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    At this point, he IS what he is. At 31, his game and playing style, which relies on his athleticism, is starting to decline. Still he could be of help to another team that could feature him as a number 2 scorer. THat will not happen with the Spurs. It was a nice gamble by the FO, but RJ has been a bad fit from the beginning and that was even more evident this past season.

    Time to move on.

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    In the last series RJ either didn't want any part of driving the ball in amongst the trees in Memphis he would've dunked on several years ago (as evidenced by him giving the ball to Dice near the 3-point line early in Game 5 when he himself had an iso opportunity against one of the Memphis wings.....Dice bailed him out, ironically, by driving his battered by to the baseline a drawing a foul, which is what was brought in to do) or he'd go to the rim with some weak nonsense, anticipating getting a foul call because of Memphis' physical rep/style of play and throwing the ball at the rim for a brick that cost the Spurs a possession.

    He's got to go, or sit the on the bench and make a lot of money. Like the Gatorade commercials always asked, "Is it in you" and clearly as the series wore on the pressure mounted RJ showed in his case that it certainly wasn't. I'd rather have Childress (PHX) or Outlaw at this point working alongside the youngsters SA has coming down the pipeline.

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    You can post images. Great in accomplishment . Now get the outta my thread.

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    RJ severely disappointed me, along with pretty much all the Spurs fans with his performance in the playoffs. I still believe that he could be a factor for the Spurs though.

    My thought is that maybe Pop should work with him again this summer to get him to learn how to drive the ball while remaining in control when there is some contact initiated. RJ doesn't look like he has a weak physique, yet on his drives he seems to consistently be knocked off his course when he drives the ball.

    I say this because his shooting was light years ahead of where it was his first season as a Spur. Do you all think that more 1 on 1 sessions with Pop is in order, or would you rather him work with others? It is unlikely that anyone will take on RJ's contract, and so it would be nice to be able to make some lemonade.

    What would you all propose he work on? (Serious answers only please, thanks!)



    EDIT: This thread is based on the scenario where RJ is unable to be moved and remains a Spur next season. Respond accordingly please.
    No coaches with any teams will be working with any players this summer. There's going to be a lockout, and no b-ball until 2012.

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    RJ played really well in the beginning of the season. Shooting well, attacking the rim. By the middle/end of the season, he was the same lazy lame ass he was last season. He has confidence problems.
    The problem is not his body. He is not as athletic as he was when he played for the Nets, but he is still athletic enough to defend and attack well. The problem is the fact that he is a mental midget.

    In the big and tough times, he disappears. He is not a guy that we can trust to make a big bucket when it matters. RJ does not want to win. He does not care. All he wants and cares is his pay-check.

    We need players with mental toughness. Hard-nosed players committed to win.

    We have to trade him. And to be honest, I dont care if we have to give a young asset to dump his ass. He is a bad fit with a contract and our FO and Pop know it.

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    RJ was always a slasher, idk what the happened that made that part of his game completely dissapear here in SA. Look up tables of players with most FTAs per game from 5-8 yrs ago...RJ was alway near the top during his NJ days. Some of it had to do with playing alongside Kidd and their fastbreak style but he was also relentless at attacking the rim. The RJ vs. Dallas from two seasons ago were I think the entire Big 3 were injured was the RJ we were all expecting... turned into a pussy ass shooter after that though and seems content being just that. Get him the out of here.

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    People hailed RJ's new contract as a salary cap victory. We'll have to see what kind of garbage they have to take on in order to move Jefferson and get something useful to the team to replace him before making the final determination.

    It's a shame the Spurs already pissed away Scola's contract. That would have been a perfect end to the RJ saga.

    I look at the roster and the only thing I can see is throwing Gary Neal and his rock-bottom salary into a Jefferson deal. And I'm not sure even that would be enough to get someone to take the RJ albatross from their neck. Maybe Neal and a first round pick? And there's still the problem of what someone would match it with. Is there another player like Spanoulis who wants to go back home?

    Of course there's Bogans starting all year for Chicago. What's really going to piss me off is they have a fire sale to get rid of RJ, and he goes somewhere else and has a career season.
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    What Pop should be working on is his goodbye speech...his clothes packing and his flight arrangements.


    If not...Spurs are doomed to mediocrity...or I should say...continued mediocrity.
    How are nominations for stupidest post of the year tallied? Better yet, stupidest poster of the year.

    Just wait and see what happens to this organization when Pop leaves. Then go throatchoke yourself with your dildo.

    Moron.

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    How are nominations for stupidest post of the year tallied? Better yet, stupidest poster of the year.

    Just wait and see what happens to this organization when Pop leaves. Then go throatchoke yourself with your dildo.

    Moron.
    4 YEARS IN A ROW DUMB .


    With all the talent that the spurs had this past season...a younger coach would have taken them at least to the finals.

    Go suck on Pop & Bonners baby cox you in' idiot.

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    4 YEARS IN A ROW DUMB .


    With all the talent that the spurs had this past season...a younger coach would have taken them at least to the finals.

    Go suck on Pop & Bonners baby cox you in' idiot.
    Four chips under Pop, three of them with one superstar and a bunch of pieces, which were magically put in place by a basketball genius

    The only NBA dynasty that is a small market team

    61 wins with a team most predicted wouldn't make the playoffs

    Where is all this "talent that the spurs had this past season" that you speak of? An aging core and a bunch young kids and role players, which captured the 1 seed in the West only to see their difference maker go down in the last game of the season.

    You are a jackass. You are a bandwagoner. You are a hater. You are knowledge-less, and you are a disgrace to actual Spurs fans.

    Yet here you are, with your single-issue-posts which aren't funny and which nobody agrees with, telling Pop to pack his bags and retire. Go look at your shower rod and make good use of it.

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    Why does every vet we bring in revert to some jump shooting 3 point got? Can't we bring in a scorer to actually score without shooting the ball 99% of the time?

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    Why does every vet we bring in revert to some jump shooting 3 point got? Can't we bring in a scorer to actually score without shooting the ball 99% of the time?
    Agree 100%.

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    You can post images. Great in accomplishment . Now get the outta my thread.
    The truth must hurt huh?

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    The truth must hurt huh?
    This thread is claimed as facepalm worthy according to you, yet you show your dumbass self in here again?

    Learn a little bit more about your own interests before you post a facepalm dip . You obviously ARE interested in the topic since you didn't take my advice and leave the thread alone. Tell you what... why don't you give yourself a nice refreshing facepalm for being completely ignorant to you own damn interests .

    Now that that is settled.....




    GET THE OUTTA MY THREAD!!!

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    jefferson is the worst fit on the spurs. the spurs system calls for its wing players to be spot up 3 pt shooters. this completely wastes jefferson's talents. he needs to be shipped out on the next plane as soon as possible. i still can't believe the spurs handed him a long term contract despite the disastrous first year he had.

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    Finding a taker for his contract would be hard any other year, but the CBA renegotiation makes any move unlikely. We may be able to talk about a move around December, but I doubt there will be anything exciting before then.

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    Why does every vet we bring in revert to some jump shooting 3 point got? Can't we bring in a scorer to actually score without shooting the ball 99% of the time?
    We had some guy named Hair- something.. can't remember his name exactly. He was pretty good at scoring without having to shoot 3's.

    Anyone know who I'm talking about? Pop didn't like him I guess..

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    We had some guy named Hair- something.. can't remember his name exactly. He was pretty good at scoring without having to shoot 3's.

    Anyone know who I'm talking about? Pop didn't like him I guess..

    Malik Hairston and his 2.4ppg? You've gone off the deep end.

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    The only thing Pop should work on RJ with is finding him a new team. Serious ing answer, tbh.
    Yep...

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    If a dog does'nt have any fight in him as a pup, he will never have any fight in him. Maybe we can never get rid of his contract, but Pop sure doesn't have to start him or play him big minutes. Can't believe he sucks ass.

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    I don't give this guy another chance. He is in the prime of his career... he has playoff experience - been to the finals - worked out with Pop a whole off season. If he doesnt have balls by now, he aint going to have them.

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    Malik Hairston and his 2.4ppg? You've gone off the deep end.
    Of course, Pop didn't play him. Kinda hard to score more then that when your playing less than 10 minutes a game and garbage minutes at that.

    Hairston could have been a solid role player at the very least and with some experience and maybe more than that. We'll never know now.

    4>0rings was lamenting the fact that the team hasn't had any guys who score around the basket, well Hairston could. He had a good first step and could really get to the rack. As well as being an excellent cutter (something Jefferson used to be good at, but no longer).

    Now go back to your miserable popsucking life.

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    This thread is claimed as facepalm worthy according to you, yet you show your dumbass self in here again?

    Learn a little bit more about your own interests before you post a facepalm dip . You obviously ARE interested in the topic since you didn't take my advice and leave the thread alone. Tell you what... why don't you give yourself a nice refreshing facepalm for being completely ignorant to you own damn interests .

    Now that that is settled.....




    GET THE OUTTA MY THREAD!!!

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    Of course, Pop didn't play him. Kinda hard to score more then that when your playing less than 10 minutes a game and garbage minutes at that.

    Hairston could have been a solid role player at the very least and with some experience and maybe more than that. We'll never know now.

    4>0rings was lamenting the fact that the team hasn't had any guys who score around the basket, well Hairston could. He had a good first step and could really get to the rack. As well as being an excellent cutter (something Jefferson used to be good at, but no longer).
    TJ is right about this. Hairston wasn't going to be a star. But he would have been used this season when Anderson went down. If we would have given the man more consistent minutes he would have turned into a decent rotation backcourt member off the bench.

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    If ing Rashard Lewis can be moved. can be moved.


    If this is the only thing that really happens this summer, it will be a success. on this team brings it down.

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