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  1. #26
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    GTFO with your facts Lkrfan.
    Facts accompanied with a bunch of is trolling bull and that is why I told Lkrfan to GTFO

    So Duncan is supposed to be better (career) than Kobe, but right now he is not as good as Bynum?

    If that is the case I find it comical that fans act like these past 3 seasons don't count. Maybe at one time 5 years ago you could argue Tim was a greater player than Kobe (i would agree as well) but anyone still drinking that kool-aid is just being silly.

    Before 2008 I gave Duncan the clear edge ...

    After 2008-2009 I figured since they were tied in rings it was pretty damn close.

    But now? Kobe has had the greater career, is right now clearly the better player, and when the history books are written this will not even be a heated debate. Right now Kobe only has a relatively slight edge but each of the past two season and pending the outcome of this one ... it grows larger.
    Duncan will alway be the better player in my eyes. For many reasons that have been mentioned over and over on this forum. If you want me to go into this more just ask.

    Remember how much this guy was talking in the Lakers vs Hornets thread? Now he's at the end of the ledge.
    This has nothing to do with the Lakers vs Hornets thread. I am not on any ledge but my team is in little trouble.

    I never had TD greater than Kobe. Kobe has 5 rings to Tim's 4. Not only that, Kobe has beaten Tim 4 times in the playoffs to Tim's 1 IIRC.

    I consider the Mailman the GOAT at PF, tbh. Karl Malone beasts Timmy D in two major stats: points and rebounds career wise

    Points
    Malone - 36,928 (#2 all time)
    Duncan - 21,663 (#33 all time)

    Rebounds
    Malone - 14,968 (#7 all time)
    Duncan - 12,013 (#22 all time)

    Despite ^^ facts, most call Timmy D the GOAT of PFs. Why is that? Greatness is measured in ring totals.

    So by that theory, Kobe is > Timmy D.

    Kobe: 5
    TD: 4

    2/5ths of Malone's team was top 50 all-time and he still couldn't win a ring.

    Lets just forget about the fact that he was the 2nd best player for three rings and for another ring he shot 6-24 in the deciding game. After we forget all that and much more then we can say Kobe is > Timmy D.

  2. #27
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    If Bynum and Duncan put up the same stats, but LA lost and Spurs won, I guarantee you this thread does not exist.

  3. #28
    Pain Strength Happiness ManuBalboa's Avatar
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    Duncan is DONE. D.O.N.E. He can't even post up now. The Greatest Power Forward of All Time can't even post up now.

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    Bynum & Pau wouldn't be much of a challenge to Marc & Z-bo either. Bynum has the advantage over Marc, but it's not that bad. But Randolph would dominate over Gasol and do whatever he likes in the paint. The difference would be the back-court, & of course Kobe could man-handle any guard on the Grizz.

    By the way, Bynum could never achieve what Duncan has, & when Duncan came into the league, he was a difference maker right away, a star player. Bynum is far from that status, and will never reach it.

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    All trolling aside... the way Bynum is playing its a pretty good comparison. If i was too pick one guy right now it would still be Duncan.. but thats probly because im bias.

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    Believe. Amaso's Avatar
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    Bynum is clearly a better player than Duncan at this point in their careers, it's comical to even deny it. I hear people saying Duncan is still a better defender but that's just flat out wrong too. Duncan has declined extremely fast and hard, he should seriously consider retiring after this year assuming the Spurs don't win it all.

  7. #32
    $200 cash 4>0rings's Avatar
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    Is this a ing joke? Gasol and Duncan would on Stern and the NBA. Nothing could stop them, not even Pop.

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    Bynum & Pau wouldn't be much of a challenge to Marc & Z-bo either. Bynum has the advantage over Marc, but it's not that bad. But Randolph would dominate over Gasol and do whatever he likes in the paint. The difference would be the back-court, & of course Kobe could man-handle any guard on the Grizz.
    Game 1 of 4. Lakers/Grizzlies. In this game, there was no Bynum because he sat 24 games to start the year. Let's see what Marc Gasol did against 2x Champion Pau Gasol:

    M Gasol
    3-5 FGAs (8 pts)
    8 rebs
    5 asts
    0 blocks

    P Gasol
    9/16 FGAs (21 pts)
    13 rebs
    5 asts
    0 blocks

    Again, this was without Bynum I might add. Pau even posterized him in that game. So don't think Marc Gasol will dominate his brother. Most likely he will be on Bynum. But even still, Marc can't hang with his big brother. Try again kid.

    By the way, Bynum could never achieve what Duncan has, & when Duncan came into the league, he was a difference maker right away, a star player. Bynum is far from that status, and will never reach it.
    Not so fast. In his 6th year, Bynum will be playing for his 3rd rang. If he wasn't hurt in 2008, he would be playing to match TD's rang total. The difference? TD is in his 15th year.


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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    Not so fast. In his 6th year, Bynum will be playing for his 3rd rang. If he wasn't hurt in 2008, he would be playing to match TD's rang total. The difference? TD is in his 15th year.



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