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unfortunatly for the pistons they don't have the horses to stop their ultimate fate, watch ing the spurs celebrate.Same right here. This team isn't going down without a of a fight. I can guarentee that.
That article was crap....and the same kind of crap Spurs have been listening to since Phil's famous "*" remark.
Edit - sorry MadDog, I just saw your post.
unfortunatly for the pistons they don't have the horses to stop their ultimate fate, watch ing the spurs celebrate.Same right here. This team isn't going down without a of a fight. I can guarentee that.
If that was two cents worth I want a penny back.
That's right people, Fear Our Luck!
It's the only thing that has got us here....
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it's kind of funny how Spurs fan remembers .04 but suffers amnesia over the possession before that when a stumbling Duncan flung up a prayer to put the spurs up. That shot was pure luck at least on a par with the one Fisher hit... but of course it's skill when it happens to your guy and luck when it happens to theirs, right?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=240513024
Also conveniently overlooked by Spurs fan is that it was only game five. There was still an opportunity to go out and come up big in the clutch on the road in game six but the Spurs couldn't get it done. All the focus is on game five, not the blown second chance in game six.SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- Tim Duncan threw the ball up, fell down and heard the cheers. From his hands and knees, he looked to the San Antonio bench with wide eyes, and asked, "Did it go in?" Told that it did, he ran to the sideline and was mobbed by teammates.
Of course the ever-lucky pistons, faced with a similar challenge down 3-2 to NJ last year manned up and got it done in game six on the road.
I guess it's lucky to be able to go out and win the elimination games on the road and the Spurs just didn't have that kind of "luck" last year.
Having followed the inevitable logic this far, let's just call a spade a spade. When you have a 2-0 series lead, losing four straight is a choke job. No luck involved.
Last edited by geerussell; 06-08-2005 at 02:15 PM.
Hey, we didn't write the article. Most of us Spurs fans agree that luck is part of the game and what makes it exciting.
PS. Thanks for bringing up the .4 sec business again
They also forget luck is going to the lotto and picking up David Robinson. They also forget luck is going to the lotto and picking up Tim Duncan.
Tim's shot was as lucky as Fisher's. Fisher's is just a bit more spectacular because.04
Genius, no one is forgetting anything. WE DIDN'T WRITE THAT ARTICLE.
No one that I've ever heard said Tim's was either lucky, pure skill or otherwise, but regardless, his shot was rendered irrelevant by Fisher's no matter how awesome it was. And I say awesome because at the time we were losing with virtually no time left and it put us ahead...so yeah, we were pretty exstatic for a few fractions of a second.
That's what pisses us off. Well that, and the physical improbability of actually making that shot in .40.
Last edited by SpursWoman; 06-08-2005 at 03:15 PM.
Man, that article is so stupid I'm not even going to go beyond the first paragraph. Everyone said the same about the Spurs in 2003.
I know you guys didn't write that article. If you guys want to talk about luck though, the rules state that you are able to catch and shoot with .04 left. So how do you figure that shot is improbable? The shot was reviewed and determined good. I'm just comparing different scenarios of luck to compare with what you consider luck. Luck is luck, not just the only way you want to see it.Genius, no one is forgetting anything. WE DIDN'T WRITE THAT ARTICLE.
Not only Piston fans, but Spurs fans alike should discredit this guy's article. In reality he said that a sub-par team (LAKERS) with weak links (Devin George) beat the Spurs(then Champion Spurs) in a seven game series. That one player (Karl Malone) was the difference in beating the Spurs but not the Pistons. That is obsurd. Dont give me that lucky shot at the end thing either, because Tim Duncans fall-away jumper at the top of the key over Shaq wasnt the most practised shot in Timmy's arsenol I know.
Finally, I really do think that injuries come to the unprepared. The main reason why the Pistons dont have many injuries and especially bad ones is that they are well conditioned.
This guy gets paid to run his mouth but we as fans dont have to buy what he is selling.
999,999,999 times out of 1,000,000,000 no one will make that shot...especially not against the Spurs. And I say not against the Spurs because they are *above average* defensively. That's why I call it improbable.
I didn't say impossible, because obviously it is not. I said improbable.
Last edited by SpursWoman; 06-08-2005 at 03:13 PM.
Its also funny how geerussell and majicman lack the mental ability to realize not all Spurs fans think alike. Nobody here was saying the Pistons were lucky. It was a writer who has NOTHING to do with San Antonio. If you were here last year, and judging by your posts you weren't, most Spurs fans acknowledged the lucky shot by..wait for it...BOTH PLAYERS. The smart Spurs fans here on this board realized that the .4 game sucked but it should have never come down to that. But if fans like gee and majic want to keep making up, I guess we can't change that.
Well said.Finally, I really do think that injuries come to the unprepared.
...and the 2 games before it sucked and the game that followed it sucked too... sixteen quarters of suckage it's amazing they didn't choke on it, oh wait they did.
no one is denying a choke job. that was my point. The .4 game was full of a lot of mistakes by the Spurs. Games don't come down to luck, they come down to skill. They did choke on it. If they would have adjusted their game when the Lakers changed theirs after going down 0-2, the Spurs could have easily won that series. They failed to execute and it cost them.
LOL. Somebody listened to Rome today.
Let's take this opportunity to retire a few facts to the rafters.
1) .4 blew monkey nuts, but it happened.
2) Yes, the Spurs choked against the Lakers. Hedo, Horry, and Bruce couldn't buy a bucket.
3) The Lakers did not play like they did against the Spurs and a major part of that was Karl Malone. If you look at that Lakers team during the regular season the same story gets told. With Malone they looked like Champs, when he missed 15 games or so with the knee injury they sucked ass. Could the Pistons have won against a healthy Lakers squad last year? Maybe, but all the Detroit fans who would believe that they beat the same team that beat the Spurs would be dead wrong.
4)Debating history is blowing a dead moose. You can do it until you're blue in the face but you're not going to get change anything. Le'ts talk about the series at hand, as that is really far more interesting.
Omigod, just when we were talking about .04. I'm listening to xtra sports radio right now and a Spurs fan just called in saying Spurs got robbed last year. Crying about how it's humanly impossible and they got robbed big time. Dude was saying Spurs aren't saying much about it all the while he's crying about it. Shaking my head. Radio host rips him a new one and set him straight. Asked why not because rules state that it is possible and it was reviewed. LMAO just too much of a coincidence.
Not impossible, improbable.
Isn't it funny how it seems that a lot of the same random fans who call in to radio shows and make faces over Charles Barkley's shoulder on national TV, uncannily resemble those who get abducted and experimented on by aliens?
And no, mouse, I wasn't referring to people like Kori who cover sports for a living more or less....just random fans who's apparent purpose on earth is to embarrass mankind.
Absolutely, the Pistons have had some lucky breaks the last two post seasons. Jason Kidd's injury, Jermaine's injury, Shaq's injury, Dwyane Wade's injury, Karl Malone's injury, Kobe's selfishness.
Absolutely, those were great breaks for the Pistons.
You need a little bit of luck along the way to a championship. You also need to be very good.
And, not to indict Spurs fans to say they subscribe to what that article wrote, BUT I don't hear anyone in the media saying the Spurs lucked out because Vlad Radmonovic and Rashard Lewis were injured in the Seattle series. Or, that Joe Johnson missed the first few games of the Phoenix series. Or, the fact that Tim Duncan made a near impossible shot himself to get the lead before the .4 Fisher shot. Or, way back in 2003, that Kenyon Martin had the flu in the series clincher. They don't talk about it, because at the end of the day, history will remember who won and lost, not the "NOTES" astericking the win or loss.
One thing to note, while all these teams are having injuries against the Pistons this time of year, the Pistons have remained "relatively" healthy, and the team takes a lot of pride in its strength and conditioning programs. Arnie Kandor, the Detroit Pistons strength and conditioning coach, is widely regarded in the NBA and in all of sports as one of the best in the business. Sometimes you make your own luck.
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