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    What Walker has committed in WI is a strategy that will be coming to other states.

    While claiming a budget crisis, he gives away $100Ms to UCA. Like all Repug politicians, he's a liar and a fraud.

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    What Walker has committed in WI is a strategy that will be coming to other states.

    While claiming a budget crisis, he gives away $100Ms to UCA. Like all Repug politicians, he's a liar and a fraud.
    Well, you have your opinion, but like the boy who always cries wolf, why should I believe a damn thing you say?

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    Interesting.

    Large... Not a majority?
    A majority.

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    I could give a rat's ass about Walker and this recall election....but Walker out-raised Barret 9-1 mostly with the help of out-of-state-donors...on top of that, Walker had a considerable PAC advantage, the RGA alone ran $8 million dollars of anti-Barret ads...given that, Walker outspent his opponent by a 10-1 margin...that's democracy in America....yippee..

    Nice message...
    Yet when Obama outspends Romney on his way to a victory in November, you'll be okay with that....

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    I don't think there's enough money to buy the election this time.

    He outspent McCain by how much last time, and won by how much?

    Did his "hope and change" bring real hope, or only leave change in people's pockets?

    My God...

    He almost lost to McCain of all people!

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    Count 'Em: 30 Billionaires Now Backing Romney's Super PAC

    As of Sunday, at least 30 billionaires — 7.5% of the Forbes 400 — had donated money to Restore Our Future, a Mitt Romney-backing super PAC, either personally, through their companies or both.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoco...eys-super-pac/

    The 0.01%ers will buy the WH for their boy Gecko.

    And the current Republican economy will get much worse for the 99% and insanely much better for the 1%, for decades.

    America is ed and un able.

    There's a good chance the single OWS-aligned candidate Warren, absolutely detested by the financial sector as Mama of the CFPB, will be outspent by Wall St donating $10Ms to Brown

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    Funny....the Obama non supporters in here were not whining about all that money Obama had is 2008. We were concerned about his record or lack of one. Hoping all along he would do what he said he would do. It didn't happen. The big promises never kept. And of course the famous passing of the crazy health care law that nobody read. That big bribe switched a lot of colors in the house stopping Obama from doing more damage. I can go and on. Bottom line is people will give money for a good cause. They thought they were contributing to man of honor 4 years ago but they didn't. Now a veteran in campaign raising Obama will say and do anything to stay. I believe his policies are all up for sale. And who gives him the most money gets the prize. Never the less America has a voice and a vote. No amount of money will keep him in office. God bless

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    "all that money Obama had is 2008"

    millions of small donations dominated.

    With Gecko and post-CU, it's the 1% buying the White House with $Bs.

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    He outspent McCain by how much last time, and won by how much?
    By more than 2-to-1 where it counts.

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    UnaBomber and Charlie Manson will be speaking on global warming.
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    well, they had to spend all that money on sarah's wardrobe and pay all those consultants to teach her the alphabet.

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    "Walker's Republican campaign outspent Barrett's Democratic campaign by $30.5 million to $4 million - that's a 7.5 to 1 advantage. Another way of saying this is that of the $34.5 million spent on their campaigns, Walker spend 88% of the money.

    Walker beat Barrett by 1,316,989 votes to 1,145,190 votes - 53% to 46% (with 1% going to an independent candidate).

    Here's another way of saying that: Walker spent $23 for each vote he received, while Barrett spent only $3.47 per vote.

    But the reality is even worse than this, because the $34.5 million figure does not include so-called independent expenditures and issue ads paid for primarily by out-of-state billionaires (like the Koch brothers, Sheldon Adelson, and Joe Rickets), business groups, and the National Rifle Association, which were skewed even more heavily toward Walker. Once all this additional spending is calculated, we'll see that total spending in this race could be more than double the $34.5 million number, that Walker and his business allies outspent Barrett by an even wider margin, and that he had to spend even more than $23 for each vote.

    In other words, business and billionaires bought this election for Walker. The money paid for non-stop TV and radio ads as well as mailers. There's no doubt that if the Barrett campaign had even one-third of the war- chest that Walker had, it would have been able to mount an even more formidable grassroots get-out-the-vote campaign and put more money into the TV and radio air war. Under those cir stances, it is likely that Barrett would have prevailed.

    Pundits can have a field day pontificating about the Wisconsin election, but in the end its about how Big Money hijacked democracy in the Badger State on Tuesday, and how they're trying to do it again in November."

    http://readersupportednews.org/opini...53-of-the-vote

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    Yet when Obama outspends Romney on his way to a victory in November, you'll be okay with that....
    It was perfectly OK in 2008. No outrage then.

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    Before the election



    After the election
    Shape shifters. Interesting

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    It was perfectly OK in 2008. No outrage then.
    Outspending your opponent is not the issue. It's the source of the funds. A few billionaires vs many small donors. I rather have normal peoples' interests prevail over that of the 0.1%.

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    "Outspending your opponent is not the issue"

    It is.

    The outspender wins 90% of the time.

    govt, at all levels, is for sale. Human-Americans' votes are a charade, a fraud.

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    It was perfectly OK in 2008. No outrage then.
    Disparity in campaign funds is only something to be concerned about when it's your team who loses.

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    "Outspending your opponent is not the issue"

    It is.

    The outspender wins 90% of the time.

    govt, at all levels, is for sale. Human-Americans' votes are a charade, a fraud.
    I don't care if they win 100% of the time. If a candidate is outspending because he or she has the resources to - and they were gathered from normal people making different degrees of donations to express their different degrees of support - then that's fine with me. If 4 or 5 billionaires from out of state drop in million dollar donations that are immaterial to them and disproportionately influence the election, then the process has been hijacked.

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    "the process has been hijacked"

    which is the case, elections, govt at all levels, America, have been hijacked.

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    Would this be the same exit polling that showed the race was a dead heat, when in actuality Walker won by 7 points?

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    Would this be the same exit polling that showed the race was a dead heat, when in actuality Walker won by 7 points?
    umm...nnoooo..

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...it-polls.htmlf

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    pwnt

    losers gon lose

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    Your link appears to be broken - like the exit polls.

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    Your link appears to be broken - like the exit polls.
    You mean broken like Propaganda Dan?

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    Big-Lie Coup d'Etat

    JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, BP, Chevron, WalMart, and billionaires Charles and David Koch are launching a multi-million dollar TV ad buy Tuesday blasting President Obama over the national debt.

    Actually, I don't know who's behind this ad because there's no way to know. And that's a big problem.

    The front group for the ad is Crossroads GPS, the sister organization to the super PAC American Crossroads run by Republican political operative Karl Rove.

    Because Crossroads GPS is a tax-exempt nonprofit group, it can spend unlimited money on politics -- and it doesn't have to reveal where it gets the dough.

    By law, all it has to do is spend most of the money on policy "issues," which is a fig leaf for partisan politics.


    Here's what counts as an issue ad, as opposed to a partisan one. The narrator in the ad Crossroads GPS is launching solemnly intones: "In 2008, Barack Obama said, 'We can't mortgage our children's future on a mountain of debt.' Now he's adding $4 billion in debt every day, borrowing from China for his spending. Every second, growing our debt faster than our economy," he continues. "Tell Obama, stop the spending."

    This is a bald-faced lie
    , by the way.

    Obama isn't adding to the debt every day. The debt is growing because of obligations entered into long ago, many under George W. Bush -- including two giant tax cuts that went mostly to the very wealthy that were supposed to be temporary and which are still going, courtesy of Republican blackmail over raising the debt limit.

    In realty, government spending as a portion of GDP keeps dropping.


    As I said, I don't know who's financing this big lie but there's good reason to think it's some combination of Wall Street, big corporations, and the billionaire Koch brothers.

    According to the reliable inside-Washington source Politico, the Koch brothers' network alone will be spending $400 million over the next six months trying to defeat Obama, which is more than Senator John McCain spent on his entire 2008 campaign.

    Big corporations and Wall Street are also secretly funneling big bucks into front groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce that will use the money to air anti-Obama ads, while keeping secret the iden ies of these firms.

    Looking at the all the anti-Obama super PACs and political fronts like Crossroads GPS, Politico estimates the anti-Obama forces (including the Romney campaign) will outspend Obama and pro-Obama groups by 2 to 1.

    How can it be that big corporations and billionaires will be spending unlimited amounts on big lies like this one, without any accountability because no one will know where the money is coming from?

    Blame a majority of the Supreme Court in its grotesque 2010 Citizens United vs. Federal Election Commission decision -- as well as the IRS for lax enforcement that lets political front groups like Crossroads GPS or the U.S. Chamber of Commerce pretend they're not political.


    But you might also blame something deeper, more sinister.

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist (you can't have served in Washington and seriously believe more than two people can hold on to a big story without it leaking), but I fear that at least since 2010 we've been witnessing a quiet, slow-motion coup d'etat whose purpose is to repeal every bit of progressive legislation since the New Deal and entrench the privileged positions of the wealthy and powerful -- who haven't been as wealthy or as powerful since the Gilded Age of the late 19th century.

    Its technique is to inundate America with a few big lies, told over and over (the debt is Obama's fault and it's out of control; corporations and the very rich are the "job creators" that need tax cuts; government is the enemy, and its regulations are strangling the private sector; unions are bad; and so on), and tell them so often they're taken as fact.

    Then having convinced enough Americans that these lies are true, take over the White House, Congress, and remaining states that haven't yet suc bed to the regressive right (witness Tuesday's recall election in Wisconsin).

    I desperately hope I'm wrong, but there's growing evidence I may be right.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert...b_1571465.html

    Reich is Reight, and VRWC/UCA know their boy 0.01%er Gecko is exactly the huge dildo they need complete their coup d'etat, America harder.

    VRWC's boy in WI is the prototype Repug governor + legislature, and "macaca" Jindal in LA is another, shoveling taxpayer dollars to "Christian" indoctrination "schools".
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