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    lol lack of talent. The front office can sure magically make quality bigs disappear from the roster. Nazr is still in an NBA rotation for a playoff team. The Spurs didn't need more stars, they needed basic things like backup point guards and centers and consistently failed to attempt to get or develop those things. Some of the guys that tore the Spurs up the last six games were available to the Spurs in the draft or via free-agency.

    Bottom line, the Spurs got small, Duncan and Splitter are well rested for the summer.
    And how long have spurs fans been clamoring for a defensive wing? They get one finally (Hairston), put a load of time & money into him, then let his ass go for nothing.

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    There should be a Pop apologist of the year award. Never did I think someone would come in a day after a historic playoff upset, perhaps the second biggest of all time and try to tell people that the Spurs were an overachieving team all due to the coach.
    Co-sign

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    The ability of SA to win 50-60 games the last 14 years prevented restocking this roster with enough top tier players. Tony Parker and Manu became All Stars against all odds to allow the last three le runs along with some shrewd player acquisitions outside of the draft.
    This is baloney though... Dallas did it. Heck, the Spurs did it when they traded for RJ... who they thought was a top tier player...
    What it takes is the realization that you need balsy moves to shake up the roster. We instead insisted on throwing stupid money at the status quo (see Finley, Bonner, Jefferson).

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    Bump...

    The hits keep coming... Any coach with half a brain would realize the team needs Splitter to play 30 minutes a night. Should have happened over a year ago tbh.

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    ignorance at his best

    remember when he played the vets over rookies, wankers like NVE, FINLEY...who else?

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    Didn't our Spurs became a run and gun team most of the time this season? And they have this alley-oops play for RJ (which I think is the only play they drew up for him, correct me if I'm wrong) that works perfectly. But now, we set up half court plays, didn't run more than usual and that means less production from RJ.



    The 4 critical playoff games? We don't know what the coaches want every game, what play they want to run and everything, but I'm pretty sure he didn't receive enough touches or plays for him to get going.

    Think of it this way, if a play is drawn for someone then he messes it up and creates a play for himself but he wasn't able to do good/score, what would you think about him? What would the coaches do to him? Me? I'd be happy for him doing that even if it fails because I know he want to get things going for himself, but I'm just me, just a fan, my opinion is not as important compared to the Spurs coaches.
    RJ shouldn't need a special play just to get alley-oops. It's cause of Parkers passing inability that they need a play.

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    playing down our le in 07. Please.

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    Look, at the beginning of this all I thought playing Blair/Bonner together was an absolute "no". That was because I underestimated Splitter. After seeing his potential upside, I now feel the benefits of playing him (starting him) alongside Tim outweighs the negatives of pairing Blair/Bonner together.

    Manu off the bench when he returns to assist in the matter, start TP/Kawhi/RJ/Tiago/Tim.

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    The 07 le was our weakest. A solid showing for sure, but Dallas would have been tough and at the least was our toughest opponent we would have faced. les take some luck every year and the Dallas loss parted the sea for us. Is this debatable?

    Back to Pop...I think we all assume he's acting like an idiot but no matter how much alcohol may have ravaged his brain he's still not dumb by any obvious measure. Instead, he's probably just a bitter insecure asshole at times, which really clouds his decision making.

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    Starting Splitter could still work. He needs to get 35+ minutes every night. He can handle it (i think)

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    I mentioned this in another thread, that Pop, imo, knows that benching Blair will probably mean losing whatever production Blair can provide. Pop seems to have faith that Splitter can produce, coming off the bench, and likes to have that secuirty blanket in Splitter, some what similar to having manu starring in his 6th man role.

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    Sure that logic might make sense if Tiago was getting Manu-type minutes. When a player is getting 20 minutes a game, that player doesn't have the confidence of the coach.

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    Sure that logic might make sense if Tiago was getting Manu-type minutes. When a player is getting 20 minutes a game, that player doesn't have the confidence of the coach.
    Yea its flawed logic, because of Splitter not getting more minutes. I'm hoping that its just a temporary problem.

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    Look, at the beginning of this all I thought playing Blair/Bonner together was an absolute "no". That was because I underestimated Splitter. After seeing his potential upside, I now feel the benefits of playing him (starting him) alongside Tim outweighs the negatives of pairing Blair/Bonner together.

    Manu off the bench when he returns to assist in the matter, start TP/Kawhi/RJ/Tiago/Tim.
    If you start Splitter, Pop can still get creative to avoid the handicapped duo when the game is compe ive.

    I.E: - Start Splitter/ Duncan
    - Sub Blair for Splitter around 6 minute mark
    - Sub Splitter for Duncan around 2 minute mark
    - Start 2nd w/ Splitter/ Blair
    -Sub Bonner and Duncan for Blair/Splitter around 8 min.mark
    - Sub Splitter for Bonner around 3-4 minute mark.

    Repeat for 2nd half

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    Exactly. No problem with Splitter coming off the bench if hes still getting 30 plus minutes and ENDING games with TD. That would work just fine.

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    Which is what makes this all puzzling. When we as fans can see the glaring holes in Pop's logic we need to stop and look at "why". The simple, yet difficult answer is that Pop isn't very high on Tiago.

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    Which is what makes this all puzzling. When we as fans can see the glaring holes in Pop's logic we need to stop and look at "why". The simple, yet difficult answer is that Pop isn't very high on Tiago.
    I find that hard to believe. I'm more in line with Pop not completely trusting Splitter, and taking his sweet ass time unleashing Splitter. But if what you say has merit, then Pop would need to be fired.

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    I find that hard to believe. I'm more in line with Pop not completely trusting Splitter, and taking his sweet ass time unleashing Splitter. But if what you say has merit, then Pop would need to be fired.
    JJ, look at the facts only. I know we all try to figure out what we think is right and what should be happening and the reasons why, but in the midst of the guessing game we fail to look for the simple answer; what is actually happening.

    Tiago is barely cracking 19MPG. It's not clear that he is even the third big in front of Bonner and he is clearly behind Blair. Pop has repeatedly and publicly down played Tiago's abilities (calling him "blue-collar", saying he isn't "skilled"....). He also says, after looking at the MPG, that Tiago is getting as many minutes as he can possibly get him. Last year, he said "it wouldn't be fair to get Tiago minutes". Then he says "he was injured a lot" when the games played clearly opposes that.

    He's not high on him. He doesn't trust him. It all goes together. Will it change? I'm sure we all hope so. It's not that he makes the Spurs surefire contenders, but we all see that he has enough upside to where if it does work, they will have a better chance.

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    If you start Splitter, Pop can still get creative to avoid the handicapped duo when the game is compe ive.

    I.E: - Start Splitter/ Duncan
    - Sub Blair for Splitter around 6 minute mark
    - Sub Splitter for Duncan around 2 minute mark
    - Start 2nd w/ Splitter/ Blair
    -Sub Bonner and Duncan for Blair/Splitter around 8 min.mark
    - Sub Splitter for Bonner around 3-4 minute mark.

    Repeat for 2nd half

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    Hairston and Temple

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    Notice how you are leaving Ian out now

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    Notice how you are leaving Ian out now
    OP doesnt mention Ian

    Although tbf I wouldnt put Ian in the same boat as those two scrubs.

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    There was a time you did

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    Malik was a scrub, fringe NBA player at best. I wouldnt put Ian on the same boat as hes having a decent year in Dallas but I dont think he was ever the difference maker ST made him out to be. His defense is nothing special despite his size and athleticism.

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    JJ, look at the facts only. I know we all try to figure out what we think is right and what should be happening and the reasons why, but in the midst of the guessing game we fail to look for the simple answer; what is actually happening.

    Tiago is barely cracking 19MPG. It's not clear that he is even the third big in front of Bonner and he is clearly behind Blair. Pop has repeatedly and publicly down played Tiago's abilities (calling him "blue-collar", saying he isn't "skilled"....). He also says, after looking at the MPG, that Tiago is getting as many minutes as he can possibly get him. Last year, he said "it wouldn't be fair to get Tiago minutes". Then he says "he was injured a lot" when the games played clearly opposes that.

    He's not high on him. He doesn't trust him. It all goes together. Will it change? I'm sure we all hope so. It's not that he makes the Spurs surefire contenders, but we all see that he has enough upside to where if it does work, they will have a better chance.
    We can speculate if Pop's "not liking him" and "trust" factor, is one and the same. And let me be clear that I'm not trying to justify Pops reasons for not playing Splitter last year, as well as not inserting Splitter in the starting lineup, or Splitter's lack of playing time this year, so far. Just trying to figure out WTF Pop is thinking, in regards to Splitter. Splitter has proven that he deserves to start, or at least get 25 minutes every night.

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