THIS PEOPLE!! if tiagos put in the game at the 4th we win period. tiago and blair/manu/parker gave us a of a chance and we choked plain and simple. but i still think pop is having a hard time swallowing his pride hes lost alot of respect in here and is his own worst enemy.
i think tiago was meant to play in the playoffs and if timmy doesnt get hurt we would have had an early exit, with tiago i see us winning a championship. theres a reason pops slowly giving him starter minutes. if he closes games for us (hopefully the next game) i see us winning most of our games no joke.i know it sounds stupid but everyone will see how good this kid can be.i mean pop is so wrong to be putting all this pressure on tiagos shoulders after disrespecting him the whole season.
if bonners so ing good shouldnt he be able to carry this team??? no hes utter garbage. pop is so pathetic to put all this weight on tiagos shoulders right before the playoffs,(unbelievable) yet tiago still goes in and makes pop look even stupider for benching him. thats why i respect tiagos at ude.
pop treats euro players like slaves/disrespectful. ive heard argentinians say this and they are right !!he'll play neal (from same league as tiago) but wont play tiago??? theres more of a need for tiagos position, he said it wouldn't be fair to the other guys if he played tiago, yet he played neal and contradicted himself when you compare the reasons he gave to sit tiago. actually james anderson should be freaking playing! he provides great defense we really need, and we only have 12 players in and id rather have anderson playing .
DNP -novaks dumb ass he just had his confidence murdered 2night so i doubt (hope im wrong) hes ever going to show up again. hope pop sits his ass and that whole white un-athletic 3pt center/ cancerous dream that pop wants so bad. its getting pathetic. we need splitter off the bench with dice or /blair
Last edited by ++SaiNt TiAg0++; 03-26-2011 at 02:49 AM.
I'm thinking it'll be more compe ive than that, so probably more like 2008.
Sucks knowing that despite having the best record in the NBA, your team most likely won't even be in the finals.
other than the fact that we should've won this game, and it stings even more because of that, i take away mostly good things from this game. the Spurs held Portland to 96 points in Portland w/o their defensive anchor. i actually think that i felt better about the Spurs now than i have at any point in the season. why? because we've actually learned that Tiago Splitter is damn good.
i'm losing confidence in the coach, though. how our coach has not played a guy that is clearly very good for pretty much the whole year, and better than Bonner is almost every aspect of the game, and that it it weren;'t for a Duncan injury we wouldn't have seen him at all, has me really questioning his competence.
Last edited by mingus; 03-26-2011 at 05:45 AM.
Tiago is playing very well now and I'm very impressed but he certainly has not been better than Bonner this year.
He really hasn't had the opportunity. You do see what he brings and Pop for some reason never gave him his chance. There was no reason for it either.
Thats not true. Tiago played terribly earlier in the season and had a lack of legs for a good part of it. To say that he's not gotten a chance is not correct. He got a chances early and didn't impress.
Thankfully, he's gotten a chance again and he's come through like a champ. I look forward to seeing more of Tiago and hopefully Pop realizes that these playoffs are for Splitter.
He didn't get a fair chance, Manny. There is no arguing that. Pop even said it. He said he couldn't give him time and his excuse is bull .
I see what your saying, but Its hard for me to agree because of Duncan not being on the floor. We lost two winnable games on the road against playoff teams. Last night was a really bad loss, but the Spurs, without Duncan, were right there. I would have a totally different opinion if Duncan was playing last night.
^ This
Another troubling thing, and this is no surprise to anyone, is how this team has morphed into an "outside-in" offensive team, that relies heavily on 3-pt shooting as its primary offensive weapon. Many times sacrificing or failing to realize any mismatch in the post. Furthermore, they sometimes even forego the chance for possible fastbreak layups, only to fan out to the 3-pt line for spot up shots behind the arc.
Utilizing the 3-pt shot as a part of the team's overall offensive scheme is a good strategy. However, we all know it's a lower percentage shot and, on the road, sometimes those shots just don't go down. It's troubling because the Spurs, Manu especially, have become so dependent upon it, that it takes away their aggressiveness, while simulteanously leading to immediate fast-break opportunities for the opposition. Points in the paint translate into higher percentage shots, easier baskets, increased FT opportunities and open looks from the arc.
Look back on any of the NBA championship teams and you'll not find a single one that was strictly a jump-shooting team. It's not a recipe for a championship.
If it were that easy, the Warriors, Suns and Mavs would've won a le by now. I know the league rules have changed, but Pop has allowed this team to go way overboard with the "downtown" philosophy.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 03-26-2011 at 11:48 AM.
Your contradicting yourself here. "we outplayed two very good teams", but lost. Outplaying Denver and Portland is competing. They the Spurs failed at the end of those two games, but to say they wern't competing is not very accurate imo.
This is actually one of the more positive things you have said about this team, so I'll take it.
I see what you are saying, and my statements aren't about just these two games. I know I come off negative at times, but I am not. I just try to look at things objectively, but every loss hurts and every win makes me happy.
They have not made progress and they have actually declined in many important areas. This has been going on for months. Spurs were in both of these games, but the reason they are losing is because their best players either aren't playing well (RJ), look out of gas (most others) or a combo of both (Manu).
They can muster up really good moments, but they can't sustain enough. They will still win games and be in games because they are talented, but these last two games are just symptoms of problems that have been ongoing for a while now despite the great record.
Senor is right.
It will take a Herculean effort, luck, and no more injuries for SA to be successful in the playoffs.
The lack of size up front bothers me the most.
When your guy with size is out (Duncan), everything is harder to do.
The Spurs have exceeded my expectations by a mile this year, but when you have a shot to get it done (even if the shot is not a great one) you want to see them do it.
Every year since the 2007 championship, SA has had a major late season injury.
08 - Manu (injured ankle tendon/ligament. Playing on one leg in Lakers series. Required offseason surgery)
09 - Manu again (stress fracture). Missed playoffs entirely.
10- Parker (Planter Facia) and Manu (Broken nose from Mavericks series - that was a huge injury that totally messed up his game).
11 - Duncan (Ankle sprain).
Splitters recent improvement and the Spurs ability to compete on the road against hot WC teams is encouraging, but the full squad is going to be needed as we get into april. If SA can just put a couple of wins together this coming week, things should settle a little bit.
BTW, is there any further update on Duncan? His absense is obviously hurting SA's efficiency.
BS, 2 weeks before the playoffs, for this team, against those 2 teams, Spurs' glass should 2-0, at very least 1-1, but the glass is empty with 0-2.
Spurs's .800 overall record is looking very fool's gold-y right now, with a record of .400 against playoff teams since mid-Feb.
Dammit, when Tony's got that detached zombie face on, Pop otta just sit him. He hurts way more than he helps.
btw, those "two very tough teams" competed against a supposedly tough team and won both times.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 03-26-2011 at 02:35 PM.
This. My hope though, in the playoffs, is that the Spurs will amp it up a notch. I know the big 3 will, but RJ, Dyess, etc... need to follow suit.
i meant we didnt just compete, we actually outplayed both teams except for the last 2 minutes.
So to me thats not a very good sign of our ability to close games out. Especially when its Manu/TP/Pop choking at the end.
Agree. But I have faith that we won't see our top players repeating this kind of performance anytime soon.
Huh? How can the glass be half full when it's spilled all over the floor?
You can't spin anything good out of a loss like this. If it were Neal and Hill who committed those late turnovers, it would be forgivable...but you had a 3-time champion backcourt commit some of the dumbest, untimely turnovers ever witnessed. The icing on the cake was the 4-time champion coach drawing up that gem of an inbounds play
yeah spurs should have won both those games but mistakes and turnovers killed this team....right the spurs should be 59-13....by the way portland and denver barely beat spurs and without duncan...if duncan in the line-up spurs win big against these teams....just to tell you portland and denver aren't that good....just got lucky
Taigo did not play terribly earlier on in the season. Its definitely not so black and white. This post is complete and utter bull .
We'll see how the Spurs respond Mon night vs POR.
POR being 3L from missing the playoffs need the W much worse than the Spurs.
POR are losers on the road, 16-20.
I love how the Spurs "aren't contenders because they're a jump shooting team and they don't rebound". Yet the Celtics are contenders, despite the fact that they're a jump shooting team and an even worse rebounding team. Great logic.
Don't give me the "yeah, but, they defend better", because the Spurs are better offensively and still 8th best defensively. In other words, they're a more balanced team and balance is what wins championships. So if you're going to consider the Celtics a contender, then there's no excuse not to consider the Spurs one too.
Like Phil Jackson drawing a play for Kobe to chuck a 3 pointer almost from halfcourt against Miami with plenty of time left, or Odom not boxing out Dice?
like this happens. Better than they happen now than in the playoffs.
Sucks because we had the game pretty much in our pocket, but it's not the end of the world.
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