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    I am new to SpursTalk, but have already noticed all the Sequ comments. What gives?
    Just place Sequ on your ignore list and you won't question your intelligence and sanity for being here.

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    As I said when he was signed, which should have been evident to everybody, Quinn is a borderline NBA player..I still have no idea why half the forum thought he was a decent player..

    His appeal is that he's "steady", because he doesn't take any risks..he doesn't take any risks, because when he does, he messes up, due to lack of talent and ability..

    As others have said, the guard rotation should be Hill/Manu/Neal/Anderson and give Jeffers a shot, at least he has some athleticism..

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    The 12th man is a borderline NBA player.


    What a shocking revelation...

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    A borderline NBA player that has already peaked, has no upside, and is on the downhill part of his "career"..

    Playing a borderline player with some potential upside >> playing a borderline NBA player that has nowhere to go but down..

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    The 12th man is a borderline NBA player.


    What a shocking revelation...
    Trying to improve your team regardless of their record.

    What a novel concept...

    Quinn is awful...I wish Jerrels was still here.

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    He is what he is.....our 3rd string PG. He wont matter when it comes to Playoff time anyway....

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    The Bobcats called up Temple, so there's a moot point.

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    What's the difference? That still sounds like everyone else is better than Quinn and Temple.
    I'm willing to go with that. I forget for the moment who else is available, but any first or second string NBA point guard is going to be better than Quinn or Temple. Being on the roster doesn't really mean anything if you can't get assists and can't play defense. If you pulled up the stats then it's pretty clear that Arroyo is far better than Quinn.

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    I'm willing to go with that. I forget for the moment who else is available, but any first or second string NBA point guard is going to be better than Quinn or Temple. Being on the roster doesn't really mean anything if you can't get assists and can't play defense. If you pulled up the stats then it's pretty clear that Arroyo is far better than Quinn.

    I think I'd rather see Jacques Vaughn re-activated than seeing Quinn on the floor again!

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    I think I'd rather see Jacques Vaughn re-activated than seeing Quinn on the floor again!
    I haven't seen Quinn play the last two games, but the thought has occurred to me in the last 24 hours. The meltdown would be legendary.

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    As others have said, the guard rotation should be Hill/Manu/Neal/Anderson and give Jeffers a shot, at least he has some athleticism..
    Finally, another one that gets it.


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    I haven't seen Quinn play the last two games, but the thought has occurred to me in the last 24 hours. The meltdown would be legendary.
    I think people would welcome him back with open arms...

    Did Scottie Reynolds get called up from the D-League?

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    The Spurs should have picked up another PG. The guard position should not consist of overplaying Manu at the PG position and it certainly shouldn't consist of Gary Neal playing point. We tried that before and it failed miserably, not worth going down that road again. The Spurs are stuck with Quinn playing limited minutes until Tony gets back.

    I'm not getting the "I told you so" posts, I don't remember anyone saying Quinn is a badass point guard. He is a typical 3rd PG and unfortunately having to get some PT due to injury.

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    The Spurs should have picked up another PG. The guard position should not consist of overplaying Manu at the PG position and it certainly shouldn't consist of Gary Neal playing point. We tried that before and it failed miserably, not worth going down that road again. The Spurs are stuck with Quinn playing limited minutes until Tony gets back.

    I'm not getting the "I told you so" posts, I don't remember anyone saying Quinn is a badass point guard. He is a typical 3rd PG and unfortunately having to get some PT due to injury.
    Manu would only have to play the "PG" position 15 minutes at most (worst case scenario against tough opponents/close games) in our proposed "best" scenario for the guard rotation.

    That my friend is not overplaying Manu at the point guard position.

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    It could be. He is clearly wearing down down at a pretty steady pace over the course of the season. Go look at the first month of the season compared to now and its pretty evident that he is not entirely the same player as what he was when he started the season. Doing anything to accelerate that process and make him tire out even quicker isn't the smartest thing to do (even if that means quinn gets some limited minutes). How we monitor Manu down the stretch of the season and during this unfortunate situation could very well determine our fate during the playoffs. It's pretty obvious that if we don't have our best Manu during the playoffs then this team has no shot.

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    Manu would only have to play the "PG" position 15 minutes at most (worst case scenario against tough opponents/close games) in our proposed "best" scenario for the guard rotation.

    That my friend is not overplaying Manu at the point guard position.
    Probably puts ten minutes on him. If you really think it's a better idea to play him 42 minutes a game than to bring in Arroyo on a ten day contract, then your concern for the finances of the Spurs is touching.

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    I'm willing to sacrifice a couple W's and am for sure willing to accept Quinn getting some limited minutes if it helps guarantee the fact that we have a healthy Manu during the playoffs. Relying on Manu and increasing his load right now because Parker is out is the absolute wrong thing to do when its pretty evident that he is wearing down with the load he has already been carrying this season.

    Spurs fans are beginning to forget that Health>HCA although we are in a nice position to get/have both.

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    You are saying something perhaps the entire spur fan base in existent knows.

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    It could be. He is clearly wearing down down at a pretty steady pace over the course of the season. Go look at the first month of the season compared to now and its pretty evident that he is not entirely the same player as what he was when he started the season. Doing anything to accelerate that process and make him tire out even quicker isn't the smartest thing to do. How we monitor Manu down the stretch of the season and during this unfortunate situation could very well determine our fate during the playoffs. It's pretty obvious that if we don't have our best Manu during the playoffs then this team has no shot.

    I'm not talking about about Manu's regression as of late. That has nothing to do with my argument. My argument is to put the best players on the floor, giving the Spurs the best chance to win ballgames while Tony is out. That scenario doesn't include Quinn taking minutes away from Anderson and even Neal to a lesser extent.

    And Manu playing more minutes at the guard slot that is labeled point guard, won't tire or wear him down any more than when he plays the SG spot; since his responsibilities are always the same by being the facilitator and creator or "captain" in half-court sets (especially when Tony is not on the floor). By the way, being the facilitator and creator in half-court sets is typically a major responsibility of "true" point guards; which is something Quinn is not (FWIW).


    All in all, taking away some of Manu's minutes at the labeled SG slot for Neal/Anderson and giving a little more minutes to Manu at the labeled PG position would be an ideal scenario that gives the Spurs the best chance to win ball games (from the wing/guard rotation perspective).

    FWIW- In the end of this proposed scenario, since you are convinced I'm trying to say Manu should play 40 minutes a night; Manu would play relatively the same amount of minutes since his minutes at the 3 and 2 would slightly decline in favor of giving Anderson and Neal more run over Quinn.

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    I see what you are saying and it makes sense to an extent. There are plenty of times where Manu is on the floor though at the 2 or 3 position where he is not being the main facilitator/creator in the offense and is giving those responsibilities up to the likes of Hill or someone. Every minute Manu is on the court he isn't necessarily being our true PG like you are saying (there are plenty of times where he doesn't even touch the ball during the possession when playing the 2 or 3) and expecting him to start being our facilitator/creator on every single play while he is on the court is indeed increasing his workload/responsibilities without necessarily increasing his minutes.

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    That MaNu4Tres cat be in y'all's world up and .

    Chris Quinn is a third-string point guard. Cat shouldn't see the court unless there's a blowout in the game or unless the two cats in front lose their knees in a boating accident - on the court.

    He is white and from Indiana though. He's a pretty tough kid, too. Can't say I don't get a laugh out of seeing Pop throw out his Whiteyball lineup. Funny .

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    At this point I would rather have Sequ running the point. Quinn is a disaster. Get us Temple, Arroyo, literally anybody, I don't care. This guy cannot run a team at all. He's basically an undersized two, and can just stand in the corners and shoot wide open jumpers if Manu is creating, but that's about it. He can't run any sets, he can't run a Pick-and-roll, he can't do anything. If he's the point guard the team literally never, ever gets anything resembling a quality shot.

    Also, he SUCKS on defense.

    That is all.
    Give him a break...Tiago Splitter sucks too but everybody seems to have a hardon for him...
    Quinn is fine for a 3rd stringer..

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    Quinn was awful today, and he is a marginal player (mostly because he's an open door on D). I had some respect for what he did in his first few games here, but he was exposed again today, and it should be for the final time.

    WTF are we doing ignoring Garrett Temple? Kid KICKED ARSE when he filled in last year. Bring Temple back for sake.


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    Quinn was awful today, and he is a marginal player (mostly because he's an open door on D). I had some respect for what he did in his first few games here, but he was exposed again today, and it should be for the final time.

    WTF are we doing ignoring Garrett Temple? Kid KICKED ARSE when he filled in last year. Bring Temple back for sake.

    1) Temple had his chance at the start of the season, and he didn't capitalize on it. The only people who get second chances from Pop are Bonner and Finley.

    2) He's already has been called up by the Bobcats.

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    Quinn=GOAT

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