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No just a case of a team being nothing more than first round cannon fodder.
So what do we call this case? A fluke from the skies?
No just a case of a team being nothing more than first round cannon fodder.
that Mavs team didnt even have a true point guard, just two combo guards, and their centers were DeSagana Diop and Erik Dampier....their coach was Avery Johnson who coached like a rookie against Don Nelson (who coincidently enough basically built the Mavs team that he was playing against)...anyway, i digress
Ok, when were they better?
clearly, 2006
We were more talented overall, but head to head, they were better. I honestly believe that they were the only team that could've beaten us that year.
False. The '07 Mavs would've raped the '06 Mavs.
2003.
Dirk was ting all over the Spurs before he got injured. Just another lucky break by San Antonio.
1999-*. 2003-Dirk injury. 2005-Lakers rebuilding. 2007 - Donaghy/Stu Jackson schemes.
2003: Dirk had Nash, Finley, and Don Nelson
2011: This team is better than the 07 team (especially if Caron wouldnt have gotten injured). Even without Caron, it's the best overall DEFENSIVE team in the Dirk era. They have the two best centers in the Dirk era (first time Dirk has played with an above average center). They have a quality coach, who can actually play chess instead of checkers, and a true point guard floor general which allows them to put Terry in a more natural role.
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To guys like me, m>s, and DD who saw through that phony Run n' Gun all season, yet SpurFan scoffed us saying that the only team that could beat them was the Lakers.
But, of course, now once the Spurs actually do lose it was obvious all along they weren't contenders
you're not getting out of this, you're eating your sandwichPERIOD
The Spurs didn't choke...if they had been up 3 games to 1 and then lost in 7, it would've been a choke...the Grizzlies were just better...anyone who watched the series could see that clearly. Seeding doesn't matter much in the West...any team 1 thru 8 can beat any other team...the first round showed us that.
We are talking about 2006...
Spur fan isn't a collective en y. You can treat it as such, but then you have to accept that you will be lumped in with the other fans of your team as well.To guys like me, m>s, and DD who saw through that phony Run n' Gun all season, yet SpurFan scoffed us saying that the only team that could beat them was the Lakers.
But, of course, now once the Spurs actually do lose it was obvious all along they weren't contenders
you're not getting out of this, you're eating your sandwichPERIOD
There were plenty of people saying the Spurs were not built for a championship. You probably won't find those takes in the troll threads however.
You can imagine it how you wish, whatever makes your online experience more entertaining. The facts are there for anyone to see if they cared to research.
Having the best record in the league until the last day of the season. Losing HCA in about 20 mins to an 8th seed that PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGED they tanked to get you? It most definetly is a choke and with a major slap in the face with it.
It can't be a choke, dude...you actually have to be leading the series in order to choke.Having the best record in the league until the last day of the season. Losing HCA in about 20 mins to an 8th seed that PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGED they tanked to get you? It most definetly is a choke and with a major slap in the face with it.
Sure but how many Spurfans realistically thought they were gonna lose to Memphis before the series? There were some Spurfans out there who knew this team didn't have what it takes, but they didn't expect them to lose in the 1st round.
If you had to be $500 on either SA or Memphis before the series, were you really gonna put the money on Memphis?
Same thing with the Dallas series in 07. Either both teams choked, or neither choked.
Guys, this is a choke plain and simple. When Lebron and the Cavs lost to the Magic or Celtics it was a choke, but here we have a 1st seed that lost to an 8th seed and its not a choke?
i don't care if its a choke or not. (Choke is thrown around so loosely around here, I'm not even sure what exactly it means tbh)
My point is that there is nothing different than the Spurs series and the 07 Mavs series. Both teams ran into two teams that gave them matchup nightmares that exposed their weakness while outplaying them from the start.
You can't say one choked and the other didn't.
Agreed, sadly.
Agreed that it wasn't a choke and it was more a matter of Memphis just playing better and having a favorable match-up against the Spurs. But I disagree with Hollinger's explanation/reasoning why it's not considered a choke.
If that were the case, then the New England Patriots didn't choke in Super Bowl XLII.
I promise I wasn't gonna cry but john in hollinger did it.
pretty funny trying to compare a 3 star team failures to a 1 star team failures.
The Grizz were better in this series because the Spurs wilted when it mattered. The Spurs were clearly the better team all season and it wasn't even close. The Grizz didn't even have Gay and they still manhandled the Spurs. That's a choke.
well i agree with you there. imo both teams choked. big time.
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