you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. Bonner is NOT a good defender. Slapping a lousy offensive player on him and watching his defensive efficiency improve is only masking the truth. The opposition's offense seems to gravitate toward the side of the floor Bonner's standing on. He's a complete liability when on the court.
Bonner gets lots of minutes with the starters, but also gets a lot garbage minutes with the scrubs. It inflates his plus minus. Don't look at team stats, look at what opponents do specifically to him when he's on the floor, and how well he has to shoot three pointers just to stay afloat.
OP spends time rebutting +/- stat used to defend Matt Bonner and some posters TL;DR and think he is defending Matt Bonner.
Good times.
Who thinks that?
What happens then, when Bonner plays heavy minutes in the fourth? Hint: the results in the last six games. I'm pretty sure we would have won 2-3 more games of the last six if Splitter got Bonner's minutes in the 4th. The Bonner/Blair combo certainly does not work against starters. A Duncan/Bonner combo might work simply because Tim Duncan is still Tim Duncan. But a Duncan + random big should also work.
I'll give Bonner this: He tries.
Other than that. He's not that good. The latter is especially true when he's completely clanking every open three FGA he gets.
& I detest the way that flat footed bas runs up the court.
GD him.
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Oh yeah what has he done good offensively later bro???? 0-5 last night and nothing much at all lately, nobody brings what he does on O? Since when lately?
^exactly whoever thinks matt bonner does this team good is a complete ing fool!!! matt bonner gets injure and breaks his hand after being red hot and shooting above 50% from three and was distracting us fans from his horrible d, because we were winning. however after he gets injured hes given the DNP and guess what happens????? we IN WIN REGARDLESS!!!!! in fact we bacame stronger defensively so now we see what happens when a real big goes down... duncan ..
quit the bull !!! fans are now paying attention to bonners every play and seeing most of our opponents taking it straight to the red rock and loving his defense. like the above poster said point guards/centers/power forwards they all love them some matt bonner defense. you put tiago in and IMMEDIATELY you see the penetration stop and jumpshooting start. PAY THE ATTENTION
Yeah but Chazley will put up a + stat for this piece of and say it's a fact he is good now! He is just so good! He will argue again, he must be POP I swear TO GOD, no other idiot will stick up for him like that dude does unless it were POOP or his wife.
Cause he plays with the best defenders of the Spurs more often than not. Just last week Splitter covered for his weak ass defense for three games when Pop paired them together and now who does Pop go with? Insanity is what it is on Pop's part IMO.
Bonner is simply is a piss poor one on one defender despite trying hard (extremely at times) he just does not have the length or quickness to stop the better players or the hot hand statistics be dammed. He cannot block shots and is a piss poor rebounder as well.
If he was truly valuable with his three point career average other teams would have bid him up in a FA period or sought him in trade - the fact is he is not anything better than a decent 10-12 man who can get hot but Pop sticks with his inane playing of Bonner more than the 5 -10 minutes a game maximum no matter what.
Splitter is already 5x the NBA player Bonnner is. Bonner is a nice person and at the end of the bench a decent commodity for any team but in his current over-inflated role he is (along with RJ, Pop's II pet) absoutely at this point destroying the Spurs le chances and he has already destroyed the first seed hopes when predictably he slumped when the games truly counted for something.
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- Cannot draw a charge to save his life: check
- Cannot block a shot on a consistent basis: check
- Cannot box out consistently: check
- Cannot rebound at a decent rate: check
- Cannot compete with physical big men: check
- Cannot compete with athletic big men: check
- Cannot compete with tall big men: check
- Cannot rotate and help quick enough: check
You don't need stats if you watch enough games. Bonner is constantly getting burned and chasing after the players he's supposed to be guarding. I've seen enough footage over the past several years to know that he is a -ass defender.
Bonner has games where he plays passable defense (the last game vs. the Mavs, for example), but he has a ceiling. He is severely limited physically. He is awkward and slow, can't jump, or move laterally and is a poor rebounder for a post player. All you can ask him to do is give an honest effort and live with the results.
Bonner differs from Jefferson in that, he doesn't produce because he just does not possess the skill to be a good defender. With Jefferson, it's a concentration issue. Jefferson has the physical tools to be a good defender and when his head is in the game, he is.
The main issue with Bonner is, when he is giving a solid effort defensively, it is, usually, at the expense of his offense. Which is really his only value. If Bonner isn't producing on offense, he serves no real purpose. Splitter is obviously the wiser choice defensively.
The responsibility, ultimately, falls on Pop to determine early in the game whether Bonner has his shot and to make the necessary adjustment before it becomes an unrecoverable problem.
This is a great post.
I'll have to admit, Bonner had a nice game today, if he keeps it up, the Spurs will be okay. Hopefully it is not a teaser effort.
Fools gold. It's not just a coincidence that he was able to produce against a bad team that was destined to lose even before the game began .
Maybe so, but still a nice all around game fro Matt.
I cannot recall ever seeing Matt Bonner block a shot. Might be a selective memory problem, but it's pathetic nonetheless.
Popovich is a pure head. Bonner gets 22 mother ing minutes per game, and he is among the worst shot blockers, rebounders, is extremely soft and unathletic, and has no defensive tools. It just never ceases to amaze me, even after thinking on the subject several times per week. Truly unbelievable. Matt Bonner is Coach Pop's Jesus Christ, his Holy Savior. All evidence can be against Bonner in terms of his playing ability, and yet he plays almost half of every game on average.
Wow Bonner sucked today, huh?
If I were on that Spurs team today where every player contributed towards the utter domination of the Nash-less, playoff-less Suns, I'd hitting wide open 3s too. Which isn't saying much. Let's wait and see how he does against LA.
A good game today. When was the last one? When will the next one be?
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