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Please. My posts have consistently shown that I understand terrorism much better than 90% of the posters on this board. As far as SW, I have nothing personally against her, but her posts lack any real substance. It's to easy and lazy to just blatantly attack people.
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"It's to easy and lazy to just blatantly attack people." ......Idiots need attacking!
As far as SW, I have nothing personally against her, but her posts lack any real substance. It's to easy and lazy to just blatantly attack people.
You're right Dan. Because I don't toe the liberal line I'm ignorant. Sorry I'm not of the belief that by ignoring it it goes away. It really doesn't take a political scholar to figure that one out.
The only possible way to make it stop is to eliminate the people perptuating it. Because if you haven't noticed, they haven't shown a great deal of enthusiam for negotiating, or regard for human life.
Only when you get rid of those *individuals* will there ever be the possiblity for freedom and a relatively peaceful life for their citizens.
"It is okay to lose to opponent, must not lose to fear!"
-Mr. Myagi
The US had not responded to Islamist terrorist attacks against this nation for decades. It tried the ignoring (aka 'understanding why they hate us') approach.
Didn't work.
Here's an idea. Perhaps the US non-response to said terrorism created the impression that indeed the US was weak and did not have the desire to fight back against Islamist terrorism? Did not the retreat from Somalia confirm that impression, much like the retreat from Lebanon after the bombing of the Marine barracks there in 1983?
I don't have a problem with responding to terrorism, it is the inconsistency that sucks.
For me, Saudi Arabia is getting a pass and the slaughter in Sudan to me is also an act of terrorism.
Iraq had no ties to 9/11. They were all Saudi's or am I wrong on that?
Well we have this relationship with the Saudis due to their impact on the global crude market.
Joe, even you will recognize we can't hit all places at once and, given that, we have to keep up pretenses with those who we know are terrorist haven until we've reached their page in the strategy.
Different approaches for different problems. Every one of those mother ers will have their day...provided we stay the course, no matter who's in office.
Another issue I have is with Dubya's stubborness to listen to others. I like a strong leader but a strong leader also needs to listen even if they are giving constructive criticism of your policies.
"Stay the course" is fine and dandy if the course is working.
The past week we've heard form Powell, McCain, Hagel, Lugar..all republicans state that that there are serious concerns on how the war is going.
You don't know that he's not listening...a war strategy can't be turned on a dime.
But can it be turned on billions?
Well Joe, how do you know it is not working: Staying the
course. May I be so bold as to ask the question, have
cide attacks stopped "anywhere" in this world? Are
you saying that they are all Bush's fault?
I will be even more forward and ask the question: just what
in the world is Mr. Kerry going to do about it. Go the the
United Nations? most of them are terriorist or support
terriorist. Kokkie is so crooked he will have to be screwed
into the ground when he dies. God people who give the
United Nations are credit for anything is so blind. Without
our money there would be no United Nations. It was a
good idea that failed.
I'm not saying it is Bush's fault.
Did I mention the United Nations?
Did Bush not address the United Nations today?
What I'm saying is that there is still much work to do in Iraq and perhaps some changes are in need.
I'm not saying to pull out or to make radical changes but to pay heed to the reality of the situation.
The United Nations has been successful, just not when it comes to military solutions. Those in the light blue helmets on have been a failure as far as I'm concerned.
You're defending people who run around committing 9/11, Beslan, Moscow Theater, Marine Barracks, USS Cole, etc.The murder, the mayhem, the violence and slaughter of innocent men, women and children, and all this in the name of what? In the name of God?
You know you're a liberal when you're defending murder, mayhem, voilence and slaughter of innocent men, because it was all carried out AGAINST America, all because America is taking steps to ensure it never happens again.
I don't know what cracks me up more - that you made this statement, or that "you understand terrorism better than 90% of the people on this board."The only way to end terrorism is to end the reasons that Islamist turn to terrorism in the first place - a lack of job, education and a future.
You don't know Dan. Do you know what is at the root of Islam? It sure isn't jobs, education, and a future. It's just that terrorist leaders pray on those without any of the three to help support their cause.
"Islamist" (hint Mr. Terrorist Expert, they're called Muslims) turn to terrorism because in their interpretation of the Qur'an, they feel they have not served God until they have converted the entire world to one Muslim nation.
They turn to terrorism because it is an insult to them that the "infidels" have a stronger economy than them.
They turn to terrorism because there are "infidels" on their holy land (the Arabian peninsula).
They turn to terrorism because they can't fight a conventional war versus our military might, so they have to pick and choose where we're vulnerable.
They turn to terrorism because pussies like you see a few dead bodies and think isolationism is the way to keep America safe, and with America and its allies out of the way they can continue with their penultimate goal - one world, one religion.
You don't know more than 0.9% of this board when it comes to terrorism.
Do yourself a favor and go read a book by someone other than Michael Moore and Kitty Kelly, and you might have a ing clue.
How many Iraqi citizens were behind any of those attacks? None.You're defending people who run around committing 9/11, Beslan, Moscow Theater, Marine Barracks, USS Cole, etc.
You know you're a liberal when you're defending murder, mayhem, violence and slaughter of innocent men, because it was all carried out AGAINST America, all because America is taking steps to ensure it never happens again.
How many active Iraqi plots have been uncovered that targeted America, American citizens, or American interests? None.
WMD? none.
Al-Queda operatives? Nope.
Justifying murder and whole-scale slaughter through ignorance is never very pretty.
Islamist" (hint Mr. Terrorist Expert, they're called Muslims)
What's not surprising is that you can make that statement and proclaim in the same breathe that you know more about the Middle East than I do.
You folks spout the same old crap. The US of A is the
problem. The poor folks who kill our citizens and others
are just mis-understood. You need to get with Kerry,
Moore and the rest of the group and circle jerk. Why
oh why don't you go over there and volunteer to be
homicide bombers or just shoot the invaders? You are
a bunch of assholes. We never have enough evidence
to do anything but hunker down and let them kill us.
Screw you! You are wrong as two left feet, always
were and always will be. You folks have for brains
and every time you open your mouth it comes tumbling
out. Have a nice day.:flipof
Oh, Joe. Does it hurt when you get it shoved up your rear end?
Oh that is so mature of you. :p
I thought you conservatives didn't have nasty, sexual thoughts like those. Sinner! :wink
I don't know if you guys noticed in all your bull arguing, but the 2nd US hostage was killed.
2nd U.S. Hostage Killed in Iraq
By ALEXANDRA ZAVIS
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A posting on an Islamic Web site claimed Tuesday that the al-Qaida-linked group led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has slain a U.S. hostage in Iraq, just 24 hours after grisly video showed the terror mastermind beheading another American captive. The claim could not immediately be verified.
The group, Tawhid and Jihad, kidnapped two Americans - Jack Hensley and Eugene Armstrong - and Briton Kenneth Bigley on Thursday from a home that the three civil engineers shared in an upscale Baghdad neighborhood. Al-Zarqawi beheaded Armstrong, and the militants on Monday posted a gruesome video of the 52-year-old man's death.
The new posting followed the passing of the militants' 24-hour deadline for the release of all Iraqi women from U.S. custody, and after anguished relatives in the United States and Britain begged for the lives of Bigley, 62, and Hensley, who would have marked his 49th birthday Wednesday.
``The nation's zealous sons slaughtered the second American hostage after the end of the deadline,'' the statement said. It was signed with the pseudonym Abu Maysara al-Iraqi, the name usually used on statements from al-Zarqawi's group.
The brief statement did not give the name of the hostage killed. It promised video proof soon.
Tawhid and Jihad - Arabic for ``Monotheism and Holy War'' - has claimed responsibility for killing at least seven hostages, including another American, Nicholas Berg, who was abducted in April. The group has also said it is behind a number of bombings and gun attacks.
This week's back-to-back killings and the threat of more, however, represented a heightened level of psychological warfare in al-Zarqawi's campaign of terror.
A host of militant groups have used kidnappings and bombings as their signature weapons in a blood-soaked campaign to undermine interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's government and force the United States and its allies out of Iraq.
A car bomb wounded four U.S. soldiers Tuesday on the road to Baghdad's airport, underscoring the inability of American forces to control key areas of the capital. West of the capital, two U.S. Marines were killed in separate attacks, the military said Tuesday.
The new posting came hours after President Bush defended his decision to invade Iraq, telling a subdued U.N. General Assembly session that the war launched in 2003 without U.N. approval delivered the Iraqi people from ``an outlawed dictator.''
Bush told Allawi, ``We will not allow these thugs and terrorists to decide your fate and to decide our fate. ``
Allawi said: ``The barbaric action of yesterday is really unbelievable.''
Al-Zarqawi, standing alongside four other masked militants clad in black, personally cut off Armstrong's head, the CIA confirmed after analyzing his voice on the footage.
Earlier Tuesday, Hensley's family in Georgia appealed to his captors to open lines of communication with them and spare his life.
``He was just there doing a service for the Iraqi people - including even his captors,'' Hensley's wife, Pati, told CNN. ``I would plead with them to please realize this man does not deserve this fate.''
Bigley's family echoed her pleas.
``We are begging you not to kill them,'' said Bigley's brother, Philip. ``We are begging you to find a solution, a compromise, that will help to save two lives, innocent lives.''
Armstrong's body was discovered Monday only blocks from where he lived, officials and witnesses said.
In a video posted Saturday, Tawhid and Jihad had threatened to kill the three men unless Iraqi women were released from two U.S.-controlled prisons, Abu Ghraib and Umm Qasr.
Abu Ghraib is the prison where American soldiers were photographed sexually humiliating male prisoners, raising fears about the safety of women detainees.
In Monday's video, al-Zarqawi announced that Tawhid and Jihad was taking revenge for female Iraqi prisoners and called Bush ``a dog.''
The U.S. military says women are not held at either facility but has acknowledged it is holding two female ``security prisoners'' elsewhere. They are Dr. Rihab Rashid Taha, a scientist who became known as ``Dr. Germ'' for helping Iraq make weapons out of anthrax, and Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash, a biotech researcher known as ``Mrs. Anthrax.''
In London, Bigley's son urged British Prime Minister Tony Blair to meet the captors' demands.
``I ask Tony Blair personally to consider the amount of bloodshed already suffered,'' Craig Bigley said in a videotaped statement. ``Please meet the demands and release my father - two women for two men. ... Only you can save him now.''
Blair called the family Tuesday afternoon, but a British Foreign Office spokesman said the government would not give in to the kidnappers.
Foreign Office official Dean McLoughlin later went on Arab television station Al-Arabiya to say ``not even one'' female prisoner was under Britain's control.
U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan condemned the taking and killing of hostages in Iraq. But he also said Iraqi prisoners had been disgracefully abused, an implicit criticism of the U.S. treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib.
``No one is above the law,'' Annan said. ``Again and again, we see fundamental laws shamelessly disregarded - those that ordain respect for innocent life, for civilians, for the vulnerable - especially children.''
Through their sorrow, Armstrong's family extended prayers to relatives of other hostages. Rick Gamber, Armstrong's cousin, told NBC's ``Today Show'' that the family doesn't want revenge.
``Our family feels a great deal of grief,'' he said. ``We hope the criminals are brought to justice, but we certainly don't want people to overreact and do something foolish.''
Also Tuesday, the Turkish VINSAN construction company announced it was bowing to the demands of militants and halting operations in Iraq in a bid to save the lives of 10 kidnapped Turkish employees.
Another Turkish hostage, seized Aug. 5, was released after his company, Atahan Lojistik International, withdrew from Iraq, the Turkish Foreign Ministry said. Tahsin Top's abductors had also demanded a $45,000 ransom. It was not clear if money was paid.
But Turkish state TRT television reported the body of another Turk, identified as Akar Besir, was found early Tuesday near the northern city of Mosul. The station said Besir was a driver for a firm working for the U.S. military and was kidnapped Saturday.
More than 130 foreigners have been kidnapped here, and at least 27 of them have been killed. Many more Iraqis have also been seized in the chaos since Saddam Hussein was ousted last year, in many cases for ransom.
It was inevitable since we cannot negotiate with terrorists.
And I'm not saying you guys shouldn't argue. You should. But when the arguments are who knows more about Islam or terrorism, who's comments are not worthy, who's are substantive, my is bigger than your , etc. Then it's bull .
Bottomline, just because someone can spout regurgitated info that they look up on google and spin to fit their political viewpoints doesn't mean you know jack about terrorism or Muslims.
The "fact" that no WMD's were found in Iraq doesn't mean that they were never there or that the war was pointless. Also, to think that Iraq/Saddam doesn't have connections with Al Queda is ridiculous. I read more about Al Queda PRIOR to 9-11 than most people could ever read in their life.
Kori...
My is bigger than your .
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