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The Terminator is one of my favorite movies, while T2 is just a good action flick. T3 and that other POS don't exist.
i like T2 better. the antagonist T1000 is bad ass and the build up b/w him and arnold is awseome. best chase movie i've ever seen.
The Terminator is one of my favorite movies, while T2 is just a good action flick. T3 and that other POS don't exist.
I love T2. One of my favorite movies. Agent Doggett playing the bad Terminator was spot on as well. Also T2 totally turned the mild mannered/scared Sarah Conner into the ultimate bad@ss we all know and love. But I haven't watched T1 in ages. I'm about to watch it now.
pretty much the main reason I don't care for 2
When my mom went to go play bunco with her cousins, my dad and I would always have guy movie night. We would go pick up a few segal, willis, schwartzenegger, etc movies, order pizza and have a good night. Well if you think this is awkward, try being 14 and your dad saying "Oh I saw this bruce willis movie at the video store, havent heard anything about it, its called the color of night". Then you say "I haven't heard of it either, pop it in."
Anyone who has seen that movie will immediately understand
Terminator is one of the few movies I wouldn't mind seeing re-edited George Lucas style and rereleased... So much about that movie is dated, and the picture quality could use some remastering.
Terminator seems fresher and more intense to me. T2 is a top notch action flick but T1 IMO is more of that pure sci-fi that kind of energizes the imagination and creates a bit of fear and anxiety and thrill just from the situation.
T2 made a huge impression on me as a kid. It was definitely one of my favorite movies growing up. My memory of the first one is hazy. I think I'll have to go back and re-watch it before saying one way or the other, but obviously nostalgia is going to heavily favor T2.
After rewatching T2 I liked it alot less, mainly because of the ton of really godawful comic relief bits. It had almost as many eye-rolling "jesus christ that was ing corny" moments as True Lies.
I can't facepalm hard enough for this. As I watched it again on Saturday, I literally said that I was so glad Cameron wasn't like George Lucas in that regard. Terminator is great and the grittyness of the film ADDS to it. Fancier explosions or some CGI would not make it look better. If you need more proof, look at some of the horrible CGI in T3 and Salvation.
ANyone remember the T2 Arcade game? I spent every penny i made one summer playing that money stealing game. It was so badass though.
if the main storyline was intact and the only thing that changed was picture quality and the effects, why in the would it be bad?
Oh don't think for one second that James Cameron doesn't have the Lucasesque flair for cheese. He just has the ability to get some form of emotion out of his actors, that's the big difference.
Terminator . . . hands down.
Can't believe that this hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread but today, April 19th, 2011, at 8:11 PM Skynet becomes self-aware.
Just thought you would like to know...
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That performance by Hamilton is pretty ing awesome tbh
Maybe it's just the music. The music is ing terrible. Except for the main theme of course.
T2. It raised the bar for blockbusters and imo was a much more entertaining movie both story-wise and action. Unfortunately I've seen it way too many times already. Watching that battle in the beginning, the nuclear explosion in the playground, the dismal/pre-apocalyptic tone throughout, SWAT team getting pulverized, Ahnold with classic Ahnold lines, 18 wheeler versus motorcycles in a ditch, liquid metal terminator, elevator scene, Ahnold's "death"...holy ing it was awesome.
Yea the first Terminator looks pretty dated but part of its legacy has always been being an inexpensive hit. However I agree it could use some in-depth remastering. Classic scifi movies like 2001 and Blade Runner look like they have a much higher picture quality than T1 for what its worth.
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Have you seen the new Star Wars and how the new effects cheapened them? Part of what makes Terminator so good is that its dark and gritty and that it didn't have a huge budget. You don't get the same storyline and development by changing that. The setting is just as much a part of the story as the dialogue.
Trust me, I don't really enjoy the soundtrack (the damn chase music sounds like some dude in a white jacket with a mullet and a tie playing a Casio keytar) and the effects look dated but thats fine. No need to with a classic.
The music in T2 is marginally better but see my comment above on the chase music. It really is bad, but it is from the 80s.
That just involves getting a better transfer. Now that we're able to handle larger volumes of data in cable and bluray that shouldn't be an issue. Most of the older movies are shot in very high resolutions (how else would they ever be able to show them on huge screens at the theaters) but getting them to your home has been the problem until recently.
Can't go wrong with T2 and it was really the the last moment of ascent for Axl Rose's popularity, but the original was by far the better of the two. It didn't rely on the overt usage of graphics and explosions as T2 did, but the fear factor of the story and the cyber chilling relentlessness of Ahnold was better. I mean, just the sheer terror I had as a youngin when I first saw Terminator...shiver.
I see a lot of you all dumping on T3 and I have to say that the movie wasn't half bad. But before you all go up in arms over that, let me explain.
T1 and T2 were actual movies with plot, story lines and what not. T3 just finished up the story line on our end (before Skynet took over) but that's about it for plot.
When I went out and saw T3, I knew what I was getting in to, a watered down story that relied on crazy actions scenes, a ridiculous chase scene that destroys many city blocks and lots of guns and explosions. And you know what, it delivered.
I knew T3 wasn't going to exceed the first two nor did I expect it. What I did expect from it, it delivered.
So in that sense, it wasn't half bad. When your expectations are realistic (read low on plot but high on action), then you won't be disappointed.
Having said all that, T2 has a special place in my heart as well. I'd have to go back and see T1 again as it's been ages.
To clarify on my statements further, let me use another example, The Expendables. A friend of mine asked me if the movie was good, to which I responded, "No, the movie was bad". He then said, "So it sucks?" My response, " no it was ing great."
If you've seen the movie, you know what I mean.
there is such a thing as movies relying too much on graphics and explosions and it doesn't get any deeper than that. but T2 makes use of graphics and explosions in a way that connects to the story and characters. T100 wasn't a character that could be shown w/o the use of (at that time) never-before-seen effects. he relied on those effects, but that isn't a bad thing. some just can't be shown without certain technological advances. doesn't meen those advances hurt the product.
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