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    You didn't answer the question.
    apparently, he would do nothing. yet he criticizes Obama for doing nothing

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    You didn't answer the question.
    Sure I did. I would not have openly advocated toppling Mubarek.

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    And of course, meanwhile, Obama is pondering the really important stuff like who to pick in his NCAA brackets...

    I resent this. He actually had a very important summit on bullying last week.

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    What would you do, Darrin?

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    apparently, he would do nothing. yet he criticizes Obama for doing nothing
    Or because something was done in one country one way that the same way must be used in all situations.

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    CC would rather support a dictator. I'm not shocked.

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    CC would rather support a dictator. I'm not shocked.
    We already do. Even Kings and Princes. It's called accepting reality and preferring the status quo over change. Whats so hard to understand about that?

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    I'm not convinced that a political change in Bahrain would be either a complete coup or completely hostile to the US. CC will have to do a better job of scaring me.

    After he tells me what he would do about this as president, of course.

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    We already do. Even Kings and Princes. It's called accepting reality and preferring the status quo over change. Whats so hard to understand about that?
    why don't you accept reality and afford freedoms to the people. they are willing to give their lives for it.

    tell us how it benefits you for them to have a boot on their throats. are you willing to give your life to keep your boot on their throats?

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    We already do. Even Kings and Princes. It's called accepting reality and preferring the status quo over change. Whats so hard to understand about that?
    I don't support any dictators. My government may, but thats not me. I support freedom for all people in the world.

    The reality is that people are under the rule of dictators around the world but I don't see why I have to support that. That is not reality.

    You may prefer that over change, but I prefer people be free. The people of Egypt do me no good under a dictator and I would never wish that upon them. The goals of the United States government and their interests rarely overlap with mine.

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    You guys crack me up. We went in and overthrew a dictator and set up a democratic government in Iraq and you guys HATED that. Now when I say we are better off leaving them all alone y'all want to argue that I love dictators and y'all are freedom lovers. Make up your ing minds!

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    You guys crack me up. We went in and overthrew a dictator and set up a democratic government in Iraq and you guys HATED that. Now when I say we are better off leaving them all alone y'all want to argue that I love dictators and y'all are freedom lovers. Make up your ing minds!
    You haven't said anything about what you would do about Bahrain as president after you castigated Obama for doing nothing about Bahrain.

    Are you now saying you would do nothing about Bahrain now, just as Obama has done nothing (that anyone knows of)?

    Make up your mind.

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    Sure I did. I would not have openly advocated toppling Mubarek.
    Mubarek is not the leader of Bahrain.

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    You guys crack me up. We went in and overthrew a dictator and set up a democratic government in Iraq and you guys HATED that. Now when I say we are better off leaving them all alone y'all want to argue that I love dictators and y'all are freedom lovers. Make up your ing minds!
    Advocating freedom >< Advocating the Americans go in and setup a government in a place that should actually be three countries much to the benefit of American foreign policy.

    You can create all the straw men you want but just because I advocate that people be allowed to choose their own destiny and be free if they so wish that doesn't mean I advocate our government toppling dictators around the world.

    You're going to have to search a bit harder than that for my beliefs to be at odds with themselves.

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    You haven't said anything about what you would do about Bahrain as president after you castigated Obama for doing nothing about Bahrain.

    Are you now saying you would do nothing about Bahrain now, just as Obama has done nothing (that anyone knows of)?

    Make up your mind.
    Try to stay up Chump. You obviously missed my post about how it all started in Egypt. I'm not going to retype it.

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    Try to stay up Chump. You obviously missed my post about how it all started in Egypt. I'm not going to retype it.
    And of course, meanwhile, Obama is pondering the really important stuff like who to pick in his NCAA brackets...
    That was about Bahrain.

    Not Egypt.

    Since you complained that Obama is not doing anything about Bahrain, what would you do about Bahrain were you in his position?

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    Chump, please, you are not that stupid. These countries are all politically and religiously interconnected and border each other in North Africa...Libya, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain...they don't exist in a vacuum. Obama threw the weight of the United States behind the rebels in Egypt with no apparent thought to the consequences. Why do you think these folks getting shot down and bombed in Libya are now begging for our help? They thought we would do the same for them...They all saw it work in Egypt and think they can pull it off in their own country. Oops. Not when it goes against our own geo-political interests. So Sorry.

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    Chump, please, you are not that stupid. These countries are all politically and religiously interconnected and border each other in North Africa...Libya, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain...they don't exist in a vacuum. Obama threw the weight of the United States behind the rebels in Egypt with no apparent thought to the consequences. Why do you think these folks getting shot down and bombed in Libya are now begging for our help? They thought we would do the same for them...They all saw it work in Egypt and think they can pull it off in their own country. Oops. Not when it goes against our own geo-political interests. So Sorry.
    Again, you aren't saying what you would do about Bahrain after complaining that Obama was doing nothing about Bahrain.

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    You guys crack me up. We went in and overthrew a dictator and set up a democratic government in Iraq and you guys HATED that. Now when I say we are better off leaving them all alone y'all want to argue that I love dictators and y'all are freedom lovers. Make up your ing minds!

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    Again, you aren't saying what you would do about Bahrain after complaining that Obama was doing nothing about Bahrain.
    Will you concede that Obama stepped on his in Egypt? He practically CREATED the problem in Bahrain, and next Saudi Arabia. Now he needs to sit back and watch our Allies slaughter their protesting citizens and not say a ing thing.

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    How many American servicemen and women died in the Egyptian coup, jack?

    Give me a number.

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    Will you concede that Obama stepped on his in Egypt? He practically CREATED the problem in Bahrain, and next Saudi Arabia. Now he needs to sit back and watch our Allies slaughter their protesting citizens and not say a ing thing.
    So you are now walking back from your complaint about Obama's doing nothing about Bahrain.

    OK.

    No you can try to convince me why I should be so scared about a move to a more democratic Bahrain.

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    13? I don't know. Why don't you tell us?
    Last edited by jack sommerset; 03-15-2011 at 05:26 PM.

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    Where did you get this number?

    Show us a link.

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    So you are now walking back from your complaint about Obama's doing nothing about Bahrain.

    OK.

    No you can try to convince me why I should be so scared about a move to a more democratic Bahrain.
    I don't have to try to convince you of anything. I'm sure a Shia controlled Bahrain government that threw the 5th Fleet out of the country and served as a model for overthrowing Saudi Arabia would please you just fine. A bunch of freaking Mullas controlling 60% of the worlds oil would just be peachy keen.

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