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Who's to say she won't 'get better' after seeing him blinded? People claim all the time in America to feel closure after someone is put to death.
I admit it's barbaric, but in my opinion it is only just. I believe people who are of such low quality as the guy I described deserve not only to die, but very painfully and slowly. Bullet to the head or lethal injection is too easy. That's just me. Bring on some medieval , some Abu Ghraib , deter some crime, no letting pieces of off too easy.
I'd love to see some of this brought back:
Who's to say she won't 'get better' after seeing him blinded? People claim all the time in America to feel closure after someone is put to death.
Your assumption is also not entirely true, you can retaliate while also finding new meaning in life. If I imagine myself in the woman's situation, I could very easily have the same done to the guy while also learning to appreciate new things. I wouldn't look back and say, "Well, I did the same to him and now that means I have to kill myself because my life has no value to me even at this state." Valuing my life under the conditions after the incident could happen totally regardless of whether retaliation is carried out in my opinion. Maybe not for you, but I'd say so for many people.
Exactly.
I'd want to roast his ass for days. him.
you can still live life w/ meaning, sure, but retaliating the way she is doesn't contribute to it at all. in the end, it accomplishes nothing.
So what if that exact act isn't one of the things that contributes to it at all, what exactly is your point? Other things will/can, so that's irrelevant. You're wrong (in the case of majority of people, those who like to see justice): It doesn't accomplish nothing, it brings some satisfaction to the original victim knowing that person you hate is receiving the same. Not for you clearly, but probably for a large amount of the population, probably majority. You're seeing it in this thread, that it would in fact add pleasure to the decision maker. Why else is she choosing to do it 4 (or w/e it was) years later, despite the urging from groups and also receiving death threats if she retaliates? Because she sees that option more favorably, there is additional satisfaction to be had by doing so.
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Well the lawmakers of this country agree with me. I'd rather have them on my side than a buncha Spurs talk clowns.
So what exactly do you offer as a deterent to the next sick *&^%$ who wants to acid out a womens eyes because she rejects his advances?Well the lawmakers of this country agree with me. I'd rather have them on my side than a buncha Spurs talk clowns.
Last time I checked, the death penalty is active in most states.Well the lawmakers of this country agree with me. I'd rather have them on my side than a buncha Spurs talk clowns.
whatever guys. obviously you can have debates about this all day, but i think getting satisfaction from pouring acid into a guys eyes is pretty disgusting. if that's the sort of thing that would help you out in recovering from something this lady went through then, hey, what can i say. but it wouldn't for me. putting this guy in prison forever is just punishment imo.
Eye for eye, eh? So, what about victimless crimes? How do you punish non-violent drug offenders? Would the judge have to take a couple of bong hits and watch Aqua Teen Hunger Force and eat Hot Pockets?
Ah. The deterrent argument. Like all the people here who have stopped murdering because of the death penalty.
Well that isn't saying much imoWell the lawmakers of this country agree with me. I'd rather have them on my side than a buncha Spurs talk clowns.
Well sure, but no court system in the west would give him a life sentence in prison for this, and besides, prison is an extremely large expense for the government, just paying for complete pieces of to live out their lives. If you haven't already, just do a quick google search on how much it costs the government annually per lifer.
Anyway, my argument was pertaining more to the guy I described earlier who raped and murdered a 9 year old girl, with not legitimate excuse like being mentally ill or some kind of twisted brain disease. Life in prison, even not including the very high costs to pay for it, is still too lenient for that guy. He gets to eat, breathe, socialize, think, read, whatever...he get's to live, however limited it is, and I don't think he deserves that.
Maybe if it were something completely gruesome, barbaric, and vile to the point where it hurts to watch, it could do something. But I'm not even saying it would necessarily deter significantly, I truly believe it's what people deserve if they did something equally sickening like raping and murdering a helpless 9 year old girl. They take another's one shot at life for no justifiable reason in appalling manner, I believe they deserve the same done to him. I don't necessarily believe eye for an eye is good for all crimes, but definitely for the extremely horrific.
Is that a big problem in the states?
Ah, like the death penalty is carried out anywhere in the U.S.
Texas executes more people than China
The ones who have been put to death sure haven't murdered anybody lately.
thats debatable
The death penalty isn't a deterrent. It's a penalty for the guilty.
China is completely honest about how many it executes.
However, it very well could be if this were implemented:
http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-ty...ure/litgoddessTop 10 Types of Medieval Torture
1. The Judas Cradle
The Judas Cradle, a medieval torture where the victim would be placed on top of a pyramid-like seat. The victim's feet were tied to each other in a way that moving one leg would force the other to move as well - increasing pain.
The triangular-shaped end of the Judas cradle was inserted in the victim's anus or vagina. This torture could last anywhere from a few hours to complete days.
While loss of blood really wasn't a risk, victims died of infection, since the device was never cleaned. Bacteria, blood, pus, discharge...
Well, you get the point.
2. Flaying
Flaying is a very old torture method that was used thousands of years ago in the Middle East, Africa and even America. During the Middle Ages, it was frequently used to torture and execute criminals, captured soldiers and witches.
In one version of the Flaying Torture, the victim's arms were tied to a pole above his head while his feet were tied below. His body was now completely exposed and the torturer, with the help of a small knife, peeled off the victim's skin slowly.
In most cases, the torturer peeled off his facial skin first, slowly working his way down to the victim's feet. Most victims died before the torturer even reached their waist.
In another version, the victim was submerged into boiling water and was taken out after a few minutes. He was slowly flayed.
"Hey, Bobby Flay, what's on todays menu?"
"We're having a y bit of humanus epidermus. Would you like white meat or dark?"
3. The Pear of Anguish
The Pear of Anguish was used during the Middle Ages as a way to torture women who conducted a miscarriage, liars, blasphemers and sexuals.
A pear-shaped instrument was inserted into one of the victim's orifices: the vagina for women, the anus for sexuals and the mouth for liars and blasphemers.
The instrument consisted of four leaves that slowly separated from each other as the torturer turned the screw at the top. It was the torturer's decision to simply tear the skin or expand the "pear" to its maximum and mutilate the victim.
The Pear of Anguish was usually very adorned to differentiate between the anal, vaginal and oral pears. They also varied in size accordingly.
Constipation: SOLVED
4. The Spanish Donkey
The Spanish Donkey gave victims an unimaginably horrible ride.
Victims are put astride, naked, the apparatus, which is actually a vertical wood board with a sharp V-shape wedge on top. Varying weights are then attached to their feet.
Eventually, the victim's own weight and the extra baggage cause the wedge to slice through their bodies, splitting them in half.
If you ask me, this one is kind of half-assed.
5. The Crocodile Tube
The victim was fixed inside a tube just big enough for the victim's entrance. The tube, having crocodile teeth-like es, was slowly compressed leaving the victim totally immobilized. The torturer could only see his face and feet.
With the help of carbon and fire underneath the tube, the torturer gradually heated the tube until he extracted a confession or killed the victim.
With the face and feet exposed, the torturer was able to inflict painful wounds on the victim. Facial mutilation and toe ripping were preferred choices.
Other methods included forcing the victim to crouch inside the ring, thereby compressing the lungs and causing the intestines to burst.
6. The Heretics Fork
The heretics fork was used in the Middles Ages mainly during the Spanish Inquisition.
The instrument consists of two forks set against each other that penetrated the flesh under the chin in one end and the upper chest in the other.
The Heretics Fork made speech and neck movement almost impossible and was used after a confession to avoid hearing the victim any further.
"That'll teach you to not finish all your food!"
7. Impaling
The most common way of impalement was through the anus - but variations existed. Vlad, the er, Impaler, impaled people from the chest, legs, arms and; surprisingly, from the skull.
In rare cases, the stick would go perfectly from the anus to the mouth - in other cases the stick would stay stuck with a bone - it would go out through the chest or, more commonly, through the neck.
8. The Breast Ripper
Used as a way to punish women, the breast ripper was a painful and cruel way to mutilate a woman's breasts.
The claws were used either hot or cold on the victim's exposed breasts. If the victim wasn't killed she would be scarred for life as her breasts were literally torn apart.
A common variant of the breast ripper is often referred to as "The Spider" which is a similar instrument attached to a wall. The victim's breasts were fixed to the claws and the woman was pulled by the torturer away from the wall; successfully removing both breasts.
Please excuse me for a moment - the "girls" and I need some quality time.
9. The Iron Maiden
The Iron Maiden, otherwise known as the Virgin of Nuremberg, was a device used from the XVI century to torture criminals.
It stands 7 feet tall and can accommodate a large man. The victim was tied inside the Maiden and one of the two doors was shut, penetrating the victim's flesh with the strategically-placed es that didn't penetrate any vital organs.
When completely closed, the screams from the victim could not be heard outside, nor could the victim see any light or hear anything.
Additionally, the es blocked the wounds so it took many hours - or even days - for death to occur.
10. The Brazen Bull
The brazen bull is hard-boiled device first invented in Ancient Greece.
When a victim is placed inside the brazen bull, he or she is slowly burned to death. This device gradually became more sophisticated until the Greeks invented a complex system of tubes in order to make the victim's screams sound like an infuriated ox.
Even though this torture was not used as frequently during the Middle Ages as it was used earlier by the Greek and Romans, it was still used in Central Europe. This torture is similar to being boiled alive.
Some bulls were equipped with a removable back end, thereby making is possible to remove the entree through the Angus anus. And that ain't bull , either.
The Iron Maiden FTW!
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