If you were the GM what would you do for next year ?

[wildbill2u]

with this roster and of course with common sense.

Buy a copy of "The Rules and Art of the Ancient Rite of Suppuku" in English.

[baseline bum]

Like I said in the other thread...

I just don't think there is another year in the team. They came out pissed this year and played balls out after the disappointment of 2010, but, as March and beyond have shown, the Spurs are now in a no-man's land of being a first round team with a second round ceiling whose core is declining fast. The only reason not to completely blow the team up is because Tim doesn't deserve to be stuck in a rebuilding effort. I think it needs to be done though.

Tony and Tiago have good value going forward, but of course make them available if someone offers a really nice package. Hill and Blair are talented players who I think can be counted on to be decent role players going ahead.

Go in the lotto this next year and maybe pick up a talented young forward like Anthony Davis, Harrison Barnes, Michael Gilchrist, James McAdoo, Jared Sullinger, or Perry Jones or maybe a promising guard like Austin Rivers. The 2013 draft has some promising bigman prospects with Andre Drummond, Dajuan Coleman, and Isaiah Austin, but of course that's a long way off and who knows how many of these guys live up to the hype. I'd like the team to be drafting high in each of the two drafts after this season's.

I just don't want to pass up having a good 2012 pick when there isn't a lot to gain by bringing the team back next season. The Spurs could really get a nice player in what looks like it could be another 2008-level draft (the one with Rose, Beasley, Mayo, Westbrook, Love, Gallinari, Gordon, Lopez, Hibbert, McGee, Ibaka, Batum, Hill, Jordan, and Dragic). I think Manu still has enough left in the tank to get a nice young player in exchange for him.

If there's one thing you can give credit to Stern for, it's that a small market can build a le contender with smart moves. The Spurs proved it over the past 15 years and now the Thunder are doing the same. While Tim Duncans and Kevin Durants don't come around that often in the draft, this front office has shown the ability to get tremendous value with picks like Parker, Ginobili, Hill, Blair, and Giricek. The Spurs won't be a le contender without landing the next Duncan (or Durant), but they can be a good playoff team with some upside again in a few years if their trend with the draft can hold up.

I don't want to see the front office just kick the can down the road; it's getting near time to build a new Spurs team from the ashes of this incredible one that has given us fans so much. I do hope to keep Pop, as has consistently developed young players who no one gave much of a chance to do much: think Malik Rose, Tony Parker, Stephen Jackson, and George Hill.

[rascal]

At least, I would do my best in getting rid of RJ and Bonner.

No offence! But why should I keep the players who would disappear in the post season?

Shaking the Big 3 at this stage is too risky.

I am not a Splitter person, but I would do whatever it takes to get him a starting job.

Its time to take risks. It was time 3 years ago. The big three as the best players on the team can't do it anymore.

Splitter is not a starting worthy NBA player.

[objective]

if I were the GM, or giving my layperson advice to the GM, I would go for the "keep it fun and watchable" tactic.

Meaning, this era is over. The le window has closed.

But, that doesn't mean there still can't be enjoyable basketball.

They just have to get rid of players who drain the enjoyment of Spurs basketball. Mainly Jefferson and Bonner. Package Hill and Blair and anything else possible, but they have to be gotten rid of.

Let McDyess go into retirement or eat his buyout.

Bring in youth and play them. Even if they're not any good, they should be enjoyable. Be it Ryan Richards and his bum shoulders, or Nando De Colo and his ridiculous turnovers, or Viktor Sanikidze with his old man looks and fierce passion for the game. I'd rather spend the next 3 seasons watching those guys struggle and try too figure it out alongside Tiago and Parker and Ginobili or whoever than watch 3 more years of Jefferson and Bonner and their ilk.

And that's enough. Maybe a scorched earth rebuilding like unloading Parker or Ginobili might be quicker to another run as contenders, but I feel as a Spurs fan that I still want to enjoy being able to watch Ginobili and Parker and Duncan play, just without the baggage of apathy or flummoxed inadequacy of RJ and Bonner or the age of McDyess.

Give other teams permission to talk to Pop. It's not about firing or getting rid of Pop, it's about giving him the opportunity to take jobs he might enjoy more. Lakers, Knicks, Magic, all those teams among others could have vacancies and are willing to pay the big bucks. Pop isn't necessary for a long re-build, neither is Budenholzer. I don't have any alternative that I'd like to see coach, only the feeling that Pop shouldn't have to be obligated to finish coaching this floundering team.

[Agloco]

with this roster and of course with common sense.

I'd kick back and continue enjoying my 7 figure salary. I'd tell the entire roster to do the same.

[Sisk]

This makes sense

[Master splitter]

Trade splitter, Blair, Neal, and mcdyse for Kevin love and rights to Ricky Rubio. And hopefully Duncan retires or takes less money to sign free agent Dwight Howard. Trade RJ,bonner, and first round draft pick for Thadeus young. Sign Andre kirelinko or tayshawn prince (back up sf.) at MLE.
C.-Howard/Richards
Pf.-Kevin love/duncan
sf.-Thadeus young/Ak/deshawn butler
Sg.-George hill/Manu/James Anderson
Pg.-Parker/Rubio
And a new coach. Take a hike pop
Sg.-hill/Manu/James A

[wildbill2u]

Spurs need to get rid of all the deadweight they have ac ulated over the last few years, but unfortunately thats more then half this team. However honestly at this moment of time I just don't know.

Here's what we have:

Duncan--probably will retire after this fiasco, but if not will not be able to anchor the team. If he stays, he'll have to give up even more minutes and that won't be a problem for a classy guy, but might push a proud superstar into retirement.

Manu--wonderful player, often injured, best possible trade material we have--but I'd hate to lose him for a nothing player half as good. Still good and great at times. The will to win of a great superstar. Let's keep him.

Parker--Tradeable for a decent player--but most teams don't try to trade you even up with a quality player in exchange--and what do you have left without him? Hill?

RJ: Based on the two years here, he is untradeable at his salary level and length of contract. We rolled the dice and lost.

McDyess: An old stallion that still wants to answer the bugles call. Could play a little bench time if he decides to stay on aftet this. Good locker room guy.

Bonner: Simply can't hang with the big boys on defense. OK if he can outshoot the opposition, but Memphis out-coached Pop on this and rendered him ineffective at the 3. As a Hero, he is just a sandwich. Too bad Isaiah Thomas isn't a GM somewhere because he probably is untradeable. A guy like Steve Novak is cheaper and might be a better risk.
I doubt we can get rid of him. ARRRRGH!

Hill: Will never have the killer instinct of a Ginobelli or the resourcefulness of an Indiana Jones. The thought of Hill taking over the Parker minutes permanently should send a chill through everyone. Might be one of the few possibilities we have as trade bait, but we'd probably get someone who sucks.

Neal: Proved he can play a role in this league. Lots of teams will want him, but we should keep him and develop his D. Tough kid with a shooters eye.

Blair: Tough call to say trade this hard-working nice kid--but his liabilities as either a 5 (way too short) or a 4 (too slow or unathletic and no reliable 15 foot shot) against quality opponents have been exposed. When Pop gave Splitter some Blair minutes, he might as well have announced the end of the experiment. Unfortunately, these lack of physical skills and physique limit his value as trade bait. Might get a second round pick with no ACLs for him.

Splitter: Pop delayed his development while rooting for Blair to work out. Too bad he lost this season, but he is the only potential center on our horizon. Not to get into the argument about whether he's gonna be good, bad, or indifferent, let me repeat: HE IS THE ONLY POTENTIAL CENTER ON OUR HORIZON. We'll have to see what he has next year since Pop went with Blair this year. He stays.

What's his name? our rookie draftee? Roberts?, Johnson? Anderson? yeah that's right. And shows what we no about him. No experinence gained this wasted year. As a very low draft pick, he'd be up against other low draft pickes from this year's class if we tried to trade him--and what GM wants a guy that wasn't good enough to play. The GMs can draft their own gambles at those draft slots.

Da Sean Butler; God if he were only to turn our to be half as good as our old Sean. Who knows what he's got left after the injury. FO can flip a coin as to whether to keep him and no one will care which side comes up.

Green, Quin, Novak: Spear carriers in the Opera get more face time than these guys. They really don't matter in rebuilding the team in the long run.

So if you add it all up, we have damn little to trade if we are to remain respectable by keeping the now Middle-level 3 and a problem going forward with them still in key roles.

We ought to ask them if they would like to be traded, even if we have to give them away for players of lesser quality. We owe them for some championship years.

Maybe we should blow it up (Give the Big 3 their unconditional release so they can find their own team) and come in dead last in the league three years in a row and get the next Duncan, Rose, and Kobe in the draft. We should be so lucky.

[NewJerSpur]

James Anderson/Ryan Richards on the way out this mofo.

[kaji157]

Trade Ginobili and Duncan to a team that would become a championship contender with these two so that they can win another championship.
Getting back young players and draft pick for this year's and next year's draft, setting a high possibility that we can get the 1st overall seed in next years draft.

[kaji157]

Trade Ginobili and Duncan to a team that would become a championship contender with these two so that they can win another championship.
Getting back young players and draft pick for this year's and next year's draft, setting a high possibility that we can get the 1st overall seed in next years draft.

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs can do with Dice what they did with Ferry and Bruce.

I hope the Dice package includes Bonner

[TDMVPDPOY]

absorb whatever the magic wants to shed salary in a package where d12 is involve, im sure they wanna get rid of agent zeros and turgos contract

[kaji157]

Here's what we have:

Duncan--probably will retire after this fiasco, but if not will not be able to anchor the team. If he stays, he'll have to give up even more minutes and that won't be a problem for a classy guy, but might push a proud superstar into retirement.

Manu--wonderful player, often injured, best possible trade material we have--but I'd hate to lose him for a nothing player half as good. Still good and great at times. The will to win of a great superstar. Let's keep him.

Parker--Tradeable for a decent player--but most teams don't try to trade you even up with a quality player in exchange--and what do you have left without him? Hill?

RJ: Based on the two years here, he is untradeable at his salary level and length of contract. We rolled the dice and lost.

McDyess: An old stallion that still wants to answer the bugles call. Could play a little bench time if he decides to stay on aftet this. Good locker room guy.

Bonner: Simply can't hang with the big boys on defense. OK if he can outshoot the opposition, but Memphis out-coached Pop on this and rendered him ineffective at the 3. As a Hero, he is just a sandwich. Too bad Isaiah Thomas isn't a GM somewhere because he probably is untradeable. A guy like Steve Novak is cheaper and might be a better risk.
I doubt we can get rid of him. ARRRRGH!

Hill: Will never have the killer instinct of a Ginobelli or the resourcefulness of an Indiana Jones. The thought of Hill taking over the Parker minutes permanently should send a chill through everyone. Might be one of the few possibilities we have as trade bait, but we'd probably get someone who sucks.

Neal: Proved he can play a role in this league. Lots of teams will want him, but we should keep him and develop his D. Tough kid with a shooters eye.

Blair: Tough call to say trade this hard-working nice kid--but his liabilities as either a 5 (way too short) or a 4 (too slow or unathletic and no reliable 15 foot shot) against quality opponents have been exposed. When Pop gave Splitter some Blair minutes, he might as well have announced the end of the experiment. Unfortunately, these lack of physical skills and physique limit his value as trade bait. Might get a second round pick with no ACLs for him.

Splitter: Pop delayed his development while rooting for Blair to work out. Too bad he lost this season, but he is the only potential center on our horizon. Not to get into the argument about whether he's gonna be good, bad, or indifferent, let me repeat: HE IS THE ONLY POTENTIAL CENTER ON OUR HORIZON. We'll have to see what he has next year since Pop went with Blair this year. He stays.

What's his name? our rookie draftee? Roberts?, Johnson? Anderson? yeah that's right. And shows what we no about him. No experinence gained this wasted year. As a very low draft pick, he'd be up against other low draft pickes from this year's class if we tried to trade him--and what GM wants a guy that wasn't good enough to play. The GMs can draft their own gambles at those draft slots.

Da Sean Butler; God if he were only to turn our to be half as good as our old Sean. Who knows what he's got left after the injury. FO can flip a coin as to whether to keep him and no one will care which side comes up.

Green, Quin, Novak: Spear carriers in the Opera get more face time than these guys. They really don't matter in rebuilding the team in the long run.

So if you add it all up, we have damn little to trade if we are to remain respectable by keeping the now Middle-level 3 and a problem going forward with them still in key roles.

We ought to ask them if they would like to be traded, even if we have to give them away for players of lesser quality. We owe them for some championship years.

Maybe we should blow it up (Give the Big 3 their unconditional release so they can find their own team) and come in dead last in the league three years in a row and get the next Duncan, Rose, and Kobe in the draft. We should be so lucky.

San Antonio big 3 is not as bad as you put it, the problem is they have NO ONE behind him.
Look at the other teams 4th best players.

Boston: anyone of the BIG 3 (because Rondo is already superior to at leats 2 of them)
Lakers: Artest or Odom depends on how you want to call it.
Miami: Doesn't have, but will soon after this year and their big 3 is better and younger.
Knicks: If Billups retires i don't know what they will be, but i bet a lot of wannabes and oldtimers will look at that island to hang a while.
Chicago: See knicks, and Derrick Rose is like MJ (for the refs)
OKC: See chicago with Durant.

[NewcastleKEG]

Trade splitter, Blair, Neal, and mcdyse for Kevin love and rights to Ricky Rubio. And hopefully Duncan retires or takes less money to sign free agent Dwight Howard. Trade RJ,bonner, and first round draft pick for Thadeus young. Sign Andre kirelinko or tayshawn prince (back up sf.) at MLE.
C.-Howard/Richards
Pf.-Kevin love/duncan
sf.-Thadeus young/Ak/deshawn butler
Sg.-George hill/Manu/James Anderson
Pg.-Parker/Rubio
And a new coach. Take a hike pop
Sg.-hill/Manu/James A

Few issues

Wolves have one single piece from folding that franchise and it's Love. Why deal him for 4 bench players? They can get more from Love than that package from the Spurs. This site written at the All Star break has Hill, Blair and Splitter for Love. But this was of course when Hill & especially Blair had higher values. Your certainty not getting Love & Rubio.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5...nnesota/page/2


Thing about Howard is it most likely will be a sign n trade. Magic won't let another Shaq happen and especially after seeing what's happened to Cleveland. A Bynum (+ others) for a Howard is more likely BUT either way why would Howard sign with the Spurs to get his head knocked in by superior teams in the Conference. He's already gone through the building a franchise years, he won't want to do it in his peak & downward years

Given the Sixers encouraging performance this season why would they take a step back by agreeing to take on dead weight with Jefferson & Bonner?

ONLY way the Spurs are able to ditch both or (gulp) even one of the Jefferson/Bonners is if they give up something in exchange. No one is gonna take your debt AND give you a player/draft pick (value) in exchange

Basically Spurs are screwed for the the season or two unless they unload Parker & Manu. Even then how do you dump the 50 million for Jefferson and Bonner?

Best case scenario for the Spurs long term is deal Parker/Manu for draft picks/young players and then trade Hill + Jefferson/Bonner for draft pick/young players. Get yourself in the lottery for 2013. With the correct moves you could be the Thunder in 2014/2015.

Worst case scenario for Spurs long term is holding onto Duncan, Manu and Parker as they retire 1 by 1, Spurs keep losing in the 1st Round while not adding any legit young prospects. In 2,3 years they are the Detroit Pistons and in 5 years they are a small market team with a bunch of money.

You could be talking about a decade long rebuilding process at that point. Look at the Bulls

[TDMVPDPOY]

Basically Spurs are screwed for the the season or two unless they unload Parker & Manu. Even then how do you dump the 50 million for Jefferson and Bonner?

Best case scenario for the Spurs long term is deal Parker/Manu for draft picks/young players and then trade Hill + Jefferson/Bonner for draft pick/young players. Get yourself in the lottery for 2013. With the correct moves you could be the Thunder in 2014/2015.

You could be talking about a decade long rebuilding process at that point. Look at the Bulls

if you want d12, must either also absorb their bed ridden contracts in turgo and arenas...i doubt the magic want anything to do with these 2 clowns if howard is bolting, you cant build around with those 2 ty pieces after what they have shown nothing since being traded to the magic.

if you wanna rebuild quick? either have 4-5 picks in a single year or 2 consecutive years, just like what the thunder and blazers manage to do to keep a young core together as many years to build a team. What we dont need is to go through the system like some teams who always had high picks that ended up doing all with them and continue to stay a avg team aka farm teams like the clippers, warriors

as for the bulls? dont bring them up after the so many years of gettin free picks from the knicks and mounting to players who have breakout years on a ty team then gettin traded to the knicks again for more picks...lol eddy curry and tyson chandler, hinrich, crawford, brand etc....they had so many good young prospects from lottery picks ended up jack

[outmap]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3wo8qcy

or this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3pg8zv5

or this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=3nombda

whomever is dumb enough to take it. throw in a couple of picks.

[Master splitter]

Thanks, now i feel worse. But I really don't think love will stay and dwight Howard won't be with the magic next year. Hopefully Richards and desean butler can bring some talent, this is all we can hope for. So sad the way it ended for us I really thougt we were gonna go all the way with this team. Freakin pop and bonner

[Ginobili2Duncan]

It is time to start over and there is no use prolonging it. You can customize an old broken down car all you want, but at the end of the day it still won't run for you. That's where the Spurs find themselves now. They have tried to squeeze a few more seasons out of this nucleus for a few years now.

The reality is that this could very well be Duncan's last season when you factor in the possibility of a lockout next season. Duncan has always been a low-key guy and his retirement will be symbolic of his demeanor over his career. And I don't think Duncan would have it any other way. I think it would be better for him to go out gracefully, when he believes he has a little bit left in the tank. As opposed to guys like Favre or O'Neal, it's obvious they should've retired years ago.

If the Spurs FO are honest with themselves, they would know that the time has come to start over. Move players like Parker and McDyess. And attempt to move Jefferson, Bonner and even Ginobili. The Spurs should start looking to get draft picks to stockpile young talent. And in the event that they find a piece to their puzzle, some of that talent can be used as trade bait. Hopefully the Spurs have the same fortune as the Thunder in the next five years. However, teams have to get worse before they get better.

[NewcastleKEG]

if you want d12, must either also absorb their bed ridden contracts in turgo and arenas...i doubt the magic want anything to do with these 2 clowns if howard is bolting, you cant build around with those 2 ty pieces after what they have shown nothing since being traded to the magic.

if you wanna rebuild quick? either have 4-5 picks in a single year or 2 consecutive years, just like what the thunder and blazers manage to do to keep a young core together as many years to build a team. What we dont need is to go through the system like some teams who always had high picks that ended up doing all with them and continue to stay a avg team aka farm teams like the clippers, warriors

as for the bulls? dont bring them up after the so many years of gettin free picks from the knicks and mounting to players who have breakout years on a ty team then gettin traded to the knicks again for more picks...lol eddy curry and tyson chandler, hinrich, crawford, brand etc....they had so many good young prospects from lottery picks ended up jack

The Bulls comparison is the one major bright spot working in the Spurs favor. They have a reliable and proven track record of drafting well and finding hidden gems. Bulls, like you posted wasted a huge amount of talent over that time period.

[ducks]

spurs have not seen enough of splitter to get rid of him

[ducks]

manu and duncan for ?

package them both together you could get two young studs

[5in10]

Trade Blair and whoever for varejao.

[stealthjbravo]

Spurs need to pick up Shaq, Grant Hill and Allen Iverson. That is 3 championships guaranteed.

[DirkDoesWork]

Trade Jim Dunnan to the Bucks
Parker to the Knicks
Jefferson for anyone offering anything
Keep Ginobili to teach the newcomers how to flop like a boss