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pop has braindwashed the team last year and this year if manu can not play they can not win
pop is one stupid mother er
also going to manu only in the crunch all season is ing stupid also
Somehow I don't see that happening.
Has anyone been paying attention to the comments coming from Spurs players. Over the past few days, Blair, Dice and Parker have all lamented the fact that "the team cannot succeed if Manu doesn't play".
If their morale is such that they feel depleted without him, I don't give them any shot of overtaking Memphis because they truly don't believe they can.
pop has braindwashed the team last year and this year if manu can not play they can not win
pop is one stupid mother er
also going to manu only in the crunch all season is ing stupid also
In injury related news, Kobe comments on his latest injury...
"I had a broken nail removed yesterday, it hurts a lot. I'm in a lot of pain. But I can handle it. Just like the broken finger, bad knee, and sore back after hitting that chair. Did you guys see that? I just got up and walked away from pain. That's just who I am. I make love to pain. Make sure to print all that. I'll give you guys another injury update after Game 2."
dont worry this means more playing time for bonner
Manu will have 35 points/ 5 rebounds / 8 ass / and 3 steals. take that Memphis CARE BEARS!
I was at game 1. I was about 6 rows next to the spurs bench. I had a perfect view of manu throughout the whole game. His passion for the game was intense. Down the line .... I was watching him more than the game. You could tell he was dying to be out there. I have the same seat for game 2. Hopefully I see him on the floor this time. = )
I'd say let Manu sit out the next game, or at least get really limited minutes.... I think Spurs will be alright without him as long as there are no more injuries.
*knock on wood*
We need Manu yes, Spurs also need Splitter
Why isn't Gneal starting for Manu in the first place. And Manu should be coming off the bench. The starting back court should be TP and Neal, bench back court should be Manu and Hill. Starting front court should be TD and Dice, bench should be Splitter and Blair, and Bonner should never get in another game unless it's garbage time, being that it's the playoffs and there will be no more garbage time, if he does get in again, that would be fine too.
I just don't think the Grizzlies can beat us again in San Antonio with or without Manu. If we can't go 1-1 vs the grizzlies in our home (even w/o Manu) I don't see us making it out of the 2nd rd.
IMHO the first loss is on Tony Parker, he is the key to winning game2 Duncan can't carry this team. He is been playing like crap for awhile now and he needs to step it up.
The Grizzlies beat us once at home, they sure can do it again if things go well for them. If we can't go 1-1 vs the Grizzlies, I think the Spurs don't deserve to get out of the first round. Even if they pull the series out after going down 0-2, the team awaiting in the second round is a tad bit better. If they go down 0-2, the Spurs are first round fodder this year.
First loss was on Parker. The team depended more on Parker's production to suffice for Manu's absence, and he failed, miserably. The bad part about that is that Mike Conley outplayed.
I think the Spurs will win game 2, and if so will win the series in 6. However, the game 1 loss is very alarming.
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Your implying that a manu absence = Spurs loss?
Now I've seen everything.
I think the players are sick and tired of Pop not playing certain players, namely Tiago. We know Manu has alluded to it a time or two this year, and so has Parker. This is very un-Spur behavior, but they know our chances are better if Tiago plays.
However, Manu freaking has to play, so I think the players are doing everything they can (even through the media) to convey that they feel Manu has to play. They know all too well that Pop's stubbornness has cost them games in the past.
I mean, Pop didn't play George Hill in the 2009 playoffs, and he clearly would have helped us.
There's no way in that Manu ain't playing anymore these playoffs.
Sure the Spurs could have won game 1 but we lost.And we can't play another game that we can win or not.We have to win.
Without Manu we aren't a lot better than Memphis so it's all in the hope to be luckier than Memphis. That's not the way if we want to win these series.
In injury related news, Kobe comments on his latest injury...
"I had a broken nail removed yesterday, it hurts a lot. I'm in a lot of pain. But I can handle it. Just like the broken finger, bad knee, and sore back after hitting that chair. Did you guys see that? I just got up and walked away from pain. That's just who I am. I make love to pain. Make sure to print all that. I'll give you guys another injury update after Game 2."
We need Manu or we are not going to win. There's nothing else to say.
True about the Spurs treatment of the media. They have done this multiple times in the history of the organization and they are very capable of doing it again.
As of winning without Manu... winning without {Duncan, TP, Manu} would probably do more for their chances than winning with a hobbled {Duncan, TP, Manu}. The bench and other players need to step up, the team would get confidence, and blah blah...
This is all nice and good, but reality check: the Spurs are 1-5 in the playoffs without Manu. So if I am hedging my bets, I would go all in if Manu plays and bet on Memphis if he doesn't.
This is the playoffs and it is time to ride your horses. It is now or never.
That must have been difficult for you.
To me this is a no-brainer and I respectfully disagree with some posters. Manu should play tomorrow.
You spend the entire year readying your team for a playoff run. You micromanage their minutes, injuries, etc. I have the feeling Manu could have played on Sunday but I really thought they could beat the Grizzlies without him. I still think they can without Manu since the Spurs couldn't get anything done or going their favor in Game 1, however, at this point you need to stop micromanaging the team and go full balls the rest of the post season - this is the time to shine or whatever you think you were doing during the year isn't worth .
Manu's impact in the team is many fold. It isn't just about scoring but the team is used to play with him and he can handle the ball (sorely missed in Game 1 except TP's 3rd quarter) and assist his teammates. He can also open the floor for 3pt shooting and ball rotation (ball rotation was awful in Game 1). Ball rotation,, 3pt shooting and guard penetration are 3 keys for Spurs play and that's where most of the damage is done. Against a team as big as the Grizzlies (compared to how the Spurs are in that department) you need to have your guards killing them or you'll go fishing pretty soon. Both their bigs were getting anything they wanted the entire game. Look at their stats, I think it was like 76% FG%
So to me this isn't the time anymore to look after small injuries. happens and if you want to win championships you need to get over it. All teams go through stuff like this.
He must play.
Everyone points to the fact it is his off-elbow but that is the one he uses to absorb contact. Of course he can shoot with the injury but can he drive rebound and defend with it? Luckily the Grizz bigs though tough are NOT dirty ...but I can see Battier and Tony Allen testing the elbow.
This is definitely a concern - I think the question is can the injury get worse or more damage be caused if he takes hits or falls on that elbow OR is it just a pain issue?
If it is just a pain issue then we know Manu simply gets a shot and goes out and plays, if it is possible for injury to increase in severity with impact then that makes Spurs FO/POP's decision more difficult
Yeah, I agree to a point but there is an argument to be made that you're not playing to get out of the first round. If Manu plays and doesn't heal do they get out of the 2nd round? The Spurs, IMO, need to get to the WCF to make this a successful season. What gives you the best chance of that? Sitting Manu against a Grizz team the Spurs SHOULD be beating without him or not fully healed Manu in the 2nd round?
I'd play Manu, but I don't think its cut and dry. I think either choice is correct.
I tend to agree. People say "you run your horses in the playoffs" but this isn't a horse race, it's a series of horse races over a long period of time, each getting progressively harder. If you risk Manu getting hit and having his arm swell up by playing him tomorrow, but that risk goes down tremendously with three or four extra days to rest, it's a pretty easy decision. The Spurs are playing pretty stupid right now and could easily handle the Grizzlies without Manu if they'd just settle down and do basic things.
Man only concern would be how effective he would be if he is able to play.. If he is worried about taking it to the basket, or the opposite he just settles for outside 3-point shots..
I would use the judgment to play or not to play.. If Manu is 85% or better play him if not dont..
Or you could use the mind trick and let everyone know he is suiting up "to give your team an extra boost moral" and then the opposing team might think differently and then never really play him..
Its just a bluff... But under 85%, i dont now how effective he would be..
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