But does it say if they've done anything since? I agree they knew what they were doing.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/print...102273,00.html
Here's a link to the story of a woman in the UK who at age 11 in 1968, strangled two young boys. She was released in 1980 and has managed to lead a somewhat regular life, until it was time to tell her own 14 year old daughter what she did.
Pretty interesting dilemma.
right now she's a 9 year child with serious anger issues whose very emotionaly unstable and has a scewed view of the world.
Send her to juvie for the next 9 years and she will emerge a killer.
Other than that.. I don;t feel qualified to say what sort of punishment she should recieve. And noone will know the whole story unless they are the judege aor one of the 12 persons on the jury.
Ughh. . .
This is just sad from every angle. I don't think the 9-year old had any idea what she was doing. Now she is going to have to carry this around with her for the rest of her life.
I hate to take the typical view of blaming the parents, but in this case it was obvious to a lot of folks that this little girl had tantrum issues that needed to be addressed. Perhaps some behavior modification prior to this event would have been in order.
Chopper II has had some tantrum issues of his own and he's only 19 months old. His mom and I are working hard to curb his behavior when that happens, and we're having pretty good success with it. What we've read on the subject is that if you don't work to correct a child's behavior when they are young that children who are prone to tantrum can have their fits of rage escalate as they grow older. As an extreme example I give you Exhibit A above.
I think the little girl was operating within behavior limits that her mother had allowed up to this point. I think at 9-years old this little girl had no idea what stabbing that other girl really meant.
If this girl is charged with manslaughter her mom should probably be an accessory. Since dad isn't mentioned my guess is he probably isn't around. Charge his ass with something too.
I remember this, the todler's name was Bugger, James, I think. My son was 2 at the time and this made me want to go kill those two devils. I hope they learned thier lessons.
nobody gave a about her mental well being before she murdered her friend...why start now?
that's my gut reaction.
but i understand, as tragic as this is, a 2nd life should not be wasted if it is not necessary. so lock her up for a few years and get her some mental help and hopefully, some semblance of continued education...give her 10 years probation when she gets out and if she ever kills again, we can start talking death penalty.
and yeah, i blame her mama for not teaching and controlling her daughter better...that little girl should FEAR the wrath of her parent. so many things i didn't do, were because i knew my stepdad would kick my ass if/when he found out....Godbless Queenie and Godbless this 9 year old walking tragedy...
neglect has consequences.
As for this 9 yr old, I would lock her up til she was 18, then tie her fallopian tubes so she can not conceive children, and put her on probation.
Kids can make you go nuts, so I would not let her have kids, she would probably kill them the first time their pissed her off, given her psychotic temper.
She should have ropes tied to each of her limbs with the other ends attached to horses. The horses should then be whipped and as they gallop away her body shall be torn apart.
I recall that story a few months back about a 6- or 7-year-old who had that violent outbreak at school and people had a fit because she was handcuffed and put in back of a police car. I have now had a vision of her future in the above story.
Yeah I remember that story too. They shouldve tazed her ass also just like that other thread that was started :P
Wasn't it a kindergartener that was trying to hit her teacher repeatedly, and the teacher and the principal didn't want to try and restrain her due to fear of a lawsuit?
Yes I believe so. I could be mistaking but wasn't also part of the story that she was African-American, and that the police were being racist by doing that?
A 9yo knows right from wrong and your typical average 9yo will not stab anyone in the heart no matter how angry they get.
This child is mentally ill as any child who commits such violent acts. She should have received help years ago because it sounds like there is a long history of violent outbursts. Unfortunately our society does not think kids can be mentally unstable......blame it all on parenting. In many cases this is the answer but sometimes you just have sick kids. You have kids that need psychiatric help and medication. Time outs, spankings, severe punishment will not work.
The older girl was badass. I mean come on you get stabbed in the HEART and you walk 40 feet down some stairs and she managed to say "uhh"? Holy **** I'd just roll over and die. Too bad she died though.....
You are asking for a little taste of taze arn't you?
You are asking for a little taste of taze arn't you?yeah you know me so well already. TAZE
7-year-old suspected of beating infant sister to death
By VICKIE CHACHERE, Associated Press writer
TAMPA, Fla. -- A 7-year-old boy beat his baby half-sister to death with his fists, feet and a two-by-four because he was jealous of the attention the girl was receiving and because she would not stop crying, police said yesterday.
The State Attorney's Office is deciding whether to file charges against the boy in an attack that rattled even veteran homicide detectives.
"The veteran detectives who worked on this case have never seen a case with someone as young as a 7-year-old show so much violence and so little remorse," Tampa police spokeswoman Laura McElroy said.
The attack occurred May 22 in Tampa, where the boy had been visiting his father. The seven-month-old girl was dead on arrival at the hospital where her parents rushed her.
The boy confessed to killing his sister a week later when detectives confronted him with the evidence, McElroy said.
The unidentified boy was not taken into custody and is living with his mother while prosecutors make their decision on whether to charge him.
Police said the father and his girlfriend were outside visiting with neighbors when the boy came to them about midnight on the night of the attack and told them the baby was bleeding. They found the girl with a bloody nose and said she wasn't breathing.
Hillsborough County Assistant State Attorney Pam Bondi said prosecutors were just beginning to review the case and the complex legal issues involved with bringing charges against such a young child. Among the elements prosecutors will have to consider is whether a child so young is competent to stand trial for a crime, Bondi said.
"There are a lot of issues," Bondi said. "This is the first time we have dealt with a 7-year-old accused of such a violent crime."
Sidenote: I would be hardpressed to say that these things happening have nothing to do with the intensity of our violent culture. While everyone is right in blaming the parents, I wonder how much shared blame could go around for our love of violence in almost every aspect of media?
This is not directed at you, Manny...but how many times have those of us who complain about the violence in the media get shouted down?
Just as I expect us to be shouted down by the media again..."We just report the news, we aren't responsible for any of this..."
I'm not talking about media as in in news media, but all media (ie everything used to convery information, books, movies, etc etc).
Also, Travis, I feel as though attacking the outlets that display the violence is attacking the symptom of the disease. I think of far more pertinance is why are these outlets successfull? In otherwords, why do we WANT to view so much violence?
Even better...the other "media" purveyors will scream "Change the channel!" or "Turn off the radio!" or whatever...
Whoever's ox is gored is going to scream some form of the word "Censorship" followed quickly by a
Don't get me started on permissive or non-existent parenting styles...and/or the "child-raising experts" who sell them...
"it's in your nature to destroy yourselves."
-the terminator
Boy, 7, Suspected in Tot's Beating Death
Seven-Year-Old Boy Suspected of Beating Baby Half-Sister to Death With Fists, Feet and Two-By-Four
By VICKIE CHACHERE
The Associated Press
Jun. 1, 2005 - A 7-year-old boy beat his baby half-sister to death with his fists, feet and a two-by-four because he was jealous of the attention the girl was receiving and because she would not stop crying, police said Wednesday.
The State Attorney's Office is deciding whether to file charges against the boy in an attack that rattled even veteran homicide detectives.
"The veteran detectives who worked on this case have never seen a case with someone as young as a 7-year-old show so much violence and so little remorse," Tampa police spokeswoman Laura McElroy said.
The attack occurred May 22 in Tampa, where the boy had been visiting his father. Seven-month-old Jayza Laney Simms was dead on arrival at the hospital where her parents rushed her.
The boy confessed to killing his sister a week later when detectives confronted him with the evidence, McElroy said.
The unidentified boy was not taken into custody and is living with his mother while prosecutors make their decision on whether to charge him.
Police said the father and his girlfriend were outside visiting with neighbors when the boy came to them about midnight on the night of the attack and told them the baby was "bleeding." They found the girl with a bloody nose and said she wasn't breathing.
Hillsborough County State Attorney's spokeswoman Pam Bondi said prosecutors were just beginning to review the case and the complex legal issues involved with bringing charges against such a young child. Among the elements prosecutors will have to consider is whether a child so young is competent to stand trial for a crime, Bondi said.
"There are a lot of issues," Bondi said. "This is the first time we have dealt with a 7-year-old accused of such a violent crime."
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