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    pop did that during regular season
    splitter got owned
    They played a lot of times one against the other in Spain.Gasol got owned too.

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    Not like they don't know each other. They played against each other in Europe, right?
    And the duel was tied

    Even I have to say Splitter wasn't playing at the same level of the last 2 years in Europe.He was young and far away to be as dominant.

    Now Splitter seems to be garbage but he was the MVP of the best european league outside Euroleague.Same Marc Gasol or Scola was.It's ing crazy.

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    I guarantee Phil Jackson would be playing Bonner over Tiago.

    Stop blaming for Timmy/Manu/Parker's failure.

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    I'm thinking the Splitter Duncan defensive matchups should be Splitter on Randolph and Duncan on Gasol-- simply because of the relative footspeed.

    Splitter could matchup better on Randolph in that regard I think.

    But we'll probably never know until all the other bigs are used up against Randolph and the series is all but over. Pop is too certain about his lineup preferences to play Splitter.

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    I'm thinking the Splitter Duncan defensive matchups should be Splitter on Randolph and Duncan on Gasol-- simply because of the relative footspeed.

    Splitter could matchup better on Randolph in that regard I think.

    But we'll probably never know until all the other bigs are used up against Randolph and the series is all but over. Pop is too certain about his lineup preferences to play Splitter.
    Randolph isn't doing much facing up, so I don't think foot speed is that relevant here. He's using brute strength. Duncan plays the best defense on Randolph on the low block because of his length and strength combination. The only problem I have, is that I really want to avoid Timmy getting into early foul trouble. I'd like if they gave an early mix of Dice/Splitter on Zach, and let Blair/Bonner matchup with Arthur.

    Blair has done a solid job of denying the entry pass to Zach, but once he gets the ball Blair has zero shot at stopping him unless he settles for a jumper.

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    I guarantee Phil Jackson would be playing Bonner over Tiago.

    Stop blaming for Timmy/Manu/Parker's failure.
    Not only would Jackson be playing Splitter, he'd be starting him next to Duncan and playing them together 25 minutes a game.

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    Not only would Jackson be playing Splitter, he'd be starting him next to Duncan and playing them together 25 minutes a game.
    Whatever helps you sleep.

    You're talking about a man that started Brian Cook, willingly. And Luke Walton. At the same time. Bonner would be a Phil wet dream.

    Coaching isn't a problem. It's your washed up, heartless core. Blow it up.

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    I think Splitter and Gasol had four major face-to-face games back in Spain.

    Season 2006/07, Splitter was playing for Tau Vitoria, a team that led the regular season (ended up losing in semifinals against Barcelona), teaming up in the paint with Luis Scola, that season's MVP. Gasol was playing his first season for Akasvayu Girona (weak playoff team) on loan from Barcelona. It was his blossoming campaign after being in Ivanovic's doghouse back in Barcelona.

    First game, in Vitoria: http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB51080.php
    - Splitter: 13 points (5/5 FG), 7 rebounds, 24 minutes.
    - Gasol: 10 points (5/9 FG), 5 rebounds, 24 minutes.

    Second game, in Girona: http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB51229.php
    - Splitter: 20 points (6/16 FG), 10 rebounds, 36 minutes.
    - Gasol: 16 points (5/6 FG), 13 rebounds, 2 blocks, 29 minutes.

    Season 2007/08, Scola leaves Tau, and Splitter remains as the team anchor in the paint as they win the ACB League. Gasol becomes the league's MVP and his team enters again in the playoffs for another early exit (of course Tau teams were much stronger than Akasvayu's).

    First game, in Girona: http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB52004.php
    - Splitter: 14 points (6/11 FG), 9 rebounds, 30 minutes.
    - Gasol: 10 points (3/11 FG), 4 rebounds, 28 minutes.

    Second game, in Vitoria: http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB52187.php
    - Splitter: 13 points (4/8 FG), 4 rebounds, 24 minutes.
    - Gasol: 19 points (9/13 FG), 4 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 blocks, 37 minutes.

    For me it is obvious that Splitter should at least get a try on these series when Duncan is on the bench, particularly in the place of Blair, who looks extremely overwhelmed by the Grizzlies size.

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    Whatever helps you sleep.

    You're talking about a man that started Brian Cook, willingly. And Luke Walton. At the same time. Bonner would be a Phil wet dream.

    Coaching isn't a problem. It's your washed up, heartless core. Blow it up.
    How many times did that happen? Five? Over two years? For a team that won 42 and 45 games and had no discipline? Who was better? Laron Profit? Devean George? Yeah, that compares to leaving a completely healthy seven footer on the bench while the Spurs get gutted by the opposing front line. Makes perfect sense now.

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    I guarantee Phil Jackson would be playing Bonner over Tiago.

    Stop blaming for Timmy/Manu/Parker's failure.
    lol this is a joke, right? Phil is old school. he doesn't even have plays set up for 3s. He would never ever play a a bigman who plays like SG over a defensive center that plays like a defensive center.

    Never.

    Lamar is 500x better than bonner and he can play D, rebounds very well, he's also lakers most skilled big, with the best handles, etc, etc, etc but when Bynum is Healthy he's the one starting over Odom.

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    Whatever helps you sleep.

    You're talking about a man that started Brian Cook, willingly. And Luke Walton. At the same time. Bonner would be a Phil wet dream.

    Coaching isn't a problem. It's your washed up, heartless core. Blow it up.
    wtf is your point? Cook played during lakers' darkest age after shaq left. Luke is nothing alike Bonner.

    Walton was lakers Point Forward when he was playing heavy minutes. He was never a good shooter. He was on the court because he played good D, hustled, kept the triangle running, was a great playmaker and had a very high Bball IQ.

    Bonner is on the floor because he shots the 3 very well, that's it. Nothing else.

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    Phil doesn't play rookies idiots. Guarantee you Bonner would be ahead of Splitter if phil was the coach.

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    Pop called Zach Randolph's positioning ability on rebounds "Rodman-like."

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    By the way folks, Duncan played way more against Randolph in game three, look up and suddenly Zach had 25. Not like he scored all of those points against Duncan (he didn't), but I don't think Duncan shut him down.

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    He bullied Tim on quite a few occasions.

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    Phil doesn't play rookies idiots. Guarantee you Bonner would be ahead of Splitter if phil was the coach.
    Number of playoff appearances for Jordan Farmar as a rookie: 5 in five games.

    Number of playoff appearances for Ronny Turiaf as a rookie: 3 in seven games, averaged 19 minutes per appearance.

    Number of playoff appearances for ANDREW BYNUM his rookie year, when he was like fourteen years old: 1 in seven games.

    Wait, it gets better...

    Number of playoff appearances for Brian Cook and Luke Walton their rookie year: 13 and 17 of 22 playoff games, respectively.

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    Dice was playing well, but he was in foul trouble all the game. Hopefully his injury at the end of the game isn't serious.

    Duncan and Dice dominated the boards in game 3. Bonner was awful in game 3, but he did a decent job in the first two games.

    Splitter would do better, however it seems Pop never trained with Duncan at PF and Splitter at C.

    I'm not sure why he isn't playing.

    My guess Pop is still mad at him, because he went to play internationally, instead of training with the Spurs where he got injured to miss the pre-season.

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    My guess Pop is still mad at him, because he went to play internationally, instead of training with the Spurs where he got injured to miss the pre-season.
    Well, a humiliating first round playoff exit should teach him. I'm sure Nazr isn't shooting threes at the end of the shot clock anymore.

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