal coverups--the impulse behind both the Iran-contra scandal and the Valerie Plame scandal. As if to underscore the futility of it all, yesterday, hours before the Felt revelation, the Boston Globe published an op-ed by Ralph Nader and some other guy arguing that President Bush should be impeached for liberating Iraq.
    The corporate media is a en mess, and we can thank the Oligarchies that control CNN/FOX/MSNBC/CBS/ABC for that. It's not all Dan Rathers fault. Somewhere along the way the media forgot that it had a responsibility to inform it's readers instead of always worrying how its reporting may be construed by the right-wing attack machine.

    Do you want to know how bad the problems with the media have become? With the Downing Street memos we now have almost definite proof that members of this administration may have intentionally misled a nation into war. Excuse me if I am wrong, but to me It doesn't get more morally wrong or criminal than that, and so far our corporate media for the most part has chosen to ignore it.

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    morally reprehensible as well...
    how dare he expose the illegal actions of a corrupt administration. very immoral indeed ...

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    When the very administration you work for is trying to use the CIA to stifle your investigation, all bets are off. I can't believe the apologists are soft-pedaling the actions of the Nixon administration. Felt is no angel, but pretending he's the real bad guy somehow worse than the actual Watergate criminals is laughable.

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    Oh, I know deepthroat, and that's not her!!

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    Felt busted a lame-o President and wants to bask in it's glory before he dies. Big whoop. Let the old man rejoice.

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    @ this thread!

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    Oh, I know deepthroat, and that's not her!!
    I take it you never met Mrs. Ferley

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    I'll try to keep it simple because it is not.

    Felt was pissed he was passed over for the head of the FBI when Hoover died, and because the gang at the white house was stepping into FBI terriority, i.e. such as wire tapping MLK at the request of JFK, etc

    When all of this happend years ago I thought Felt was a HERO he wasn't and isn't.

    Felt was convicted for authorizing break- ins into the Weather underground during the Vietnam Era. Nixon, as a private citizen testified for Felt in 79 or 80. Felt was authorizing these break-ins at the same time he was feeding Berstein info about the plummers/Nixon.

    Felt and the FBI tried underhanded tactics against Daniel Ellsberg (SP)re: Pentagon Papers and were not successful, that is why the "Plummers" Unit was formed.
    Felt was fined $5,000 and was later pardoned by Ronnie Raygun for authorizing illegal break-ins against the weather underground.


    I can remember when "Liberal" was not a dirty word
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    one thing is for sure , the wheel in the sky keeps on turning.

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    one thing is for sure , the wheel in the sky keeps on turning.
    So, how's the back?

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    Turns out that Deep throat may have been a collaberative effort...

    Deep Throat's tale revealed
    Former FBI agent says 3 FBI officials helped W. Mark Felt leak information about Watergate probe to the press
    By BRENDAN LYONS, Staff writer
    First published: Monday, June 6, 2005


    At the height of the Watergate investigation more than three decades ago, three high-ranking FBI officials conspired with the agency's deputy director to leak information about their probe to the press.

    The revelation of that collaboration by a retired FBI agent in conversations in recent days with the Times Union casts W. Mark Felt -- who admitted last week to being the media source known as Deep Throat -- not as a disgruntled maverick, as some have suggested, but rather as the leader of a clandestine group that fought White House efforts to contain the sprawling investigation.

    Paul V. Daly, 64, who joined the bureau in 1965 and went on to head field offices in Albany and North Carolina, told the Times Union last week that he learned in 1978 that Felt was Deep Throat and that he had not acted alone: At least three other FBI officials helped Felt secretly disclose information about the Watergate investigation to The Washington Post.

    The FBI officials met regularly in their Washington, D.C., offices to discuss what information they would reveal to fuel media interest. Their motive, according to Daly, was to counteract the Nixon White House's efforts to quash the FBI investigation of the Watergate burglary and related wrongdoing linked to the Oval Office.

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    I like how Nixon-Republicans love to gloss over the fact that Nixon cabinet members authorized and participated in the burglary of the Washington offices of the Democratic Party in order to gain a political advantage over its political enemies. Nixon hanging himself with his own tapes was classic.

    Government whistleblowers save taxpayers money, expose systematic corruption and official graft. Nothing wrong with that.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Here is a great timeline of the Watergate scandal that brought Nixon down...

    Watergate Chronology
    1968 | 1969 | 1970 | 1971 | 1972 | 1973 | 1974 | 2002 - Present

    November 5, 1968
    Richard Milhous Nixon, the 55-year-old former vice president who lost the presidency for the Republicans in 1960, reclaims it by defeating Hubert Humphrey in one of the closest elections in U.S. history. Post Story

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    January 21, 1969
    Nixon is inaugurated as the 37th president of the United States. Post Story

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    July 23, 1970
    Nixon approves a plan for greatly expanding domestic intelligence-gathering by the FBI, CIA and other agencies. He has second thoughts a few days later and rescinds his approval.

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    June 13, 1971
    The New York Times begins publishing the Pentagon Papers - the Defense Department's secret history of the Vietnam War. The Washington Post will begin publishing the papers later that same week.

    September 3, 1971
    The White House "plumbers" unit - named for their orders to plug leaks in the administration - burglarizes a psychiatrist's office to find files on Daniel Ellsberg, the former defense analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers.

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    June 17, 1972
    Five men, one of whom says he used to work for the CIA, are arrested at 2:30 a.m. trying to bug the offices of the Democratic National Committee at the Watergate hotel and office complex. Post Story

    June 19, 1972

    A GOP security aide is among the Watergate burglars, The Washington Post reports. Former attorney general John Mitc , head of the Nixon reelection campaign, denies any link to the operation. Post Story

    August 1, 1972
    A $25,000 cashier's check, apparently earmarked for the Nixon campaign, wound up in the bank account of a Watergate burglar, The Washington Post reports. Post Story

    September 29, 1972
    John Mitc , while serving as attorney general, controlled a secret Republican fund used to finance widespread intelligence-gathering operations against the Democrats, The Post reports. Post Story

    October 10, 1972

    FBI agents establish that the Watergate break-in stems from a massive campaign of political spying and sabotage conducted on behalf of the Nixon reelection effort, The Post reports. Post Story

    November 7, 1972
    Nixon is reelected in one of the largest landslides in American political history, taking more than 60 percent of the vote and crushing the Democratic nominee, Sen. George McGovern of South Dakota. Post Story

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    January 30, 1973
    Former Nixon aides G. Gordon Liddy and James W. McCord Jr. are convicted of conspiracy, burglary and wiretapping in the Watergate incident. Five other men plead guilty, but mysteries remain. Post Story

    April 30, 1973
    Nixon's top White House staffers, H.R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman, and Attorney General Richard Kleindienst resign over the scandal. White House counsel John Dean is fired. Post Story

    May 18, 1973
    The Senate Watergate Committee begins its nationally televised hearings. Attorney General-designate Elliot Richardson taps former solicitor general Archibald Cox as the Justice Department's special prosecutor for Watergate. Post Story

    June 3, 1973

    John Dean has told Watergate investigators that he discussed the Watergate cover-up with President Nixon at least 35 times, The Post reports. Post Story

    June 13, 1973
    Watergate prosecutors find a memo addressed to John Ehrlichman describing in detail the plans to burglarize the office of Pentagon Papers defendant Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist, The Post reports. Post Story

    July 13, 1973
    Alexander Butterfield, former presidential appointments secretary, reveals in congressional testimony that since 1971 Nixon had recorded all conversations and telephone calls in his offices. Post Story

    July 18, 1973
    Nixon reportedly orders the White House taping system disconnected.

    July 23, 1973
    Nixon refuses to turn over the presidential tape recordings to the Senate Watergate Committee or the special prosecutor. Post Story

    October 20, 1973

    Saturday Night Massacre: Nixon fires Archibald Cox and abolishes the office of the special prosecutor. Attorney General Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William D. Ruckelshaus resign. Pressure for impeachment mounts in Congress. Post Story

    November 17, 1973

    Nixon declares, "I'm not a crook," maintaining his innocence in the Watergate case. Post Story

    December 7, 1973
    The White House can't explain an 18 ½-minute gap in one of the subpoenaed tapes. Chief of Staff Alexander Haig says one theory is that "some sinister force" erased the segment. Post Story

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    April 30, 1974
    The White House releases more than 1,200 pages of edited transcripts of the Nixon tapes to the House Judiciary Committee, but the committee insists that the tapes themselves must be turned over. Post Story

    July 24, 1974
    The Supreme Court rules unanimously that Nixon must turn over the tape recordings of 64 White House conversations, rejecting the president's claims of executive privilege. Post Story

    July 27, 1974
    House Judiciary Committee passes the first of three articles of impeachment, charging obstruction of justice. Post Story

    August 8, 1974
    Richard Nixon becomes the first U.S. president to resign. Vice President Gerald R. Ford assumes the country's highest office. He will later pardon Nixon of all charges related to the Watergate case. Post Story

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    June 13, 2002
    Stanley L. Greigg, 71, the former Democratic National Committee official who filed the original criminal complaint against the Watergate burglars, dies in Salem, Va. Post Story

    June 25, 2002
    One week after the 30th anniversary of the Watergate break-in, an alternative theory of what prompted the most famous burglary in American political history returns to U.S. District Court. Post Story

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    February 10, 2003
    Ronald Ziegler, 63, who as President Richard M. Nixon's press secretary at first described the Watergate break-in as a "third-rate burglary," a symbol of his often-testy relations with reporters, dies after a heart attack. Post Story

    April 8, 2003
    In one of the largest such purchases in American history, the University of Texas at Austin buys the Watergate papers of Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein for $5 million, the university announced. Post Story

    July 16, 2003
    Chesterfield Smith, 85, a prominent Florida lawyer who, as president of the American Bar Association in 1973, became a critic of President Richard Nixon's efforts to avoid the stains of the Watergate scandal, dies in a hospital in Coral Gables, Fla., after a heart attack. Post Story

    July 27, 2003
    Thirty years after the Senate select committee hearings on Watergate riveted the nation and doomed the Nixon presidency, a key figure in the scandal says he has a fresh and explosive revelation: Richard M. Nixon personally ordered the burglary of Democratic headquarters at the Watergate complex. Post Story

    August 24, 2003
    John J. Rhodes, 86, an Arizona Republican who as minority leader of the House of Representatives played a critical role in the events leading to the 1974 resignation of President Richard M. Nixon, dies of cancer at his home in Mesa, Ariz. Post Story

    October 31, 2003
    Thomas F. McBride, 74, an associate prosecutor in the Watergate investigation and former inspector general of the Agriculture and Labor departments, dies of a cerebral hemorrhage while walking his dog in a park near his home in Portland, Ore. Post Story

    November 13, 2003
    Congressional negotiators agree to undo part of a Watergate-era law that prevented former president Richard M. Nixon from taking his tapes and papers with him, but say the records would still have to be processed here before being released to establish the presidential library that Nixon and his family always wanted. Post Story

    December 11, 2003
    National Archives and Records Administration release 240 more hours of tape of the 37th president. Post Story

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    April 9, 2004
    Helen M. Smith, 84, who worked at the White House as press secretary and trusted aide to first lady Pat Nixon during the turbulent Watergate years, dies of vascular disease at her home in Washington. Post Story

    May 27, 2004
    Transcripts of telephone conversations released show President Richard M. Nixon jokingly threatened to drop a nuclear bomb on Capitol Hill in March 1974 as Congress was moving to impeach him over the Watergate scandal. Post Story

    May 29, 2004
    Archibald Cox, 92, the Harvard law professor and special prosecutor whose refusal to accept White House limits on his investigation of the Watergate break-in and coverup helped bring about the 1974 resignation of President Richard M. Nixon, dies at his home in Brooksville, Maine. Post Story

    May 29, 2004
    Samuel Dash, 79, the chief counsel of the Senate Watergate Committee whose televised interrogation into the secret audiotaping system at the White House ultimately led to President Richard M. Nixon's resignation, dies of multiple organ failure May 29 at Washington Hospital Center. Post Story

    July 29, 2004
    Frederick Cheney LaRue, 75, the shadowy Nixon White House aide and "bagman" who delivered more than $300,000 in payoffs to Watergate conspirators, dies of coronary artery disease in a Biloxi, Miss., motel room, where he lived. Post Story

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    January 22, 2005
    Rose Mary Woods, 87, the Nixon White House secretary whose improbable stretch was supposed to account for part of an 18 ½-minute gap in a crucial Watergate tape, dies at a nursing home in Alliance, Ohio, where she lived. Post Story

    February 4, 2005
    Thousands of pages of notes, memos, transcripts and other materials collectively known as the Woodward and Bernstein Watergate Papers opens to the public at the University of Texas, minus the most fascinating detail connected to the demise of the Nixon administration: the iden y of Deep Throat. Post Story

    February 5, 2005
    James Joseph Bierbower, 81, a well-known Washington lawyer who represented Nixon campaign aide Jeb Stuart Magruder during the Watergate trials and EPA official Rita Lavelle during a Superfund inquiry, dies of at Charlotte Hall Nursing Home in St. Mary's County. Post Story

    February 18, 2005
    Robert R. Merhige Jr., a judge who who wrote the decision that threw out the appeals of Watergate figures G. Gordon Liddy, Bernard Barker and Eugenio Martinez after they were convicted of breaking into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist dies. Post Story

    May 31, 2005
    The Washington Post confirms that W. Mark Felt, a former number-two official at the FBI, was "Deep Throat," after Vanity Fair magazine identified the 91-year-old Felt, now a retiree in California, as the long-anonymous source. Post Story
    Washington Post

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