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    also where was the foreign support $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ when new orleans got destoyed
    There was plenty. You are just ignorant of it.

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    I dont consider myself a birther or a truther. I consider myself the type of person who believes that these viewpoints should be available for civil discourse without MSM-trained parrots mocking-on-cue, with pre-fabbed talking points.

    Hats off to Trump for thinking for his damn self, and having the balls to express his opinion regardless of backlash.
    so you give hats off to Trump for expressing his opinion when you fail to give your own.

    You...not so much...
    that's a lie.

    I absolutely have no problem expressing my opinion regardless of backlash. Plenty of threads floating around this messageboard can easily confirm that.

    My opinion is that Obama is a U.S. citizen.

    Why are you uncomfortable with taking a side here?

    Why do you waver because of something Trump said on the View?

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    I think their debt was less than half of 1% of our debt.
    absolute size, or per capita? There's a difference.

    Iceland crisis was another example of how financial regulation/privatization always leads to financial disasters, sooner or later. Iceland freed its banks in 2000, disaster in 2008.

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    so you give hats off to Trump for expressing his opinion when you fail to give your own.



    that's a lie.

    I absolutely have no problem expressing my opinion regardless of backlash. Plenty of threads floating around this messageboard can easily confirm that.

    My opinion is that Obama is a U.S. citizen.

    Why are you uncomfortable with taking a side here?

    Why do you waver because of something Trump said on the View?
    Thats the problem with too many folks these days....they think an opinion is enough.

    If its not informed, then its not worth .

    If I tell you I dont have an opinion, then take that as I dont know enough about both sides to give my opinion.

    Novel concept, I know.

    But I applaude Trumps balls whether I agree or not.

    I tire of the sheep parade, this is refreshing...


    Otherwise,

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    My opinion is that Obama is a U.S. citizen.

    Why are you uncomfortable with taking a side here?
    Kinda hard to take a side when it's a question that very few people will ever factually know the answer to.

    Doesn't have to do with opinion.

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    Thats the problem with too many folks these days....they think an opinion is enough.

    If its not informed, then its not worth .

    If I tell you I dont have an opinion, then take that as I dont know enough about both sides to give my opinion.

    Novel concept, I know.

    But I applaude Trumps balls whether I agree or not.

    I tire of the sheep parade, this is refreshing...


    Otherwise,
    If you need information on Obama's birth, just ask.

    If would make you look a lot less foolish than posting a youtube and taking your hat off to an ignorant Donald Trump.

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    Kinda hard to take a side when it's a question that very few people will ever factually know the answer to.

    Doesn't have to do with opinion.
    It's not hard at all to pick a side on this one.

    There is plenty of evidence that he's a citizen.

    There is no evidence that he's not.

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    There was plenty. You are just ignorant of it.
    link to support other contries gave money to the usa in that disaster
    since they are so many

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    Judging from the $1B in aid that was declined, mislaid or went otherwise unclaimed, foreign largesse after Katrina was considerable.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

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    link to support other contries gave money to the usa in that disaster
    since they are so many
    Pledges and donations from countries

    Below is a list of countries who offered aid. Some of these efforts were not formally accepted by the U.S. government (see "Actual Funds Used" below).

    Afghanistan

    Donated $100,000 to the hurricane victims.

    Albania

    Donated $308,000.

    Argentina

    Made offers of help and assistance. Argentina also dispatched an elite team of bilingual mental health professionals.

    Armenia

    Pledged $200,000 and made offers of help and assistance.

    Australia

    A$10 million (approximately US$7.5 million), and a team of 1,000 emergency response officers immediately. Donated A$20 million to American Red Cross.

    Austria

    140 specialists of the AFDRU were put on stand-by. Their focus was to have been on providing clean water with portable water-treatment plants. Within the EU Emergency Assistance for Katrina, Austria set up a communication network using IT and communication equipment for assistance/support, provided 10 sets petrol driven dirty water pumps, 500 pieces tarps/plastic sheeting and 300 camp beds.

    Azerbaijan

    Donated $500,000.

    The Bahamas

    Pledged $50,000.

    Bahrain

    Donated $5 million.

    Belarus

    Helped out and offered medical assistance.

    Belgium

    Offered 3 Medical teams of 31 personnel, logistic team of 10 personnel, coordination team of 4 personnel, civil engineering team of 10 personnel, diving team, and also balloon-lamps, low and high capacity pumps and small generators.

    Bosnia and Herzegovina

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Brunei

    Donated $1 million.

    Cambodia

    The king donated $20,000 to match the $20,000 Cambodian government donation.

    Canada

    September 5, 35 military divers were poised to depart by air Sunday from Halifax and Esquimalt, B.C., for the New Orleans area. September 4, On the request from U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Canada sent thousands of beds, blankets, surgical gloves and dressings and other medical supplies. On September 2 the Government of Canada announced it was sending three warships along with a Coast Guard vessel, and three Sea King helicopters to the area. Over 1,000 personnel are involved in the operation, including engineers and navy divers. The Canadian Heavy Urban Search and Rescue out of Vancouver was in Louisiana from September 1, due to security they started their mission on Sept 3. Ontario Hydro, Hydro-Québec, and Manitoba Hydro, along with other electrical utilities, had crews set to go to the affected areas. On September 2 Air Canada participated along with U.S. member airlines of the Air Transport Association, in a voluntary airline industry initiative to support rescue and relief operations. Money donations although where very high, the province of Alberta alone threw in 5 million dollars. Although it is hard to put an exact number on Canadian cash donations because of some Canadians donating directly to the American agencies, Canada is widely believed to be the highest international donor nation, and was the only country in the world to supply direct military assistance in addition to civilian donations and supplies as the US Government declined direct military support from all other nations.

    People's Republic of China

    On September 2, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that it will offer $5 million along with emergency supplies, including 1,000 tents, 600 generators, bed sheets, immediately for disaster relief. China also offered to send medical care and rescue workers if they were needed. This aid package consisting of 104 tons of supplies later arrived in Little Rock, Arkansas. A chartered plane carrying the supplies arrived on September 7.

    Republic of China (Taiwan)

    Pledged more than $3 million to the relief effort, plus supplies.

    Colombia

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Cuba

    One of the first countries to offer aid, Cuba offered to send 1,586 doctors and 26 tons of medicine. This aid was rejected by the State Department.[17] Also, before the 2006 World Baseball Classic, Cuba said they would donate their share of the winnings to Katrina victims to ensure the United States embargo against Cuba was not violated. However, after the tournament, the U.S. government refused to allow the donation.

    Cyprus

    Offered $50,000.

    Czech Republic

    Offered rescue teams, field hospital and pumps and water processing equipment.

    Denmark

    Offered water purification units.

    Djibouti

    Offered $50,000.

    Dominica

    Offered police to monitor hard-hit areas.

    Dominican Republic

    Offered rescue workers, doctors and nurses.

    Ecuador

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Egypt

    Sent 2 C-130 planes loaded with blankets, medical equipment, and canned food.

    El Salvador

    Offered to send troops to help keep order in New Orleans.

    Equatorial Guinea

    Pledged $500,000.

    Finland

    The Finn Rescue Force—the group consists of 30 firemen was offered by the Finnish Government but refused. The Finnish Red Cross sent three Red Cross logistics experts.

    $100,000 was given by the Finnish government to be distributed by U.S. authorities. A Finnish cruise ship, Finnjet, operated by Silja Lines, was sent to Baton Rouge for use by the LSU Department of Medicine. 9,000 sheets, 1,000 pillowcases, 200 small tarps, 200 first aid kits, 120 cooler cases and 3,500 thermo sheets were sent to Little Rock for distribution in Louisiana. Nokia donated $1 million to the U.S. Red Cross and matched employee contributions at 100 percent. Mobile phones were donated to shelters in Dallas, Houston and San Antonio.

    Additionally Finland offered 300 tents, a water purification unit, sterile gloves, bed sheets, pillow covers, tarps and first aid kits.

    France

    Concrete help was refused by the US government initially, however on September 2, Condoleezza Rice said that the US authorities would assess the situation and contact French authorities accordingly. On September 4, US authorities formally requested French assistance. France offered disaster relief stocks prepositioned in Martinique (600 tents, around 1000 beds, 60 electrogenic groups, 3 pumps, 3 water purification stations, 1000 folding jerricanes and other material). A 35-person team of the Sécurité civile (Civil defence) from Guadeloupe and Martinique were made ready, and a 60-man "catastrophe intervention" aeromobile detachment were prepared to be ferried from mainland in a short time. The Ministry of Defence offered 2 planes already in the zone and 6 more from mainland France, and two ships of the French Navy (probably the BATRAL Francis Garnier or Champlain, and the frigate Ventôse) and a 20-person team of emergency medical specialists. The non-governmental organisation Télécoms sans frontières and the company Véolia environnement offered aid in communications and water management, respectively. On September 7, the Ministry for Foreign Affairs stated that an Airbus Beluga from Toulouse with 12,7 tonnes of supplies flew to Mobile, Alabama, after a brief stop in the UK to load more food. Two Casa airplanes from Martinique landed in Little Rock, Arkansas, ferrying tents, covers and 1000 rations of food for 24 hours.

    Gabon

    Pledged $500,000.

    Georgia

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Germany

    Two German Army Airbus planes landed in Florida with about 25 tonnes of food rations to be transported to the disaster area. Further planes were prepared. Germany offered airlifting, vaccination, water purification, medical supplies including German air force hospital planes, emergency electrical power and pumping services. The aid was ready to go on German air force and chartered planes. A team of specialists from THW (German federal agency for technical relief) were planning technical measures and logistics in close contact with local authorities. A team of 89 flood fighting specialists and 5 medical personnel were dispatched from Ramstein Air Base to Louisiana by the United States Air Force. They brought 15 high performance pumps (10 pumps with a capacity of 15,000 litres per minute and 5 pumps with a capacity of 5,000 litres per minute) and 28 vehicles. On Saturday, September 10 at 4:30 p.m., the THW started the first 15,000 litre pump at pumping-station No. 19. Three other 15,000 litres pumps followed. The drainage of New Orleans would have taken much more time if these pumps and the THW specialists had not been provided.
    The Minister-President of the federal state of Rhineland-Palatinate addressed a letter to the commanders of the American forces stationed in his state offering financial support to those affected by the flooding.
    Another German Air Force cargo plane carrying several thousand military rations (MRE) was denied entry into US airspace since, according to US authorities, they were not certified BSE-free. This was disputed by German authorities, pointing out that they were BSE-free according to NATO rules, that US soldiers would eat them regularly during joint operations (e.g. Afghanistan) and that these meals fully complied to UN rules.

    Greece

    Offered $85,000, two cruise ships to house those left homeless, a rescue team, and supplies.

    Guatemala

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Guyana

    Made offers of help and assistance and organized a telethon to raise money for victims.

    Honduras

    Offered 135 flooding and sanitation experts.

    Hungary

    Pledged $5,000 and offered to send a Special Search and Rescue Team, and also five doctors.

    Iceland

    Offered $500,000.

    India

    India offered to contribute $5 million to the United States Red Cross for relief and rehabilitation of the victims. They also offered to donate medicines and large water purification systems for use in households and small communities in the stricken areas, where potable water was a key concern. India sent tarps, blankets and hygiene kits. An Indian Air Force IL-76 aircraft delivered 25 tonnes of relief supplies for the Hurricane Katrina victims at the Little Rock Air Force Base, Arkansas on September 13, 2005.

    Indonesia

    Offered to send 45 doctors and 155 other medical staffers and 10,000 blankets to help survivors.

    Iran

    Offered to send humanitarian aid and 20 million barrels (3,200,000 m3) of crude oil.

    Iraq

    Pledged $1 million to the Red Cross via the Red Crescent.

    Republic of Ireland

    Offered to send 30 members of the Irish Defence Forces. The Irish army would have supplied thousands of ready meals, tents, blankets, water purification services and medical aid, including first aid kits, crutches and wheelchairs. The group would have included about ten experts in stress debriefing. Six of the troops would have operated two water purification plants. The Irish Government also announced it is to provide initial funding of EUR 1.2 million for the victims.

    Israel

    Offered field hospitals and hundreds of doctors, nurses, technicians and other experts in trauma, natural disasters and public health.[29]
    An Israeli airlift arrived in Little Rock, Arkansas with an eighty-ton shipment of humanitarian aid, including baby food, diapers, water, ready-to-eat meals, clothes, tents, blankets, mattresses, stretchers, first aid kits, wheelchairs, and other medical supplies.
    The Magen David Adom began "United Brotherhood Operation," which sent a plane-load of supplies and financial assistance.
    IsraAid sent a delegation of medical personnel, psychologists, and experienced search-and-rescue divers. The 18-member team — which included physicians, mental health professionals, trauma specialists, logistics experts and a special unit of Israeli police divers — arrived in St. Bernard Parish and Plaquemines Parish on Sept. 10 and spent a week and a half assisting fire department search-and-rescue squads and sitting in on daily planning meetings that included local leadership and a complement of Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), police, military and fire representativesmedical team.
    Five universities in Israel welcomed displaced American students from the affected areas and invited both undergraduate and graduate students to continue their studies in Israel. In particular, medical students unable to attend the Tulane University in New Orleans can attend Tel Aviv University's Sackler School of Medicine.

    Italy

    Italy offered to send two Hercules C130 cargo aircraft fitted with emergency aids, including 300 Adult camp beds, 300 blankets, 600 sheets, 1 suction pump, 6 lifecrafts, 11.200 chlorine tablets, 5 units of large first aid kits, baby food formula pumps, tents and power generators. Italy also offered to send some experts of the Protezione Civile to help coordinating relief efforts in the damaged area.

    Jamaica

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Japan

    $15 million in aid for Katrina

    Jordan

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Kenya

    Offered $100,000. There were also early reports of $400 million in petroleum products being donated from Kenya, though these later proved to be erroneous.

    South Korea

    Offered $ 30 million and dispatched a rescue team.

    Kuwait

    Parliament approved $500 million for aid in oil and other humanitarian aid.

    Latvia

    Offered a disaster relief team

    Lithuania

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Luxembourg

    Team of five persons, 1000 camp beds and 2000 blankets.

    Malaysia

    Pledged $1 million to American Red Cross.

    Maldives

    Sent $25,000 to American Red Cross.

    Mauritania

    Promised $200,000 to American Red Cross.

    Malta

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Mexico

    Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas received almost 196 Mexican troops, 14 truckloads of water, a mobile surgical unit, 45 military vehicles, 3 tons of purified water, and more than 250 tons of food, bottled water, canned food, disposable diapers and medical supplies. The Mexican Government sent $1 million through the Mexican Red Cross which collected an additional million, as well as 200 tons of food delivered in five airplanes from the Mexican Air Force by another Mexican Government body. The Mexican Navy sent two ships, 385 troopers, eight all-terrain vehicles, seven amphibious vehicles, two tankers, two helicopters, radio communication equipment, medical personnel and 296 tons of food as well. The state of Jalisco also sent four experts in disaster, while the Federal government offered to send expert teams in epidemiology and to cover the costs of returning any Mexican national back to Mexico.

    Mongolia

    Pledged $50,000.

    Nepal

    Pledged $25,000.

    The Netherlands

    Royal Netherlands Navy Frigate Hr. Ms. Van Amstel arrived from the Netherlands Antilles. The frigate was filled with supplies and had helicopters on board that can be used in rescue actions. Further, The Netherlands sent experts on the subject of water containment and dikes, identification teams and pumps to deliver clean drinking water, F-16s with sophisticated infra red or thermography camera pods (to look for weaknesses in the levees, corpses and hidden survivors) and divers from the Royal Netherlands Marine Corps. On September 7 The U.S. government announced that it would take up the Dutch government's offer to send water pumps, and also five water management experts.

    New Zealand

    Main article: New Zealand response to Hurricane Katrina
    Pledged $2 million though the Red Cross. This contribution was in addition to the offers the government has already made to send an Urban Search and Rescue Team, a Disaster Victim Identification team or post disaster recovery personnel.

    Nicaragua

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Nigeria

    Pledged $1 million to hurricane disaster relief.

    Norway

    Made offers of help and assistance. An amount of NOK 10 million was given through the Norwegian Red Cross and the UN. In addition, Norway offered divers and medicines.

    Oman

    Pledged $15 million.

    Pakistan

    On September 4 Pakistan offered to send a team of doctors and paramedics to support the relief agencies. Pakistan also pledged $1 million through the Red Cross.

    Palau

    Pledged $50,000.

    Papua New Guinea

    Promised $10,000 to American Red Cross.

    Paraguay

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Peru

    Offered to send 80-100 doctors to help survivors.

    Philippines

    Offered to send a 25-member team of aid workers. The Philippines Red Cross donated $25,000.

    Poland

    Made offers of help and assistance.

    Portugal

    Offered tents, mattresses, blankets, hygiene kits. Portugal lent 2% of its strategic oil reserve, equivalent to 500,000 barrels (79,000 m3) of oil.

    Qatar

    Pledged $100 million to the victims.

    Romania

    Offered 2 Teams of medical experts.

    Russia

    Was one of the first countries to offer assistance. Up to four jets were placed on standby at the Ramenskoe airport near Moscow as early as August 30, including heavy Ilyushin Il-76-TDs with special evacuation equipment, medical equipment, a water-cleansing system, a BK-117 rescue helicopter and two special cars; and a passenger IL-62, which brought 10 coordinators and 50 rescuers, as well as 6 tons of drinking water. On September 6, the Bush administration gave its approval.

    Saudi Arabia

    Saudi Refining, a Houston-based subsidiary of state oil firm Saudi Aramco, donated $5 million to the American Red Cross, as well as $250,000 from AGFUND.

    Singapore

    Three Singaporean CH-47 Chinook helicopters and thirty-eight RSAF personnel from a training detachment based in Grand Prairie, Texas assisted in relief operations from 1 September. They had so far ferried about 700 evacuees and hauled tons of supplies in 39 sorties on 4 September. One more CH-47 Chinook helicopter was sent to aid in relief efforts.

    Slovakia

    Promised blankets, beds, first aid kits.

    Slovenia

    $120,000 worth of cots, mattresses, blankets, temporary shelters and first-aid kits.

    Spain

    Spain sent 2.1 million barrels (330,000 m3) of crude oil from its strategic reserves (the 1.75% of the Spanish reserves) for a 30 day period. On September 7 two Hercules cargo aircraft took off with 15 tons of food rations, electrical generators and batteries, medical equipment and other humanitarian assistance collected by the Agencia Española de Cooperación Internacional (AECI). A second envoy was sent a few days later.

    Sri Lanka

    Pledged $25,000 for relief efforts.

    Sweden

    Sweden offered to send medical and technical aid, and a Hercules cargo aircraft filled with three complete GSM systems, first aid kits, blankets, Ready-to-eat meals, generators, 2 heavy water purification plants, as well as water sanitation experts. On September 4 the U.S. State Department declined the aid, saying it was currently unable to accept foreign aid packages. On September 12 the Hercules plane left the Gothenburg-Landvetter Airport, carrying a cargo of three Ericsson GSM network systems. A team of technical consultants to help with the aid package was also provided.

    Switzerland

    Switzerland offered specialised personnel and material to the USA and the World Health Organisation (WHO). In accordance with US requirements, 50 tonnes of rescue equipment were ready to be sent, along with two logisticians of the Direction du développement et de la coopération (DDC, "Swiss Agency for Development and Cooperation") to help coordinate distributions. Four physicians and two water specialists were also put to the disposal of the WHO.

    Thailand

    Sent at least 60 doctors and nurses along with rice.

    Tunisia

    Sent two C-130s with relief supplies.

    Turkey

    Promised $2.5 million in cash and aid.

    Uganda

    Offered $200,000.

    United Arab Emirates

    Pledged $100 million.

    United Kingdom

    The United Kingdom dispatched 500,000 ration packs worth EUR 3 million, to the region. However, many of the ration packs did not reach victims due to laws regarding mad cow disease. It also offered medical experts, Urban Search and Rescue equipment, Marine engineers and high-volume pumps, skilled personnel including engineers who could support recovery efforts for installations and systems, technicians, staff trained in disaster management and emergency response activities. It also pledged to release an extra 2.2 million barrels (350,000 m3) of oil.

    Venezuela

    President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela offered one million barrels of oil and 5 million dollars in aid to the United States. This aid was rejected by the State Department. State-owned Petróleos de Venezuela, the parent company of Citgo Petroleum Corporation, has also pledged a $2 million donation for hurricane aid. Two mobile hospital units were also offered, but were declined, according to Jesse Jackson.

    Vietnam

    Pledged $100,000.

    Yemen

    Pledged $100,000 through the Red Cross.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ricane_Katrina

    You're welcome.

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    why does he look like he's in "blackface" makeup?

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_167474.html

    He's a trustfund baby too. That's how he first got rich.
    Ohh now that makes sense. It's the only way you can start big business in this country anyway. Especially now that banks won't lend you a dime

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    If you need information on Obama's birth, just ask.

    If would make you look a lot less foolish than posting a youtube and taking your hat off to an ignorant Donald Trump.
    I'll ask: link to the birth certificate?

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    I'll ask: link to the birth certificate?

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    Blake, that isn't the original, cut clearly marked "copy" at the bottom.

    That's what the birthers are concerned about. The want to see the original.

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    Blake, that isn't the original, cut clearly marked "copy" at the bottom.

    That's what the birthers are concerned about. The want to see the original.
    that's why birthers are idiots.

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    that's why birthers are idiots.
    I'm in agreement to a certain point. They are almost, but not quite as bad as conspiracy theorists. Now I don't think most believe what they are saying, but just using it as a political tool. The archived newspaper reporting of his birth should be good enough.

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    Blake....your attempt to belittle those with differing opinions is a complete failure here.

    Thats not a birth certificate. it is a certification of live birth.

    read at the bottom. it says "prima facie evidence in a court of law." If it was a birth certificate, its more than prima facie. its conclusive evidence.

    And WC, the argument is that the original remains out of the public view, and they keep presenting this as a "legal" subs ute, which they claims proves the existence of the original. But they wont show the original.

    And I still admit that I dont know enough to make a truther's case...

    yet I know more than you two.

    try another theory blake.
    Last edited by Parker2112; 03-25-2011 at 10:05 PM.

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    And I still admit that I dont know enough to make a truther's case...

    yet I know more than you two.
    then no you don't.

    try another theory blake.
    my theory is that you are a birther in disguise.

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    you were ignorant as to the facts i just presented...yet you continue to stubbornly argue?

    check yo head fool.

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    again...your opinion is till you inform yourself.

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    Parker, even if he wasn't born here, all acceptable evidence says he was. The burden would be to prove he wasn't.

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    Parker, even if he wasn't born here, all acceptable evidence says he was. The burden would be to prove he wasn't.
    WC. Dude. Cmon. Hes the President. Its up to him to prove fitness. And it should be readily available to every citizen of this nation.

    Thats our right.

    Dont give us the modern equivalent. Dont give us a certification. Give us the real thing. No ifs ands or buts. And if not, why the not?

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    WC. Dude. Cmon. Hes the President. Its up to him to prove fitness. And it should be readily available to every citizen of this nation.

    Thats our right.

    Dont give us the modern equivalent. Dont give us a certification. Give us the real thing. No ifs ands or buts. And if not, why the not?
    Don't you believe in the 4th amendment?

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