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Well if a Mavs fan wants to start a thread disrepecting a Spurs' NBA Finals opponent maybe they should do it on a Mavs' board. Otherwise they leave themsleves open to their team, a second round and out, being disrespected.
uhhh, you sure bout that......Dallas actually played some defense this year
Well if a Mavs fan wants to start a thread disrepecting a Spurs' NBA Finals opponent maybe they should do it on a Mavs' board. Otherwise they leave themsleves open to their team, a second round and out, being disrespected.
Half of the playoff teams in the west can beat Detroit. I am not being bias. I just see the west is so much stronger than the east it is not even funny.
Detroit's record this year against ...
Dallas 1-1
Phoenix 1-1
Miami 6-4
Righhhht...
Who is this year's Erick Dampier to put the Mavs over the top??
You forgot Seattle and the game Detroit beat Phoenix was when Nash was injured.
Detroit's record against Seattle: 1-1
And, when Detroit played AT Phoenix with Nash in the line-up, Detroit had the lead late in the fourth, and ended up losing by THREE POINTS. Without Nash, Phoenix lost to Detroit by 14 points.
Does that prove either way that one team was better than the other? Does that prove that Detroit would have lost a seven game series to any of those other western conference teams mentioned?
Please, you sound like a delusional Mavs fan who is trying to reach for something that's not there.
Detroit would not beat Phoenix because they don't matchup well similar to San Antonio. Phoenix was on a losing streak when Detroit beat them and kinda hit a wall. I'm not saying that it is a guarantee that Detroit would lose but I would favor Phoenix especially and maybe Dallas or Seattle.
Totally Agree.
You're en led to your opinion, as am I.
Dallas was exposed in the Houston series. Rasheed has the height, length, and athleticism to keep Dirk in check, just as Tracy McGrady was able to do. Jason Terry needed to pick it up for Dirk, but both Chauncey and Rip would give Terry problems. I think Detroit would beat Dallas in a seven game series.
Phoenix-Detroit would be very interesting. I think it would be a toss up between the two teams, but I like Detroit's defense against Phoenix.
I personally feel Seattle played way over its head all season long. Shut down either Ray Allen OR Rashard Lewis, and that team is very beatable. Detroit could do that.
Dirk sucked in the playoffs. Talk about overated. A no defense, fade away, jump shooting clanker who bagged on his teammates all the while missing his own defensive assignments.
Billups hasn't given anyone major problems this playoffs. Terry has more strength to handle Billups in case because he is more like a 1.5 guard. Detroit would not shut down Phoenix for sure because even San Antonio couldn't shut down Phoenix. Seattle is for real and gave San Antonio its toughest challenge even without Lewis and Radmanovic.
I'll admit Dirk should've done better. Playoff pressure does alot of things to alot of players and Dirk playing against great defense in a playoff pressure situation didn't get it done. Mcgrady has long arms and is 6'8 which gave Nowitzki the most trouble.
Even in these two lopsided Spurs wins, Chauncey Billups has completely manhandled Tony Parker. Have you not watched the match-up in these two games?
And, even if Jason Terry is 1.5 guard, he's still smaller and weaker than Chauncey Billups. Billups has at least an inch and about 25 pounds on Jet.
In their two matchups, stats:
Chauncey Billups
36 minutes, 7-14 FG, 24 points
38 minutes, 8-15, 23 points
Jason Terry
19 minutes, 2-8, 5 points
30 minutes, 2-10, 5 points
I still don't believe that R. Wallace is the Dirk stopper. I could see Prince giving Dirk more trouble.
how exactly has he manhandled parker? even pop was giving parker props for his defensive effort tonight. billups went 6-14 tonight, while the manhandled parker was 6-9...
I would think Josh Howard would do a good job on Richard Hamilton so it would be a close series.
I don't think the Pistons are overrated myself, they just ran into a better team in the Spurs. I think that Nike commercial sums it up best. "There is no urge greater than hunger. It will... devour you." On top of the Spurs suffocating Defense and arsenal of offensive weapons, they have that most worthy of intangibles, the hunger, the drive to win. The Pistons had it last year, but it seems like this year they just don't want it as badly. Maybe it's because they already proved they could do it. As for the Spurs, they got robbed last year with the whole 0.4 fiasco and are out to erase that memory. Just two more wins and they will be there.
Robbed? I don't think so. Did Fisher close his eyes on that shot? Did he stumble? Rules state that you can catch and shoot with .04. Play reviewed and ruled good. That basket was what maybe took the heart out of your team but you still had a chance to win the series so please don't give me this robbed stuff.
I'm not going to start another debate about 0.4. To Lakers fans, it was an amazing shot in their history that helped them knock the wind out of and ultimately vanquish the team that got in the way of their potential 4-peat. To Spurs fans like myself, we feel the clock was not operated properly (it is physically impossible to catch, turn, and shoot in 0.4) and the shot shouldn't have counted. I was merely trying to say that I'm sure it is in the back of a lot of the Spurs players minds and feeds their intense hunger to win it all this year.
So you're saying it's the timekeepers fault? Mechanical malfunction? Dude, you are really living in Denial Land if you think that shot was the deciding factor in the series. The shot was legal and we were the better team last year. It's a slap in the face to all Laker fans when you reach real deep down like that to come up with something that is even more improbable than the basket in question.
Don't tell me you weren't involved in these debates at the time. I think it was the only topic on the boards then. And we are getting off topic. This thread was about whether or not the Pistons were overrated. And I was saying they were not. IMO, they could never be overrated after watching how they decimated the Lakers (the "better team") in the Finals last year.
I was not involved in any .04 debates before. This is the first year we haven't been in the playoffs for a long time so this is the first time I have been on any board other than a Laker board.
You want to take cheap shots at the Lakers even though you guys were the ones sitting at home last year? I don't want to start because most Spurs fans here seem likeable and reasonable. You are the exception. We were the better team, we advanced. Just like the previous year the Spurs were the better team. If you were the better team you would have won the series.
The REALLY miss Corliss Williamson. Right now, they don't have a small forward that can come off of the bench because they left Carlos Delfino off of the playoff roster. Corliss was a matchup nightmare for any small forward in the league when he posted them up on the block. IMO, that is what the Pistons are lacking from last year.
Parker was ok on offense.
The FIVE FOULS on Parker is telling. Chauncey has shown in both games that if he wanted to go into the post, he could work Parker fairly easily. The FG % does not tell the whole story. Chauncey has outplayed Tony Parker so far.
Unfortunately for the Pistons and Detroit fans, all of the other Spurs have outplayed all of the other Pistons.
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