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    Does it bother you that you have takes like "Suns are better without Amare" and "The Mavs who lost last year to the Spurs and now lost Caron have more than enough to beat the Spurs"?

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    Peja/Roddy can replace his production
    No. Because Peja/Roddy would have been there to bolster what Caron brought. They would be production from the bench or elsewhere. Lets say they do replace what Caron brought, who replaces what Roddy/Peja would have brought from the bench had Caron been there?

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    They didn't have enough last year to do it and now they don't have Butler. Good argument
    They have Chandler at center and another shooter in Peja who's played real well since being signed. Stop fooling yourself.

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    Chandler back in for Mahinmi, lead quickly goes from 1 back to 8.

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    No. Because Peja/Roddy would have been there to bolster what Caron brought. They would be production from the bench or elsewhere. Lets say they do replace what Caron brought, who replaces what Roddy/Peja would have brought from the bench had Caron been there?
    Peja was signed after Butler was already lost for the season. They signed peja to help replace some of the production.

    They have Marion, Terry, and a much improved JJ off the bench. That gives them decent production off the bench.

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    They have Chandler at center and another shooter in Peja who's played real well since being signed. Stop fooling yourself.
    Sure, great, they have Tyson. How about those guards. You are saying Peja>Caron?

    Cause if not, they didn't have enough last year to beat the Spurs. They fizzled out in the first round vs the Spurs after a very scintillating regular season record.

    Great arguments from you today

    You are just getting it pushed in today, huh

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    Tbh, Dallas doesnt really have a consistent number 2 option but Chandler does enough for them now on the defensive end to cover that flaw for the most part. I guess they're just gonna have to keep on relying on Terry to hit his jumpers if they wanna really get far in the playoffs. Dirk will get his, its the other guys that seem to fall short when it matters.

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    Peja was signed after Butler was already lost for the season. They signed peja to help replace some of the production.

    They have Marion, Terry, and a much improved JJ off the bench. That gives them decent production off the bench.
    They had that last year. So now they have Peja in place of Butler which is worse and they didn't have enough last year.

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    Does it bother you that you have takes like "Suns are better without Amare" and "The Mavs who lost last year to the Spurs and now lost Caron have more than enough to beat the Spurs"?
    You act like Caron is an All-Star or something. His loss hurts on defense a bit, but not offensively.

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    , He is better on both ends than Peja. Great arguments

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    They had that last year. So now they have Peja in place of Butler which is worse and they didn't have enough last year.
    No they have Chandler who is a big upgrade over Haywood and they now have Haywood off the bench.

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    Sure, so you are saying the Mavs, who didn't have enough last year to beat the Spurs, who lost Butler, but added TC now clearly have enough . Good argument

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    You act like Caron is an All-Star or something. His loss hurts on defense a bit, but not offensively.
    He was only their third leading scorer and second best player.

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    , He is better on both ends than Peja. Great arguments
    Peja's three-point shooting spreads the floor more which makes it easier for Dirk to get his and for the guards to penetrate. However Caron's loss hurts them defensively.

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    Sure, so you are saying the Mavs, who didn't have enough last year to beat the Spurs, who lost Butler, but added TC now clearly have enough . Good argument
    RC screwed up last year trying to play Butler and Marion on the floor with Kidd. They were too slow to cover the Spurs guards. He won't make that mistake this season. Mavs are better than the Spurs in the frontcourt. They just need to play better in the perimeter.

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    Caron is better offensively than Peja. Sorry. So Peja's 43% 3PT FG% is a lot better than Butler's 43% 3PT FG%? That is what you are telling me? You are also saying Peja's 9 PPG is better than Caron's 15 PPG all the while being way worse defensively and on the glass?

    So lets recap:

    Mavs aren't good enough to beat the Spurs last year.

    They add TC, but lose Caron Butler and now they have plenty.

    They don't make a trade, but still have plenty.

    Spurs add Gary Neal & James Anderson to a team that already beat the Mavs last year, but clearly the Mavs jump them.

    Great arguments

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    RC screwed up last year trying to play Butler and Marion on the floor with Kidd. They were too slow to cover the Spurs guards. He won't make that mistake this season. Mavs are better than the Spurs in the frontcourt. They just need to play better in the perimeter.
    , We will see if Tim/Dice/Blair/Bonner will out perform Dirk/Tyson/Money Thief/Ian

    Then we will see if the team that did not have enough last year, whom lost Butler from last year, is still good enough to slow down TP/Manu/RJ/Neal/Hill/Anderson.

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    if you guys actually think Peja will do anything in the playoffs. Just another jumpshooter added to the 10 they already have. I hope LA plays Dallas, he'll probably be more interested with clubbing than the actual games.

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    nb4 someone runs in and blows their load to DPGs "subtle trolling"

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    Caron is better offensively than Peja. Sorry. So Peja's 43% 3PT FG% is a lot better than Butler's 43% 3PT FG%? That is what you are telling me? You are also saying Peja's 9 PPG is better than Caron's 15 PPG all the while being way worse defensively and on the glass?

    So lets recap:

    Mavs aren't good enough to beat the Spurs last year.

    They add TC, but lose Caron Butler and now they have plenty.

    They don't make a trade, but still have plenty.

    Spurs add Gary Neal & James Anderson to a team that already beat the Mavs last year, but clearly the Mavs jump them.

    Great arguments
    James Anderson has hardly played this season. Stop fooling yourself.

    Peja is a bigger threat from the 3-point line so teams will have to respect him more. However his defense will hurt the team while he's on the floor.

    Adding Chandler made their defense so much better. He's fantastic against the pick n roll and has enough length to disrupt in the paint and enough athleticism to rotate defensively.

    They still have more depth than the Spurs.

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    . Stuffed. DB.COM folks. DB.MOTHAFREAKINGCOM

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    Look at how many short sentences he used there! Such subtle trolling tbh.

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    nb4 someone runs in and blows their load to DPGs "subtle trolling"
    You are such a . You just use random throw away lines and bring nothing good to the table, trolling or basketball wise.

    This isn't trolling. This is being correct. Feel free to refute anything I have said. K, thanks.

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    Badfish is insanely jealous that his own friends like me more than him

    His disses don't make any sense . While everyone is laughing and/or agreeing with my takes, he uses his generic "GNSF...." or "In before..." or "scoff,scoff,scoff, don't make sense, scoff"

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    James Anderson has hardly played this season. Stop fooling yourself.

    Peja is a bigger threat from the 3-point line so teams will have to respect him more. However his defense will hurt the team while he's on the floor.

    Adding Chandler made their defense so much better. He's fantastic against the pick n roll and has enough length to disrupt in the paint and enough athleticism to rotate defensively.

    They still have more depth than the Spurs.
    So Peja is a bigger threat because he shoots 43% from 3 compared to Butler's 43% from 3?

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