This might be Radosoft's problem. Someone needs to slip him some hip hop when he's not looking...
"What's the world coming to when Bob Marley's music is no longer even recognized..."
I was in Jamaica last November for a week, in Long Bay on the non-touristique east end of Jamaica.
A couple of the neighbor guys are DJs and singers. They said there's almost no Reggae left in Jamaica, it's all hip-hop, rap. At least, what gets requested at the clubs is no longer Reggae.
Well, as a musician...I always considered "music" to be...well, musical.
I like good vocals/lyrics as well. Some fantastic vocals done during mo-towns glory days. Harmonies were king in those days. Why I was encouraged so many NBA players listed Marvin Gaye. You don't have to have "complex" instrumentation to be musical. A single guitar and good vocals/lyrics can do it. , you don't even need instrumentation to have music. A good singer, singing alone would do it. Although some might say a good singers voice is, in fact...an instrument. Which I agree with.
The reason I don't consider rap, hip-hop music is...well, cuz it ain't. There is basically no instrumention outside of computerized drum tracks...and the singing...well, what singing?
Music is supposed to be musical. Rap and hip-hop are more poetry than music. And, imho, lousy poetry for the most part
Cha-Ching.Most forms of music originated specifically to express thoughts, ideas, etc.
Why is it always assumed that music has to be some complex form of instrumentaion?
Some people might tend to prefer good beats or instrumental work -- some prefer their music to have strong vocals/lyrics.
I love a crunchy guitar solo, but I also love a great beat or an awesome flow. Why deny yourself of something good to hear just because of some generally preconceived notion of what "music" is?
(Not talking directly to you SouthernFriend, just in general)
Anyhoo, no more, this topic gets me rambling If I am not careful!
[spursrelated]Go Spurs Go!!![/spursrelated]
Music is an expression of the deepest feelings, beliefs and desires of the musician. Good music comes from deep inside, and deep down in yourself, your emotional sides, and intellectual sides merge.
While some rap may seem to have very simple lyrics or several samples from 80s songs with a poor rapper spittin' lyrics over them, not ALL rap is like that. There is actually some excellent rap acts over the years that aren't all about the GANGSTA image. Try a group like A Tribe Called Quest, The Roots, Eric B and Rakim, EPMD etc... Some of these acts are musical, some have excellent lyricists. Not all rap is like the stuff you see on MTV today (even that stuff is not all that generic and unoriginal).
As far as the instrumentation and the computerized comment, how many times can a recording be played back before it is no longer music? If I record a drummer playing a loop, and then play it back while I rap to it, does that mean that the drum loop is no longer music?
Just because someone plays keyboard and is not playing the direct instrument (rather pressing buttons that represent an instrument) doesn't mean he or she is not a musician. I know you did not imply that, but a song can be considered musical in its arrangements as well as the simple act of playing a tangible instrument.
Some Rap Acts do sample old songs from the 80s, but many do it in a clever way and arrange their songs to form a very artistic musical piece.
Personally I do like most forms of music, and I do appreciate good instrumentation (I even like a lot of songs with no lyrics at all). But I don't find it neccesary that a singer has to harmonize his voice in order to be effective as a singer/lyricist in a song.
Just a preference. Not saying all Rap Acts are extremely musical, some aren't, but there is also a large amount of groups that have a lot of instrumentation to them.
Last edited by Nikos; 06-08-2005 at 10:36 AM.
Creed?!!?!:vomit
thanks Solid D. Dumb me. I actually like Bob Marley's song, he used to play in Boracay once... only I refer it as Jamaican.
I read somewhere that Tim likes both Reggae and Hiphop.
Love Nazr's game, but HORRIBLE taste in music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alter Bridge is a lot better than Creed. Myles Kennedy is the best voice in rock music right now.
I read somewhere that Tim likes both Reggae and Hiphop.
Love Nazr's game, but HORRIBLE taste in music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude your high, creed is good stuff!Creed?!!?!
I read somewhere that Tim likes both Reggae and Hiphop.
Love Nazr's game, but HORRIBLE taste in music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree, a lot of kids I work with listen to to that stuff, and at first I defended it..... but the thing is once I learned to understand the lyrics I was horrified. The part that bothers me is that these 16, 17, and 18 year olds believe what they hear in songs are real.
Has nothing to do w/ the lyrics, crunk music just sucks!!!!
You're 14, right?
Ok, you're 12.
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