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    There won't be a revolution here until the people really suffer. The quality of life overall is too high to foster a revolution.

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    The tooth fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny are "real" to a five year old.

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    There won't be a revolution here until the people really suffer. The quality of life overall is too high to foster a revolution.

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    Even if the level of privation or misery were so great as to cause serious social unrest, I doubt the great unwashed would have any idea who to shoot at. We'd probably see racial pogroms way before any expressly political insurrection.

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    The quality of life overall is too high to foster a revolution.
    How long do you anticipate that being the case?

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    Even if the level of privation or misery were so great as to cause serious social unrest, I doubt the great unwashed would have any idea who to shoot at. We'd probably see racial pogroms way before any expressly political insurrection.
    What does an American circa 2011 regard as "privation or misery"? I have a feeling the description would leave us embarrassed as fellow countrymen.

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    I like how he compared us to Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Very appropriate, considering that the entire Arab world has a combined GDP about equal to Spain's.

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    Even if the level of privation or misery were so great as to cause serious social unrest, I doubt the great unwashed would have any idea who to shoot at. We'd probably see racial pogroms way before any expressly political insurrection.
    I don't know about that. I really don't. I mainly don't agree with that because I believe our main divisions today are definitely class related. Those lines tend to mimic racial divisions due to our nation's history but I just can't see middle class white people blaming Hispanics and African Americans for their troubles if the really hits the fan because its not like AA's or Hispanics are pulling the strings.

    Obviously there would be more racial violence but I don't think it would be the center of the events. I do think most Americans know who the real problem is but I also think they don't care enough to do anything about it because they live relatively comfortable.

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    How long do you anticipate that being the case?
    Until oil prices rise enough to really hurt our economy. Energy prices going up is what will ultimately bring Americans back in line with the rest of the world's standard of living because our standards are held up by an amazing level of energy consumption. We're able to do this because of cheap oil. Once energy isn't cheap anymore, I do think America is in for a of a surprise.

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    There won't be a revolution here until the people really suffer. The quality of life overall is too high to foster a revolution.
    And therein lies the greatest trick the Devil ever played. The Credit Revolution has doomed this generation, and the next. We're still able to amass quan y, but the quality has definately diminished. The textbook example calls for our handlers to raise the stove temprature little by little so we don't jump out of the pot too soon, and it has work perfectly. Not until the people have nothing to fight back with will they want to fight, and by then they'll just roll over and take it. Just saying.

    For the rest of the Liberal ants that like to swarm all over the "tax the super rich" bandwagon, just remember that your lazy, less than $200K households aren't funding political campaigns. You are insignificant, go join a union or something.

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    I thought Howard Dean had it right when his campaign talked about the change in politics once regular people funded a campaign but the more I've thought about it the more I don't even think thats true - especially with the rulings on McCain-Finegold. Yeah, individual voters funding a campaign through small donations sounds great in theory, but even if we were able to out donate large and rich en ies we would never be able to project the level of accountability that one single large donor can. Our power is too diluted. Further, with no checks on spending in campaigns the deep pockets now can exert even more pressure on the candidates.

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    Until oil prices rise enough to really hurt our economy. Energy prices going up is what will ultimately bring Americans back in line with the rest of the world's standard of living because our standards are held up by an amazing level of energy consumption. We're able to do this because of cheap oil. Once energy isn't cheap anymore, I do think America is in for a of a surprise.
    Which in turn will cause food prices to shoot up. Then you have big problems.

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    The possibility of a revolution is long gone. Unlike the 30s, the establishment did not expect a tightening of credit and liquidity, but the reverse. If this cluster was going to collapse, the opportunity was in a rapid and vastly more severe deflation brought on by the credit crisis.

    Further, calls for revolution from the lower 99% who themselves live in a society in which the main anxiety for the majority is whether or not they can afford a daily Starbucks run is a bit much. Or, get over yourselves and see how the rest of the world lives.
    x1 million. I wonder how many people have seen what living conditions in a third world country are like.

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    there won't be a revolution that the rich don't want to happen.

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    What does an American circa 2011 regard as "privation or misery"? I have a feeling the description would leave us embarrassed as fellow countrymen.
    Mr. y-Bollocks needs to pull his head out of his ass. Go yourself, you sniveling, privileged jackass.

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    Mr. y-Bollocks needs to pull his head out of his ass. Go yourself, you sniveling, privileged jackass.
    Thank you, Mr. Spurs Fan from Thailand. The surest sign you have lost an argument is when you result to insults rather than actually rebutting an opinion contrary to yours.

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    Insulting everyone who doesn't agree with him is his MO. Sadly, it's a very common MO.

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    Mr. y-Bollocks needs to pull his head out of his ass. Go yourself, you sniveling, privileged jackass.
    I love you too, as well as your massfluent revolution.

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    There will be no revolution until peoples' stomachs are empty. And in the land of America, 20 Taco Bell Tacos for $.02 on your local corners says no revolution anytime soon.

    Money and power rules the world. It has been like this for thousands of years. It is the nature of man. Quit thinking this will ever change.

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    From each according to their ability, and extra espresso shots for all.

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    Coffee.

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    Question:


    Do rich people make the poor more poor? Poorly worded, I know.


    I mean, take for example this Zuckerberg dude. He steals and idea, creates a ty social networking portal, screws his best friend out of stock options, and becomes a young billionaire. Did he make anyone MORE poor?

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    A revolution based on envious materialist concerns won't get far. Reactions against a militarist state will have precisely the impact that they have had so far this century.

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    Tax breaks for millionaires and corporations, shared sacrifice for the rest of us. Too bad Obama doesn't have the guts to fight the trend.

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    Question:


    Do rich people make the poor more poor? Poorly worded, I know.


    I mean, take for example this Zuckerberg dude. He steals and idea, creates a ty social networking portal, screws his best friend out of stock options, and becomes a young billionaire. Did he make anyone MORE poor?
    Yes they do.

    Ask Roubini about how much the financial sector cost the entire world. Its in the Trillions, and the biggest losers were the poor.

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