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    The last time we played them they beat us..

    The last time we beat them we nearly choked a huge lead because we tried to play half court inside out with them in the 4th...

    And because Billups went off on us and Prince killed us with garbage...

    The Pistons are built to destroy our typical half court offense...when TimVP said they were built to beat the Spurs...he was talking about the Spurs team that did that...the old Spurs

    They most definitely are not built to beat us with Manu, Barry and Parker playing their dizzying perimeter game they played early in the season and when Duncan was injured late.

    I don't want to see Duncan getting the ball in the 4th if the Pistons are running their set D, I want it going through Manu, Parker, and Barry on the perimeter...running it through Duncan with Sheed and Wallace in the paint...that's a disaster in the making if you ask me. Tim is going to turn it over...

    The only reason we beat them that one time this season was because Barry came in ice cold off the bench and nailed two clutch FT's when the rest of the team was choking them...


    Yeah they beat us last game, btw... I noticed it was a really close game until the end..without the best player in the NBA....



    Yeah we almost choked on a 21 point lead in SA the game before that..but do you really think that will happen again?

    That's why that game was controlled till the end, they tried to avoid it and I'm guessing they will try to avoid it again aswell.

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    "I'd do him and I'm straight" Are you sure you are straight? It sounds pretty bad to me. I would not be showing that on my post if I were you.

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    Yeah they beat us last game, btw... I noticed it was a really close game until the end..without the best player in the NBA....
    And you know why it was as close as it was without Duncan? Because we didn't have the option of getting conservative with Duncan in the 4th...we had to use our perimeter game...just like we did when we built that big lead on them in the first game...



    Yeah we almost choked on a 21 point lead in SA the game before that..but do you really think that will happen again?
    If we get conservative it WILL happen again...and not only will it happen...but we won't win this series.

    That's why that game was controlled till the end, they tried to avoid it and I'm guessing they will try to avoid it again aswell.
    The Pistons are better at a conservative half court game than we are now...maybe not on defense...but on offense they definitely have the edge in that type of game because they will attack from 3 different angles...we'll pretty much be attacking with Duncan. Every team in the NBA knows how to disrupt that offense when they know it is coming. Wallce squared will destroy it.

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    The pistons have the edge on defense. Spurs will have to force turnovers to get easy fastbreak opportunities that will give them the edge on offense. In a half court set Detroit wins.

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    The pistons have the edge on defense.
    You keep making this statement and I can only conclude that the reason you keep making it is because you are a Mav fan and have never seen any semblance of defense...

    PPG Allowed - Spurs
    FG% Allowed - Spurs
    Assits PG Allowed - Spurs
    Turnovers forced per game - Spurs
    Turnovers made per game - Spurs
    Defensive Rebounds per game - Spurs
    Steals per game - Spurs
    Blocks per game - Spurs

    All NBA defenders - Spurs

    Care to explain why you keep making that statement?

    The only things that count in the Pistons favor...

    3pt PCT

    They have the DPOY...guess what? We had the guy that came in second...and he's not the guy on our team that has made 8 consecutive all 1ST NBA defensive teams.


    Just give me your logic in continually making that statement with zilch to back it up...otherwise I am just going to consider you a typical Mavs fan that does not know D.

    We were #1 in PPG allowed...even with Duncan missing substantial PT...

    We did this in the conference with the top 3 scoring teams in the NBA...


    Gimme something to show me why you keep making that statement. There is nothing to back it up...at worst we are their equal.

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    "I'd do him and I'm straight" Are you sure you are straight? It sounds pretty bad to me. I would not be showing that on my post if I were you.

    Are you stupid? Obviously it's a ing joke, I've talked about this before... the last thing you want to do is try to "insult" me about it.


    And I wouldn't give a what anyone thought about it... it shows that I have respect for the man in the long run..

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    The same team last year who the Lakers scored at will at against the Pistons were able to shut down. Many pistons games this year were lack of interest games that shouldn't mean much. When it comes to the playoffs the pistons have proven to defend when it really counts. The spurs try harder on defense during the season. Phoenix scored 103 points a game against San Antonio and the Lakers also scored alot last year. You don't remember how good this Detroit defense can be. They still haven't reached their peak but it could happen in the finals.

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    And you know why it was as close as it was without Duncan? Because we didn't have the option of getting conservative with Duncan in the 4th...we had to use our perimeter game...just like we did when we built that big lead on them in the first game...





    If we get conservative it WILL happen again...and not only will it happen...but we won't win this series.



    The Pistons are better at a conservative half court game than we are now...maybe not on defense...but on offense they definitely have the edge in that type of game because they will attack from 3 different angles...we'll pretty much be attacking with Duncan. Every team in the NBA knows how to disrupt that offense when they know it is coming. Wallce squared will destroy it.
    -Duncan did struggle in the first game, but I believe it was only for the first half.. I mean the boy had an 18 and 18 game..



    -What makes you think the Spurs won't get conservative in the FINALS? Don't you know this Spurs team? It's the Finals.. you have to keep that in your head..

    -The problem is not that the detroit pistons have a way to attack on offense...it's our approach to their offense... will our defense come out? We haven't been able to play against half court teams in the whole playoffs... we had to beat them at their own game and we did.. I don't think they are the better offensive team because of that, but it will definately be a wakeup call for the Spurs when they have to realize we have to play the old "D".


    On these types of games, Rasheed will not end up giving his team a win... due to Duncan, because Duncan's gonna carry his..he's been here before and Rasheed hasn't been on a series where he has to face a 2 time Finals MVP..

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    The same team last year who the Lakers scored at will at against the Pistons were able to shut down. Many pistons games this year were lack of interest games that shouldn't mean much. When it comes to the playoffs the pistons have proven to defend when it really counts. The spurs try harder on defense during the season. Phoenix scored 103 points a game against San Antonio and the Lakers also scored alot last year. You don't remember how good this Detroit defense can be. They still haven't reached their peak but it could happen in the finals.

    Let me put it simple..


    Spurs Defense>Detroit Defense

    I hope you understand like this..

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    Are you stupid? Obviously it's a ing joke, I've talked about this before... the last thing you want to do is try to "insult" me about it.


    And I wouldn't give a what anyone thought about it... it shows that I have respect for the man in the long run..
    I guess I missed that joke since it was some lame humor. I also heard you got kicked off before because of acting bad. All that I know is I would be embarrassed with that written on my post.

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    I guess I missed that joke since it was some lame humor. I also heard you got kicked off before because of acting bad. All that I know is I would be embarrassed with that written on my post.

    lame humor? Actually it's funny to spurs fans, if you don't see the humor in it what makes you think I'm serious?

    You heard I got kicked off? Yeah I did....so what's your point? My point is I'm still here, and I can tell you no to try to insult me.

    And I really don't care if you would be embarrased with that written on your signature...

    I would be embarrassed of having a Mavericks Avatar..



    Do you see my point?

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    The Spurs can run Detroit to death. If the Spurs get into exchanging baskets and a half court set than it is Bye Bye Spurs.

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    The Spurs can run Detroit to death. If the Spurs get into exchanging baskets and a half court set than it is Bye Bye Spurs.

    I really can't believe most spurs fans think that running is what the Spurs should do to win.

    Have you guys forgotten about the D that got them there?


    Please don't give them the offense le because if they try this they will lose.

    I really think the Spurs are the better half court team and they have proved it against this team.

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    lame humor? Actually it's funny to spurs fans, if you don't see the humor in it what makes you think I'm serious?

    You heard I got kicked off? Yeah I did....so what's your point? My point is I'm still here, and I can tell you no to try to insult me.

    And I really don't care if you would be embarrased with that written on your signature...

    I would be embarrassed of having a Mavericks Avatar..



    Do you see my point?
    I see that you are a big time homer and can't give the pistons any credit for anything. They only won the championship last year. I think the spurs are better on offense so it will be an interesting series. People have complained about you insulting not just me but other people. If you could just calm down and give other people on this forum some respect you wouldn't have gotten kicked off.

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    I see that you are a big time homer and can't give the pistons any credit for anything. They only won the championship last year. I think the spurs are better on offense so it will be an interesting series. People have complained about you insulting not just me but other people. If you could just calm down and give other people on this forum some respect you wouldn't have gotten kicked off.

    1. How am I a Homer? Don't tell me I don't give credit to the Pistons because I do.. I however don't give credit to the Mavs..and that pisses you off.

    2. I know they won a championship last year, but I don't believe they got the best matchup in the finals... they deserve it..but I would've loved for them to face the better team in the finals... because I always wondered, "what if?".

    3. You think the Spurs are better on offense because they just beat the suns are their game, and the sonics... who cares, that didn't get them to where they have been all the time.. a championship contender.. it's the defense idiot..learn it. Atleast your Mavs tried this year.

    4. As far as I know I got another chance... I wouldn't mind getting kicked off if people voted me off.. but I haven't seen that, the only people I insult are the trolls that come to this forum, and the idiots that try to insult me, the spurs, or the fans.

    5. I know I got kicked off, and I apologized to Kori, if you would've been on the Spurs bandwagon earlier you would've seen in what kind of situation I was.

    I suggest you don't try to point me out of the crowd by claiming I insult everyone.

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    The same team last year who the Lakers scored at will at against the Pistons were able to shut down. Many pistons games this year were lack of interest games that shouldn't mean much. When it comes to the playoffs the pistons have proven to defend when it really counts. The spurs try harder on defense during the season. Phoenix scored 103 points a game against San Antonio and the Lakers also scored alot last year. You don't remember how good this Detroit defense can be. They still haven't reached their peak but it could happen in the finals.

    This is much better...unfortunately...you still don't have much to back up your claims...

    LA scored 88 PPG("at will") against us last season in the playoffs...

    They scored 81.8 PPG against the Pistons...

    A whopping 7 PPG difference...

    Do ya think the Second Leading scorer in NBA history, being injured might have had just a leeeeeeettle bit to do with that 6.2 point difference? Even at his old age?

    The much maligned Rasho held Shaq to 22PPG...he averaged 26 PPG against the Pistons..and they are the Shaq stoppers?


    As for these playoffs..lmao..The freaking Nuggets averaged almost as many PPG as the Heat...the best offensive team the Pistons have played...and the Nuggets are the worst offensive team we have played...

    The Suns are pretty tough to stop BTW...in case you didn't notice.

    What should scare the out of the rest of the NBA is that we beat them with our offense...without really fighting much on D.

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    There are people on this forum that don't agree with me but don't follow with comments like idiot, moron, and etc. I wish you could learn from that.

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    There are people on this forum that don't agree with me but don't follow with comments like idiot, moron, and etc. I wish you could learn from that.

    I wish you wouldn't be an idiot so you would understand.

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    This is much better...unfortunately...you still don't have much to back up your claims...

    LA scored 88 PPG("at will") against us last season in the playoffs...

    They scored 81.8 PPG against the Pistons...

    A whopping 7 PPG difference...

    Do ya think the Second Leading scorer in NBA history, being injured might have had just a leeeeeeettle bit to do with that 6.2 point difference? Even at his old age?

    The much maligned Rasho held Shaq to 22PPG...he averaged 26 PPG against the Pistons..and they are the Shaq stoppers?


    As for these playoffs..lmao..The freaking Nuggets averaged almost as many PPG as the Heat...the best offensive team the Pistons have played...and the Nuggets are the worst offensive team we have played...

    The Suns are pretty tough to stop BTW...in case you didn't notice.

    What should scare the out of the rest of the NBA is that we beat them with our offense...without really fighting much on D.
    There isn't much difference in the defenses but I think Detroit has more muscle and length to follow their defense. I could see teams score alot against San Antonio despite their tenacious defense but Detroit can beat you in a different way. Rasheed and Ben Wallace are 2 of some of the top defensive big men in the league. Mohammad is not quite there.

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    There isn't much difference in the defenses but I think Detroit has more muscle and length to follow their defense. I could see teams score alot against San Antonio despite their tenacious defense but Detroit can beat you in a different way. Rasheed and Ben Wallace are 2 of some of the top defensive big men in the league. Mohammad is not quite there.
    Do you remember that nazr got traded from the knicks? I'd say it's pretty hard to adjust to pop's style of play when you come from such a bad team.

    As far as I know, the Spurs have bowen and Duncan...2 of the 5 best defenders in the league.

    If San Antonio is willing to let other teams score, as long as they get the win...they will, who cares about the ppg avereged against them, the win is the only thing that matters.


    You also underestimate Rasho Nesterovic...

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    Rasho Nesterovic. Come on. I give you credit for Bowen and Duncan being great defenders but Rasho is too slow to be a great defender. Duncan has made every center look good because he takes away their defiencies on defense. Nesterovic won't be playing so it will depend on Horry and Mohammad.

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    who is gonna defend Duncan??

    Ive yet to hear.

    If its Rasheed, hes easy to play against.

    Ben Wallace is a joke one on one defensively.
    This just goes to show you that thousands of posts and intelligence don't necessarily have anything in common.

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    Bad thing about Rasheed is dealing with hime defensively. I'm guessing Hory will be on him since Rasheed can knock down the 3. The good thing is he'll be on Horry at the other end of the court.
    Rasheed will not be guarding Horry. Horry's not really much of a threat and he will probably be guarded by tay. Rasheed will be guarding Tim for the most part.

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    They are going to clog the middle of the lane just like everyone tries to do against us and make us a jump shooting team. The counter to that is simple, one, make your jump shots or two, feed Duncan down low enough that they have to double team. If they double, then the swing passes, and slashing to the lane will be there. So basically if we play Spurs basketball, we'll be alright.

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    On offense, the Spurs need to push the ball. In the half-court, the Spurs need to hit perimeter shots to open up the lane.

    On defense, Bowen needs to limit Rip, and the Spurs need to limit offensive boards.

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