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of course. What ego maniac wouldn't love the big markets?
No respect for guys who just wait around dogging it and then head for a big market.
sure thing. I knew this would happen. Melo plays one good qtr on D and all the focus is on how good the Knicks are and how Melo can play D
THEY LOST TO THE FREAKIN' CAVS!!
The Knicks are not going anywhere signficant. Give it 12 months and Melo will be more interested in making movies, music and will forget about bball being his #1 priority.
of course. What ego maniac wouldn't love the big markets?
No respect for guys who just wait around dogging it and then head for a big market.
WTF makes Melo overrated and Amare stellar????
Speaking of overrated...you're definitely allowing Chauncey's bball IQ overrate the out of him comparatively, because while he is a very solid player (and I also like him over both Melo and Amare), he's nowhere near the total ability of either, especially Melo. Melo may be overrated by some people, but he's still easily one of the best scorers in the world.
I know right? What player would want to play for one of the greatest cities in the world with world class players in a chance to win an NBA championship.
That's just crazy talk.
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Billups is the definition of clutch.
How did they lose? All I know is I was watching one of my fantasy teams. Chauncey Billups had 9 points and was killing my team. Suddenly, in the last 4 minutes of that game, as I watched the stream, the Knicks pulled out of a 12-point deficit until they were within 1. I found out after the game that Billups had scored 20 points in that 4th quarter.
THEY LOST TO THE FREAKIN' CAVS!!
The Knicks are not going anywhere signficant. Give it 12 months and Melo will be more interested in making movies, music and will forget about bball being his #1 priority.
And if we are to eliminate teams that have lost to the Cavaliers, we have to eliminate the Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers as contenders. They suck too.
Did you not watch your own team in 09 against the Lakers in the Western Finals? Melo can play D when it matters.
What? Uhm, I cant come up with random too. LeBron and Dwade will be too focused on clubbing with DJ Pauly D and the Situation and playing drunk. Also, Denver's stadium will collapse by an avalanche and the organization would have to move to London, being the first NBA team in Europe.THEY LOST TO THE FREAKIN' CAVS!!
The Knicks are not going anywhere signficant. Give it 12 months and Melo will be more interested in making movies, music and will forget about bball being his #1 priority.
Hey, I'm just making as much sense as you are.
I think they're better than the Heat. The Heat aren't that good of a defensive team, their two best players just happen to be great defenders. The Knicks on the other hand have better defenders on the team, it just happens to be in spite of their two best players. Azubuike, Brewer, Billups, Fields, Turiaf, and Shawne Williams are all solid defenders.
You guys had, what, seven years to make it happen? LMAO at the Melo hate from Nugget fan, those it's expected. It's not like the Nuggets are that bad now. They will just be stuck in mediocre land for a while (no lottery and a first round playoff lost for years to come).
I don't think they have the slightest chance of beating a healthy Boston Celtics team. But I think they can challenge any other team in the East. Not necessarily beat them, but be compe ive, make things interesting, and have a chance to win.
I think what's really important for them are guys like Fields, Shawne Williams, and Toney Douglas to be consistent three point threats to give both Amare and Melo room to operate inside. They lost a lot of three point shooting in the trade. And Billups can't be the only guy to open up the halfcourt. Other guys have to make teams pay for doubling and/or collapsing on Amare and Melo.
To me, Boston is the only team that can really neutralize each of the Knicks three best players without heavy double teaming. Plus their overall team defense is still very good. Chicago would be a tough match-up as well because they have defensive pieces to counter the Knicks and a defensive framework to play them well. But I think the Knicks would still have a chance against the Bulls if they play great. And I do think the Knicks have exploitable match-ups against both the Heat and Orlando. Not that they would definitely win a series against either, but I think they would have a chance.
Realistically, they aren't going very far in the playoffs this season. If they're lucky they end up playing Orlando in the first round because I think they match up pretty well against them. But getting further than a second round appearance seems unlikely. They would need exceptional three point shooting to balance Amare's and Melo's inside scoring and have to play over their heads defensively like they did for stretches last night. But that would be asking a lot. Going forward, they need a couple more complimentary pieces and time to put everything together. I don't think they have enough this year.
NuGGets-FaN likes to just make up random because he's butthurt about Melo leaving his ty team (even though he'll repeat that his team his better now every time he goes on an anti-Melo rant). He also says that within a year Amare's knee is gonna be blown out as if he has insider info on it or something.
People are really overrating Billups because of one game where he made some shots down the stretch but still played mediocre. He'll choke again in the playoffs this year. Pistons fans on this site have always told us that "Big Shot" nickname is a total joke and none of us ever listened to them even after getting outplayed by Derek ing Fisher in the 2009 WCF.
IMO, the Knicks need a better center and a better 3rd wheel than Billups. After yesterday, maybe D'antoni is willing to become a little more defense oriented, only time will tell. With those two things, they're a real contender. They're a lot closer than people give them credit for. Having a legit 1A and 1B to build around is 95% of the battle, the rest of the roster is easy.
Billups is way overrated both defensively and as a clutch player. It's not to say he's horrible in either regard because he's better defensively than a lot of PGs merely by his size and strength and he is a clutch player. But it's egregiously overstated how good he is. He's clutch in that he's not afraid of taking a big shot. And he's good enough that he'll make his share. But he also has a history of getting lit up by guys like an old Jason Williams and Boobie Gibson.
I do like him on the Knicks because now he really won't be double teamed playing alongside both Amare and Melo and he should get a lot of open looks. Also, I think Chauncey's temperment is good for the Knicks. If there's one really good thing about Chauncey, it's that when the game starts getting away from his team, he knows when to slow things down, back up the ball, reset the offense, and get a good scoring opportunity. He is very good at tempo control. Defensively lol last night might be the first and only time you'll ever see Chauncey make two defensive plays in crunch time.
Tbh tho, the last thing Amare needs on his team is another excuse maker.
Chauncey is probably overrated, but he's the only guy with some degree of basketball IQ on that team. Both Amare and Melo are truly stat s and they're just happy to get theirs.
God Spurfan is so in re ed. Amare and Melo = classless stat s. Do you idiots have anything to offer about the Knicks outside of that?
Being that this was only their 3rd game together, I was very encouraged by what I saw last night. Melo played great on both ends despite having a bum shooting elbow, and Amare made a concerted effort on the defensive end. How about Landry Fields and the job he did on LBJ as well?
This was only one game so I'm gonna wait and see what develops, but it's encouraging to see them play defense when it mattered. At least it shows they have the ability to do it.
The only way they become classy is when they get traded to the SpursGod Spurfan is so in re ed. Amare and Melo = classless stat s
Come on bro, we all know that the superstars wanna waste away in the rockies instead
Do you have anything else to offer thanGod Spurfan is so in re ed. Amare and Melo = classless stat s
I thought Bill Walker did a pretty good job defensively as well. The Knicks have limited options. Don't know if Corey Brewer can help. I think D'Antoni would rather trust a guy who won't really disrupt his offense even if he's a lesser defender, so I don't know if Brewer will get some opportunities at some point this season. But both Walker and Anthony Carter played well defensively when they were in the game.
It's really a simplistic notion, but it seemed like yesterday the Knicks defense got better merely by just better effort. It goes to show you what difference effort, energy, and just fighting on defense can do. I know the Heat weren't exactly playing their best basketball, but it was a little impressive and somewhat surprising watching a D'Antoni defense fight like they did in the second half.
Amare is a classless stat who was too classless to let the classy Spurs win at least one playoff game last year. Great in classless skunkageThe only way they become classy is when they get traded to the Spurs
Well seeing that the opinion Sarver should have kept Amare is right it is actually something to offer. Acting like Amare and Melo are two scrubs who don't give a about winning is a classic dip ted Spurfan thing to say. Do the Nazis not like black people very much?Do you have anything else to offer than
What? Happy to get theirs? Melo had his stats and money in Denver, he had "his" there too by your standard. The fact is, both Amare and Melo are two of the most prolific scorers in the league, combined together it's a defensive nightmare when anyone of them can blow up. There is not another pf or center I would take over Amare offensively. Honestly.
You would have a point if they ever won anything... I don't dispute they're talented players, but there's no question they have zero basketball IQ.
But do tell us, is the the black jew angle that bothers you?
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