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    The new boston catcher is not working out.

    He's ing horrible.

    Already down 2-0 to the Yankees. 0-7 here we come.
    Pretty sad when Varitek is a better option offensively. Salty can't even call a decent game.

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    Maybe there are certain guys that just can't handle playing in the fishbowl that is Boston. Sort of like how there are guys (Kenny Rogers) who couldn't/can't handle the fishbowl that is New York.

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    Maybe there are certain guys that just can't handle playing in the fishbowl that is Boston. Sort of like how there are guys (Kenny Rogers) who couldn't/can't handle the fishbowl that is New York.
    Crawford certainly isn't helping his supporters today. 0/4 with 1 SO.

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    The Red Sox are now off the snide! Nice win for them...

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    Now lets see if this wakes them up.

    First win out of the way, that should devirginize these new Red Sox. lol

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    FINALLY! A win!

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    Finally a win, even if Lackey pitched like crap again.

    Always glad to beat the Evil Empire. And I'm glad Big Papi is hitting well. If he wants, he could stay in the Boston area after retirement and be a permanent fixture there, living comfortably off appearances/ads.

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    Sox need a better catcher. I refuse to believe that all of our pitchers just started sucking at once.

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    Back on the schnide.

    Cant believe this season is becoming more and more a throwaway season from the get go.

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    And so it continues.....

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    i hate ing boston fans
    Is it because we have four relevant teams instead of one?

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    pitchers sucks for sox

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    pitchers sucks for sox
    Don't think it's the pitchers, I think its the catcher. What are the odds of all our pitchers sucking suddenly?

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    What are the odds saltalamacchia makes it past 20 games this year?

    I know he was being groomed to be the next big star Catcher for the Red Sox but this guy is plainly just not working out. When will Boston just say, ok dude you tried it now lets move on..

    At this point, any other catcher WILL do a better job.

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    Don't think it's the pitchers, I think its the catcher. What are the odds of all our pitchers sucking suddenly?
    +1. No way all the pitchers suck ass all at once. Lester and Bucholz were lights out last year with Martinez and Tek catching for them. It's gotta be Salty, it just has to be....

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    Can't put it all on Saltalamacchia. Didn't Jon Lester pitch 7 scoreless in his second start with Salty behind the plate? Didn't the Red Sox bullpen pitch great against a very god Yankees line-up in their only win of the season with Salty behind the plate? Beckett and Lester haven't been horrible. They haven't been good either, but not horrible. Lackey and Dice-K were questionable going into the season. And so was the bullpen. Buccholz is disappointing but that happens sometimes with young pitchers. Not saying Saltalamacchia isn't to blame at all. But I wouldn't bet that he's the main problem, at least not yet.

    Seems like the Yankees may have found a nice player in Russell Martin. If he's healthy and committed, seems like he'd be a nice guy at the bottom of the order. I'll be curious if he can be consistent throughout the season and build on his very strong start. That would be huge for the Yankees.

    I'm wondering if a better option might become available for the Red Sox. Is Shoppach still with the Rays? Maybe guys like Olivo or Dioner Navarro might be available in a trade later on in the summer.

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    Lester had one good game, but overall the starters have been putrid. Do you think they all are just sucking?

    And considering that Salty is a wash offensively, I wouldn't say he's doing much for us. Of course , being a Red Sox fan, I'm prone to overreaction. Not to mention that Tek is a beloved player, long time Sox stalwart, and team captain.

    If you're going to replace Tek, you better bring something to the table in an obvious way.

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    Outside of 2007, Beckett has had a mediocre career with Boston (mediocre being a kind description)

    Lackey has always sucked against the AL East so him in Boston was a horrible idea from the start

    Buccholz seems like a candidate to struggle after his first full season now that people are picking his delivery up

    Dice-K just sucks

    Lastly, their bullpen isn't nearly what it was, nothing about it.

    Their pitching problems go way beyond Salty.

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    Outside of 2007, Beckett has had a mediocre career with Boston (mediocre being a kind description)

    Lackey has always sucked against the AL East so him in Boston was a horrible idea from the start

    Buccholz seems like a candidate to struggle after his first full season now that people are picking his delivery up

    Dice-K just sucks

    Lastly, their bullpen isn't nearly what it was, nothing about it.

    Their pitching problems go way beyond Salty.
    Oh-hohoho! Kyle Orton....banks it in!!!!

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    DoK, I'm not a huge fan of Lackey or Dice-K. And Buccholz has been anything but stable.

    That said, the pitchers aren't so horrible that they should be giving up 8 runs per game.
    Last edited by LnGrrrR; 04-09-2011 at 11:49 PM.

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    Don't think it's the pitchers, I think its the catcher.
    Should've resigned Victor. Not that I'm telling you something you don't already know.

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    Signing Lackey instead of Jason Bay because dumb Epstein preferred to sign Mike Cameron and his "veteran savvy" was the dumb move that led to them signing Crawford instead of V-Mart because losing Bay meant getting absolutely no production out of the outfield. Now their best outfielder is Juan Pierre with below average power rather than no power, their catcher is a prospect who hasn't proven jack , and Adrian Gonzalez is their one source of power hitting that isn't fat and over the hill.

    Every season recently Epstein has been OK with major question marks going into the season figuring they'll work themselves out. Last year he was hoping someone would just step up and replace Jason Bay's bat and Beckett would miraculously stay healthy and return to 2007 form. Never happened (understandably). This year he expected the same thing from Salty to just magically replace V-Mart and their bullpen scrubs to randomly become good.

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    In fairness to Theo, Jason Bay wasn't worth what he was asking for. Mets probably regret that contract. And the Red Sox did find someone to replace Bay last season, Beltre. Lol but they let him go to Texas because they traded for Adrian. This might be blasphemy if I were a Red Sox fan, but after getting Adrian, I would have kept Beltre and shopped Youkilis. But Theo would have never done that because they love that crazy viking looking basterd in Boston, especially since he's homegrown in the Boston farm system.

    But I do agree that it seems like the last couple of years, Theo has made moves to compensate for dumb moves or dumb lack of moves he's made. I still like them going out and trading for Adrian Gonzalez. And even though he's way overpaid, Crawford should still turn out to help the line-up. But with losing Beltre and Martinez, middle of the order bats, it might have served the Sox better to go after Werth instead of Crawford. Easier to say that now though. Probably should have tried to get another starter as well because Lackey proved to be at best an average starter, but based on what they expected, a pretty bad starting pitcher. And Dice-K has gotten worse and worse since his second season. They probably should have made runs at Greinke and Garza.

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    Jason Bay for what he was asking for >>>>> Crawford for what he's being paid >>>>>> Lackey for what he's being paid

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    IMO the best case scenario woulda been keep Beltre at 3B, keep Youk at 1B, make Gonzalez the DH, and quit hoping Big Papi will be good, but I really didn't want them overpaying Beltre.

    Youk at 3rd, Gonzalez at 1st, Ortiz at DH, Bay at LF, V-Mart at catcher w/ Crawford and Lackey getting overpaid somewhere else woulda been almost as good. I also still @ them not wanting to trade Jacoby ing Ellsbury for Hanley Ramirez given how bad their SS production is.

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