Lol Brown basically ran an offense that would give LeBron 50+ one-on-one isolation plays at the top of the key. Take the handcuffs off Kobe, and even in his old age, his stubborn ass is going to feel free to chuck up 30 shots a game. Even if the triangle had run its course, Lakers need a guy who has some kind of structured offense.
Bad signing. I won't go so far as saying it's a horrible signing. But it's bad.
pau, Drew and the Kobester say hi
the last thing I wanna see is Mike Brown and him damn near smiling every time he talks ..... what the is wrong with his mouth???
All of this, well said Acme. Anyone (even Kobe) not admitting a "decline" is delusional. But those that act as if he fell off a cliff, especially offensively, are crazy as well. He is no longer a sure-fire top 1-5 player. But he is definitely still in the top 10. Will he need help to win? Of course he does.
As for Brown, not a huge fan, despite what he brings defensively. Maybe that Mo williams post dunk press conference, and watching Lebron play iso at the top of the key every playoffs, have poisoned me towards Brown. People say hey he led a team of Lebron and some stiffs to the Finals, I counter when you have a potential GOAT in a weak eastern conference, he SHOULD be able to do that. His career win% is impressive, but again Lebron deserves more credit for that as well.
I guess It's tough for me to bite my tongue and accept 2nd class NBA status, even when it comes to coaching candidates. Riley and Phil have been the coaches for the majority of my years as a Laker fan ... but Buss has carried the highest team payroll and paid for the best coach money could buy. I get why he is looking to save $ here, especially facing a lockout.
I just hope any savings he makes on the bench staff, he finds a way to add to the roster in the backcourt and bench.
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If they were going to go after a Brown, they should have just gone after Larry Brown for the last few years of Kobe's career.
lol I also hope this is true, bean vs brown, this should be good
no way Brown wins a battle of wills with Kobe ...
Kobe's a borderline Top 10 player next year, he's still elite but he can no longer be the best offensive option on a championship team.
well put Killa. I am not dancing a jig because the Buss family decided to go with MB (speaking of which, is it confirmed yet?) but it is what it is. The milk is spilled. lets see what happens.
The Lakers have been blessed with arguably probably the 2 best coaches ever and to see us go with a 2nd tier coach is bothersome but hey, you just never know. Maybe MB flourishes with this group and goes no holds bar.
here's hoping for the best. I am confident still.
I was hoping this thread was about Shannon brown... ... o 2005.
Jim Bust in action?
I just can not understand the decision to hire him... What does this guy even do that's a positive??
Well, he's a players coach. Expect Mike Brown to make Kobe Bryant happy in terms of offensive freedom.
Based on what?
His production this season was right in line with the previous two seasons when the Lakers won championships.
The playoff productions shows a drop-off in Kobe's stats, albeit in fewer minutes played, but if you want to look at a more relevant issue, it's Pau's production in the playoffs.
Kobe isn't the same Kobe anymore, but with the talent around him, he can still be the go-to guy on a championship level team if the supporting cast does their part.
He was right with Bynum and it cost the tired old bag Duncan two rings.
tee, hee.
1. Doesn't demand $12 million a year
2. Doesn't stick a pork loin in the owner's daughter every night
Kobe's PER, TS and FG% are at its lowest since 05-06.
Father time?
Players better than Kobe this year and possibly next year
Lebron
Durant
Wade
Dwight
CP3
Rose
Dirk
Melo
Other younger players that will improve and is climbing up that ladder
LMA
ZbO
Amare
Deron Williams
Westbrook
Kobe can still get the job done, but I just dont think he can do it consistently in the regular season and in the playoffs anymore. 15 seasons, and having logged the most minutes by any active NBA player has taken its toll.
His "playoff" PER, TS and FG% in a 10 game stretch. Look at his regular season stats and they are right in line with the previous two seasons. I'm not saying Kobe is exactly as good as the previous two seasons, but his playoff production was definitely related to how the team played as a whole. Take the bigger sample size as a better reflection of what he is capable of, not the 10 game sample.
He's absolutely declined. But he's still good enough to be the go-to guy on a championship level team when his team has other good pieces and they play well. He can't go for 40 and will his team to win every night. But he's good enough to lead a team when the he gets help. That's the point of putting a championship caliber supporting cast around a great player. For example, LeBron James' playoff PER, TS, and FG% are noticeably down from the previous two seasons. Don't think having a better cast around him helps so he doesn't have to put the entire team on his back every single playoff game?
The whole playoff "PER, TS, FG% are down" argument was disengenuous otherwise it would apply to LeBron as well.
Don't necessarily disagree with those players being better than Kobe, with the possible exceptions of Dwight and Melo. Dwight is more impactful because but we've seen his weaknesses in terms of being the best player on a team and leading that team far. I would have more disagreements about the second list of players. Good players but none of them have done to warrant the notion that they'll surpass Kobe even at Kobe's age. Zbo isn't that young, btw. But I'd rather not get into a debate about that.Players better than Kobe this year and possibly next year
Lebron
Durant
Wade
Dwight
CP3
Rose
Dirk
Melo
Other younger players that will improve and is climbing up that ladder
LMA
ZbO
Amare
Deron Williams
Westbrook
Kobe can still get the job done, but I just dont think he can do it consistently in the regular season and in the playoffs anymore. 15 seasons, and having logged the most minutes by any active NBA player has taken its toll.
I know Kobe can't carry a team to a championship by himself, like Jordan or Hakeem was able to do in their le runs. But with the cast he has, he can be the go-to guy and closer when the supporting cast plays well enough.
Why does Kobe become the topic of debate in almost every thread?
this was about Brown, not Kobe. I know CR is feeling good right now as well he should, but no way all those guys are all better than Kobe. So let's close that subject here and lets focus back on the topic at hand Brown's coaching a en or lack there of ...
Kobe: 5
tired old bag Duncan: 4
that's why.
They need to get this signing done soon. You want to have as much time as possible to learn that complicated offense he is going to install.
Mike Brown is going to be there for defense. I hope Shaw runs the offense
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