He wasn't disinterested...I think he was just in shock that everything he does is at half speed now and the Memphis front court never relented in exposing his lack of speed and leaping ability...he is nothing more than a complimentary big that rebounds and defends well despite his physical abilities. He is no longer an All-Star or defensive anchor...just a s of what he once was. It is time for us to focus on getting the next franchise player and if it means blowing up the team...so be it.
Duncan just can't do what he used to do. That's it. He had to work really hard for what he got, and that's a lot to ask from him at this point. The only chance the Spurs have at another championship is to get a very good PF and officially move Tim to center.
But I wouldn't say Duncan is disinterested. Ever, I hope.
RJ and Duncan seem to be good friends, maybe RJ's personality just rubbed off on duncan and made him just not wanna compete. To me it seems that moron jefferson rubbed off onto a lot of our players.
He looked like a guy who was looking over and seeing Matt Bonner trying to guard Zach freakin' Randolph all night.
I thought he looked pretty shocked/upset. Maybe a tad bit more on the shocked side IMO.
He's a dinosaur. What do you expect, missed dunks,low rebounds, no more bank shots.
Theres just not much in the tank.
Hes running on fumes. And tonight it completely evaporated.
Timmy D is officially done.
Duncan's pretty cerebral. You know he was looking around and seeing the suckage of Bonner, Jefferson, Hill, and Blair and wondering what the was going on.
And on the flip side he's seeing Gasol, Zach, Vasquez, Conley all play out of their minds.
Tim was expected to be both the strong and weak side defender, then post up and play his game at the other end with people like Bonner and Blair running around.
No, this doesn't fall on Tim. To many other people were AWOL in this series.
However, like Pop, I think Tim was resigned to the fact that the offensive style of play wasn't conducive to winning playoff games. I saw a few silent confrontations between Tim and Pop, where Tim just turned his back on Pop as Pop was trying to tell him something, and I saw at least once Tim mouth "whatever" as he walked away.
A team tunes a coach out after a while and Tim is no idiot.
You are undoubtedly the most clueless idiot on this forum.
Tim couldn't give a less about Shaq or Kobe's rings.
If you think otherwise you have never seen a Spurs game.
Tim Duncan was awful in this series. He didn't get rebounds unless they fell in to his hands, he put up weak layups and got out played. He was a statue on defense and just didn't move. He showed no emotions unless he was called for a foul. What excuse is there for airballing a FT at the beginning of a game ?
Nah, he's done. I love him for what he did in bringing 4 rings to this city, but he was absolutely a liability on the floor. His contract is an even bigger liability. Do we get the cap space if he retires ? We're going to need it. I don't mind him sticking around as a bench player but he's done. It happens to everyone.
And as much as I love Manu, he played like tonight. He played hard as usual but he threw away the ball and threw up crap shots. I'll always give him the benefit of the doubt and he was playing with an arm and a half but it was not his best game.
RJ = BAD FIT. He needs to go. He started the season great and then trailed off. At least his contract is more manageable to trade now.
I think someone else posted this somewhere but, it was Bruce Bowen's departure that really signaled an end to the team we used to know. We need to get bigger and stronger in the front court. Our back court is fine.
Sadly, we may not even have a season next year. Then what ?
It would suck for Duncan to just fade away due to a lockout. He needs a farewell tour at least. Nothing over the top like the MJ multi-retirement fiasco, just a chance for people around the nation to pay respects to the dude.
Just cause someone isn't yelling and screaming and visibly upset doesn't mean they don't care.
Duncan doesn't show his emotions, but he is a fierce compe or and I'm sure he cared a lot. You could see it in how annoyed he was with some of the post-game questions.
Yeah.
Tim is suited to play the 1999-2003 Robinson role at this point. Instead, Duncan has less help than he ever had inside. He needs to carry as much of a load as he did during his prime, given such little help, but he simply can't.
His decline started a few seasons ago, and it has obviously been magnified with the lack of decent help. As much as he 'sucked' this series, there's little doubt he was the best big in our team. It just feels empty because he used to be such a dominant player.
I think he's not a franchise guy anymore, obviously, but can still play a serviceable-big role for stretches. People need to adjust to this reality.
Nah he got abused in the paint by Z-bo just as much as Bonner. Didn't ya watch the series, El Nono?
so true timmy doesnt care how many rings other guys have
thanks for your time ma'am i was just hoping that timmy could have been more asertive in atleast letting pop know that mat bonner as hard as he works aint gonna make life easier for him inside the paint .. i mean atleast do something about it not throwing bonner under the bus but he could have asked pop to give him splitter to be there inside with him ... im just sad the way it evolved ...
He was the help defender on ZBo... He mostly guarded Gasol... who clearly overpowered him...
You did watch the games, right?
What other Spurs big averaged anywhere near a double-double this series?
I don't think he was disinterested, he's just getting old. Offensively, he really fell off this year, although his defence, rebounding, smarts and leadership are still a positive.
The guy is now 35 and has 1228 (Duncan228!) games on his legs - most NBA players start to decline around the 1000 mark, so we're fortunate he lasted this long before declining markedly.
At this point in his career I think Tim should be able to do whatever he wants to do, whether it be playing on another year or two, retiring, or even being traded to a contender if he really wants another ring. He has more than earned his freedom.
Thank you Tim Duncan. You are the greatest Spurs warrior of all time, and you brought home 4 rings for all of us to admire.
I don't find this shocking, albeit interesting to know. I've long suspected that Tim Duncan has grown increasingly tired of Pop's shenanigans and stupidity.
You better believe Duncan was interested, he just had zero confidence.
He's probably going to take this loss harder than anyone on the team.
Tim's not the franchise anymore. He can still play the DRob to a new Tim. The problem is, that's got to be someone tall that can play in the post and block some shots. i.e., someone not named Blair or Bonner.
They could honestly do a lot putting Splitter in the starting five and letting him play pick and roll all day long. Tom has that nice mid-range jumper that would compliment the PnR well (and it would decrease the wear and tear on him as well).
But they need a third "low post" big man to go with them. None of this candy ass stretch four .
Am I the only one who wasn't too impressed with Splitter? He just seemed to much of a finesse player, which really doesn't complement well with Duncan at this stage in his career. Spurs need a tough, big body down in the low post who can scruffle and muscle his way to boxing out/rebounding and who has the size/length to defend the paint. Splitter only has the size, not sure if he has the toughness.
I was looking at the interview in NBA.com, and he said it was probably one of the toughest loses for him...
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